Jerry Jones open to trading 2016 first-rounder

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AD's no sure thing either.

It's not like he's 25 and coming off of a 1,500 yard season.

Athletic freak. Chip on his shoulder. Motivated. Best RB in the league. Made a horrible Minny team pretty decent singlehandedly. A whole year of rest on those tires, so it's like he's 29.

Even if he's lost a step speed-wise, he is still as fast as any RB on our roster, and he's stronger, has better instincts and is just more talented. Even at 30.

AD is as much a sure thing as there is in the league.
 

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AD's no sure thing either.

It's not like he's 25 and coming off of a 1,500 yard season.

He is as close to a sure thing as there is. Mcfadden is extremely injury prone so we can't count on him and how are we going to keep Randle from stealing underwear and staying out of trouble?
 

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Athletic freak. Chip on his shoulder. Motivated. Best RB in the league. Made a horrible Minny team pretty decent singlehandedly. A whole year of rest on those tires, so it's like he's 29.

Even if he's lost a step speed-wise, he is still as fast as any RB on our roster, and he's stronger, has better instincts and is just more talented. Even at 30.

AD is as much a sure thing as there is in the league.

There's so much conjecture in this post.... so much.
 

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He is as close to a sure thing as there is. Mcfadden is extremely injury prone so we can't count on him and how are we going to keep Randle from stealing underwear and staying out of trouble?

I've never pimped McFadden as being the solution.

The fact is I'm not sure who the solution is– yet.

But I'm sure it will sort itself out.
 

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I've never pimped McFadden as being the solution.

The fact is I'm not sure who the solution is– yet.

But I'm sure it will sort itself out.

Don't you think that is a problem for a team that had arguably the best running game in the whole NFL? I hope the situation works itself out by us signing AP. Jerry wants him, will just be up to Minny if they are willing to deal him reasonably. A first and Claiborne sounds fair.
 

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Don't you think that is a problem for a team that had arguably the best running game in the whole NFL? I hope the situation works itself out by us signing AP. Jerry wants him, will just be up to Minny if they are willing to deal him reasonably. A first and Claiborne sounds fair.

We'll see how it turns out.
 

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Don't you think that is a problem for a team that had arguably the best running game in the whole NFL? I hope the situation works itself out by us signing AP. Jerry wants him, will just be up to Minny if they are willing to deal him reasonably. A first and Claiborne sounds fair.

How about Leary, Claiborne, a backup LB and a 3rd round pick.
 
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Obviously the offensive line is incredibly important. That's a given.

But anyone else remember what our running game looked like with that amazing 90's offensive line when Emmitt was out? Not very good. When our biggest strength, the running game, got hampered by our stud RB being out, we lost. Period.

I absolutely could not agree more with this point! Being a life long Cowboys Fan I can say I never had a better time as a Fan than the 90's dynasty we put on the field! That Offensive Line was incredible & I can honestly say as good of a line as we had last year I don't think it was as good as the 90's Cowboys! However, I do think we have the chance to field not only "as good as" but potentially the best O-Line ever! Weather they are almost as good as the 90's O-Line, "As Good As" or "Better Than" it was clear, back in the 90's, that the one time Emmitt Smith held out over contract issues, those first two games we went 0-2, when he was out due to injury, (Which didn't happen very much at all, remember his Superman status playing basically one armed-LOL, Loved That) we won the game he stayed in while he was hurt, but when he was out due to injury we lost. When he was out it was like teams were like sharks in the water, they smelled blood, we became predictable, or at least predictable enough, to get beat! I'm sorry but forgive me for being more than uneasy about our current RB roster! IMO, I don't think we have a running back we can legitimately put half-ish of the snaps on, commanding an extra man or two in the box.
Also, If we are actually considering a "RBBC" then essentially we are betting teams will respect our run game with a patchwork set of backs that have both significant downsides & upsides, that is upsides, if they stay healthy, which each have a history of not staying healthy. As a Cowboy's Fan I recognize that we are about to field a special team this year, potentially the next 3-5 seasons, I don't want to see games being decided with a lucky escape by Romo, who completes a pass to Williams, that was intended for Witten, with a tippy toe grab, on the sidelines! Keep in mind, that was with Murray, our workhorse back! I'm not cynical to believe that we will never have a game that calks for some heroics, I'm just saying it would be nice to not need as many as we had last season. So put me down on the side of the fence where I believe we are truly just a "Potentially Special Running Back" away from the best chance at winning a Super Bowl, both next season & potentially the next 3 to 5 (Depending on Romo's health & longevity) something I think AP would bring in. He or (Another Proven Workhorse Back) could extend both Romo's & his careers. I also think that a number 1 pick next season, in the grand scheme, would not stop us from getting a brand new shiny RB to be drafted as well as Romo's replacement! Let's face it, the toughest position to draft is the next QB, it can happen anywhere in the draft & more often than not they don't pan out! I think bringing AP in here extends the time we need to both replace & to groom. The possible upside is far greater than whatever contract rework AP would cost us going forward. Lastly, I wouldn't be against trading or signing a different player after cuts (Proven Workhorse Type RB) but again I'd feel a whole lot better if we had a RB, ready to be the primary option, that the whole NFL knows is your primary running back, that's a proven one who is used to getting 85%-90% of the teams carries over the course of a season & is also productive at it! When I look at our current roster, I'm sorry but I just don't see that.
 

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Before 2014 he was considered a very good RB. You are wrong about that. Nobody said we needed the best RB but we damn sure need a very good one. Romo is not Brady.

you are right. romo is not brady....romo does not cheat! besides, what do you care...you have stated that romo will never win a SB. smh
 
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Is a 32nd pick in the draft a mortgage of the future when it wins you a super bowl?

This right here is why trading next year's #1 makes sense for AD. Let's just be negative & say we either don't win with him & end up in the same situation as last year without a first round pick or we don't trade our 1st for him & end up missing the playoffs, that probably means our offensive line gets us somewhere between a 29th or 30th at worst or a 24th or 25th at best. Obviously, nothing is guaranteed but if using a first round draft pick next year to bring AD here ends up bringing us a Super Bowl then it stands to reason that the rest of both Romo's & AD's careers 3-5 seasons will either win us Superbowls or be deep playoff runs! That in itself will have us picking in the 30's for the next "X #" of seasons. If you are just looking at it like this, either we trade & get him & don't make it to the Super Bowl & thus not have a first round pick, is that worse than burning another year of Romo's career & find ourselves picking at 27 again next year, all because the RBBC thing just didn't work? Nothing's guaranteed either way but in any version of this I surely do not think our first round next year is mortgaging our future. In fact I think I saw a post saying something like "Leary, Claiborne & our 5th round pick" to me "Claiborne & our 5th" would be fine, as it stands right now, we have 4 compensatory picks, a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th & a 6th-Since we traded our 6th (Not the compensatory 6th) for that TE in the 7th this past draft we have a total of (10 picks) in next year's draft! So, I could see a player packaged with our 5th round pick for AD, it doesn't necessarily have to be our first round pick. I'm just saying if Minny wants our first next year & won't budge, I wouldn't be opposed to giving it for AD.
 
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What if I took Leary out and put in a backup DL ?

I agree on defiantly keeping Leary! I think anything on our O-Line is not for sale. If for no other reason we need the depth. I'm all for shipping "Claiborne" so let's say the hold up is Minny asking for to many draft picks, if Jerry is trying to pedal players the most extreme, & yes this will sound kinda nutty, "Claiborne, a backup LB, 1 of the 3 FB's we signed & our 1st round pick in next year's draft"
Yep that's a lot but if Minny was asking for say two drafts worth of First's & Second's & a Third (5 Picks Total) then the only "Starter-ish we can part with is Claiborne, with the resigning of McClain we have some LB's who will be cut anyway as well as at least one FB, so we throw in next year's 1st" either that or give them one of our RB's that's about as crazy as I'd go again that's "IF" Minny is asking something crazy like that & yes, (Two 1st's, Two 2nd's & a 3rd) is CRAZY-TOWN but I wouldn't put it past Minnesota! LOL
 

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Obviously the offensive line is incredibly important. That's a given.

But anyone else remember what our running game looked like with that amazing 90's offensive line when Emmitt was out? Not very good. When our biggest strength, the running game, got hampered by our stud RB being out, we lost. Period.

Well said, In the 70's we had Calvin Hill and Duane Thomas, Tony Dorsett, in the 80's we da Dorsett and Hershel Walker , In the 90's Emmitt Smith. Each of these RB's were great players, we have no great RB now. Dallas has never won a Super Bowl without a great RB. I leave it up to the board to figure this out.
 
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Well said, In the 70's we had Calvin Hill and Duane Thomas, Tony Dorsett, in the 80's we da Dorsett and Hershel Walker , In the 90's Emmitt Smith. Each of these RB's were great players, we have no great RB now. Dallas has never won a Super Bowl without a great RB. I leave it up to the board to figure this out.

Here, here! I realize there are teams who have done it, but our Cowboy's Super Bowl teams always had General type QB's making sure the team was guided right & could throw, an athletic WR able to stretch the field, one of the top O-Lines in the League & a RB who at the very least kept teams honest so all the other parts could come together & he always was a mainstay or good enough to be "Named" as a big part of the reason we won those Super Bowls.
 

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Here, here! I realize there are teams who have done it, but our Cowboy's Super Bowl teams always had General type QB's making sure the team was guided right & could throw, an athletic WR able to stretch the field, one of the top O-Lines in the League & a RB who at the very least kept teams honest so all the other parts could come together & he always was a mainstay or good enough to be "Named" as a big part of the reason we won those Super Bowls.

These guys were great backs.
 
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These guys were great backs.

Dude, totally! Tony "TD" Dorsett, Hershel Walker, Emmitt Smith, plus I'm sure even those that are "Against" A.P. "Running AD here in Big D", are at least "possibly" secretly cool with it, especially behind this O-Line! You got to figure a "freak of nature" like AP even if he's lost like .03 or so off his 40 time has probably got more longevity than Romo, we all have to face it, the time is now! We need to go for it & see how many Super Bowls we can pack into the next few seasons!
 

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There's so much conjecture in this post.... so much.

It's all conjecture at this point. How Randle, McFadden, Williams and Dunbar do cannot be projected with any degree of certainty. At least AP would arguably have a history of HOF numbers to base an opinion on.
 
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