Jerry Jones says we can get away with lesser talent on OL

Alexander

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bbailey423;5008616 said:
Or...you can just take what he has said out of his own mouth. How many times have we HEARD him say....we will go as far as Romo will take us. Romo is good...but there is not a QB in the NFL that could win a Super Bowl with this OL. In fact, I have contened that some of the QBs many consider great would do WORSE than Romo with this OL.

That does not fly with me.

As prolific as Romo is, I believe he does try to do too much, his own QB coach agrees with this. To use his special skillset as a reason to justify not addressing a primary need no matter who the QB is has to be one of the more idiotic twists in logic that Jones has ever done.

It is one thing to have a franchise QB. You want to make sure you give him all he needs to succeed. What basically he is doing it making the team success being contingent on a player who has never shown he can elevate the team and take them on his shoulders. He tries to hoist them up and they slide off. He feels the pressure and that explains why he is so poor in games where it is win or go home. He is just not that great that he can do that. No shame in it either. It is just unfair that it continues to be expected of him.

This is just another way for Jones to get people off of his inefficiencies in building a winner. Having a mindset that we go only as far as Romo takes us is asinine because he just might not be that good. He is basically pushing the responsibility off onto Romo, just thinking one day, he gets over the hump. The smarter thing would be to get him the help he needs instead of crossing your fingers hoping he gets it done.
 

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speedkilz88;5008618 said:
How about the rest of the story Paul Harvey?

Ware - Pick #11, Parcells wanted Spears there and was overruled by Jerry.
Witten - 3rd round, Scouts wanted Witten in the 2nd and Parcells took Al Johnson instead - miracle and no brainer Witten was still there in 3rd.
Ratliff - Great pick, scouts had nothing to do with it I assume.
Romo - UDFA that Payton identified and sweet talked to Dallas for less money
McBriar - FA, Credit for a punter working out, not scouting either?
Austin - UDFA, I give credit to Parcells for stashing at bottom of roster for future
Newman - Pick #5, how can you miss? I believe Parcells actually wanted Dwayne Robertson (gone) or Kevin Williams. Newman turned out to not even be the best CB in that draft.
Barber - Was he really pro-bowl worthy? Wasn't a starter that season. Wasn't even over 1,000. Was playing a closer role that made him look better than he really was, should have stayed the closer.

Newman was not a miss he was very good for us for a while .
 

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Pessimist_cowboy;5008643 said:
Newman was not a miss he was very good for us for a while .
I didn't say he was a miss, I said it was pick 5 how could you miss?
 

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One of Parcells' biggest pet-peeves was with Romo's "gunslinger" mentality.
I hate what-ifs as much as the next guy, but I wonder how much Romo's mentality would've evolved for the better, if Parcells had stayed on and made him tone-down the Wyatt Earp persona?
As for JJ, its amazing how far some folks need to dig for excuses regarding the abject failure that is the Cowboys GM.
I live in NY, and there's not a Cowboys Hater alive who wants JJ gone. They all know that as long as he's there, this franchise will be average at best. 15 plus years is not an anomalie...it's just fact.
 

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speedkilz88;5008618 said:
How about the rest of the story Paul Harvey?

Ware - Pick #11, Parcells wanted Spears there and was overruled by Jerry.
Witten - 3rd round, Scouts wanted Witten in the 2nd and Parcells took Al Johnson instead - miracle and no brainer Witten was still there in 3rd.
Ratliff - Great pick, scouts had nothing to do with it I assume.
Romo - UDFA that Payton identified and sweet talked to Dallas for less money
McBriar - FA, Credit for a punter working out, not scouting either?
Austin - UDFA, I give credit to Parcells for stashing at bottom of roster for future
Newman - Pick #5, how can you miss? I believe Parcells actually wanted Dwayne Robertson (gone) or Kevin Williams. Newman turned out to not even be the best CB in that draft.
Barber - Was he really pro-bowl worthy? Wasn't a starter that season. Wasn't even over 1,000. Was playing a closer role that made him look better than he really was, should have stayed the closer.

That is an interesting take.

So, if Parcells wasn't instrumental in those Pro Bowls/All Pros, how come the team hasn't duplicated that success since he left?

I mean, Jerry and the scouts are still around (for the most part), right?

I agree there is more to it......coaching. I don't think those guys would have become the players they have become without their development under Parcells (and the staff he developed). Yet another area where Dallas isn't as strong as they were under Parcells.
 

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johnnyd;5007831 said:
ESPNDallas.com

Line improvements could come from within


INDIANAPOLIS – As a former offensive lineman, Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones knows the offensive line has to play better in 2013 for his team to win more games.

Where the improvement comes from is up for debate.

On Saturday Jones mentioned the possibility of getting better through free agency and the draft along the line but he was not ready to dismiss in-house improvement either.

“We do need to have improvement there, but I think we can get that offensive line with some of the stuff we’re going to do with our offense and coaching,” Jones said. “I think we can get that offensive line with a better report card here this time next year.”

Left tackle Tyron Smith is Jones’ only sure bet, but he liked what he saw at the end of the year from Doug Free and Jermey Parnell. Jones acknowledged the Cowboys “need more,” from free-agent pickups Nate Livings and Mackenzy Bernadeau in 2013, and he could see center Phil Costa as the starter “for several years.”

He also touted the futures of Kevin Kowalski and Ronald Leary.

http://www.espn.go.com/blog/dallas/...5963/line-improvements-could-come-from-within

Get that mess outta here! Nobody wants to read ACTUAL quotes! Are you trying to crash the Jerry hate-a-palooza or what?
 

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junk;5008702 said:
I agree there is more to it......coaching. I don't think those guys would have become the players they have become without their development under Parcells (and the staff he developed). Yet another area where Dallas isn't as strong as they were under Parcells.

Cue the crying that Bill Parcells only got .500 football etc.

Funny how it is a bitter disappointment and a failure for Parcells, yet under Garrett, it is a process that requires patience and we are on the right track.
 

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Alexander;5008852 said:
Cue the crying that Bill Parcells only got .500 football etc.

Funny how it is a bitter disappointment and a failure for Parcells, yet under Garrett, it is a process that requires patience and we are on the right track.

Parcells had four entire seasons. Garrett has had two. How do you seriously not recognize that distinction?
 

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The only way to actually change anything about this team is to hit Jerry in his wallet. Dont go to the stadium. Dont buy merchandise. Dont watch the games on sundays and watch the ratings sink. Thats the only answer.
 

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Alexander;5008852 said:
Cue the crying that Bill Parcells only got .500 football etc.

Funny how it is a bitter disappointment and a failure for Parcells, yet under Garrett, it is a process that requires patience and we are on the right track.

Wow. Congrats there on completely inverting the actual point of that argument. That's truly impressive.
 

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Wood;5007436 said:
Not even little bit surprised. You don't go 15 years in NFL as GM with virtually zero success by being good at your job.

That truth hurt a little...with this kind of success you would think he would try something different or listen to someone with a proven track record. :eek:

Everyone on the planet tells you that Dallas must draft OL. So you instead do anything/everything but that....:mad:
 

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That truth hurt a little...with this kind of success you would think he would try something different or listen to someone with a proven track record. :eek:

Everyone on the planet tells you that Dallas must draft OL. So you instead do anything/everything but that....:mad:

Personally, I'm in favor of waiting until the draft before complaining about the draft.
 

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TheRomoSexual;5008863 said:
Parcells had four entire seasons. Garrett has had two. How do you seriously not recognize that distinction?

In his first two years, Parcells had a playoff appearance and a division title with significantly less talent. How do you seriously not recognize that distinction?
 

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Alexander;5009029 said:
In his first two years, Parcells had a playoff appearance and a division title with significantly less talent. How do you seriously not recognize that distinction?

I think you overrate our talent. Overrate it a lot.
 

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yimyammer;5008298 said:
Yeah but look how big that fish is:

http://*************/a/img42/2888/fishky.jpg

Bigger than Candice's :busty:

Or Jessica, all of Romo's blondies look the same.
 

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Alexander;5008852 said:
Cue the crying that Bill Parcells only got .500 football etc.

Funny how it is a bitter disappointment and a failure for Parcells, yet under Garrett, it is a process that requires patience and we are on the right track.

Why must it be the extreme of one or the other?
 

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If this is indeed his intention, then the Cowboys are going to be 7-9 this year. Jerry does not have to worry about being 8-8. Romo WILL be injured and the Boys WILL be looking for a free agent QB to back up or play the rest of the season. No GM could be this stupid! Only Al Davis has come close to this thinking while wanting to extend the passing game. We will be up there where the Raiders were for years (no wheres). I guess some of the fans here were correct that Jerry is the second coming of Al Davis. :blind::banghead::yousuck:

I hope Jerry's son does better!:pray:

Disillusioned old Fan (there are not going to be any more Supper Bowls for the cowboys):tantrum:
 

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Hoofbite;5007547 said:
Which is probably why none of the people who do defend him are commenting.

I haven't been his biggest critic by any means but this is just insane. How can he even say this with a straight face?

If I am Romo and just heard this, I tell my agent my pricetag just went up a couple of million.


If my owner flat out admits he is going with a lessor oline because I am mobile and can run for my life every dam down, its is going to cost a couple more zeros on the contract for the beatings I am going to take.
 
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