Jerry Jones: Wade Phillips is one of the 'best talent evaluators'

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Chocolate Lab;3296727 said:
I wish we had Ken Whisenhunt, and he could bring in his old players...

"Great, looks like we're bringing in another FOKker..."


lol

Then we could milk that cat for all its worth!!!

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theebs;3296468 said:
but nope that would ruin the article. Oh well parcells is from jersey and wade is from texas....

Ding Ding Ding!!!

We have a winner! It's tiresome with all the Parcells hate.

If the man never coached here this would still be a team floundering about.

The foundation of this team are Romo, Witten, Bradie, Ratliff, Newman and Ware.

All Parcells Guys.
 

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dcfanatic;3296951 said:
Ding Ding Ding!!!

We have a winner! It's tiresome with all the Parcells hate.

If the man never coached here this would still be a team floundering about.

The foundation of this team are Romo, Witten, Bradie, Ratliff, Newman and Ware.

All Parcells Guys.

Because the Texas Media has been so good to Wade just giving him a free ride. :rolleyes:
 

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CowboyMike;3296583 said:

That little quote you made up about Wade's spit.

It's literally the stupidest thing on the internet.

:laugh1:

And we know your response will be...

"No, your blog and radio show are..."

Hack.
 

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Doomsday101;3296956 said:
Because the Texas Media has been so good to Wade just giving him a free ride. :rolleyes:

Who cares about the media.

I'm talking fans.

The media don't give no one a break.

And I get the hometown hero stuff about him being from Texas so people would like to see him succeed. That's cool with me.

But hating on Parcells because he isn't is just ignorant.
 

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Jerry Jones: Wade Phillips is one of 'best talent evaluators'

09:38 PM CST on Thursday, March 4, 2010
Column by GERRY FRALEY / The Dallas Morning News | gfraley@***BANNED-URL***
Gerry Fraley





From the Cowboys' perspective, the NFL's free-agency season lacked a vital element as it opened Thursday night.

There were few apparent "Wade guys."

A "Wade guy" has played for head coach Wade Phillips, understands what he expects and has earned his seal of approval. Every coach has his "guys," from relationships forged along the way.

Bill Parcells did during his four-season run as Cowboys coach. Parcells stocked the roster with so many of his "guys" that the locker room took on the feel of a diner on Route 22 in New Jersey.

How did that work out?

The Cowboys' free-agent signings during the Parcells era were noteworthy for their failures. The misses, ranging from running backs Richie Anderson and Anthony Thomas to offensive tackle Ryan Young to kicker Mike Vanderjagt, overwhelmed the few hits.

Therein lies the difference between a "Bill guy" and a "Wade guy" for the Cowboys. They have fared much better in free agency with the "Wade guys."

End Igor Olshansky and inside linebacker Keith Brooking brought in the pedigree last season and significantly improved the defense. The same held for strong safety Gerald Sensabaugh, who qualified because assistants Dave Campo and Joe DeCamillis recommended him.

Parcells was never that successful with free agents. That leads to the suggestion that despite all the hype fanned by Parcells' fawning admirers, Phillips is a better judge of talent.

Owner-general manager Jerry Jones hinted at that when he gave Phillips a contract extension.

"Wade Phillips is one of the best talent evaluators I've been around, period," Jones said. "It must have something to do with the fact he grew up [with football] around the kitchen table and has been doing this for 31 years. Wade knows what a pro football player looks like."

Phillips' father, Bum, was a successful collegiate and NFL coach with an emphasis on defense. The son learned defense from his father but is not pigeonholed as a defense-only coach. Wade Phillips served his NFL apprenticeship at a time when assistants looked at schools rather than specific positions when helping prepare for the draft.

That forced Phillips to learn how to evaluate offensive players, too. He will always remember the smallish wide receiver who caught his eye when evaluating Tulsa's talent before the 1976 draft for Houston. The Oilers took the kid in the fourth round but traded him during training camp to Seattle, where Steve Largent went on to a Hall of Fame career.

"I've always enjoyed the process," Phillips said of judging talent at the collegiate and NFL levels.

This free-agent class is almost barren of "Wade guys." Outside linebacker Shawne Merriman, a restricted free agent, is the most noteworthy name, but he does not fit with the Cowboys. Backup inside linebackers Tim Dobbins (restricted) and Chris Draft (unrestricted) and kicker Jay Feely (restricted) have the Phillips' bona fides.

Some others could show up on the Cowboys' radar. As Phillips showed last year, he values the input of his staff.

Tie-ins alone do not guarantee a job, Phillips said last season when discussing the impact of Brooking, Olshansky and Sensabaugh. Unlike Parcells, Phillips is reluctant to flood a team with well-connected players.

"A lot of guys bring a bunch of guys in from where they were, and they're not as good as the guys there in some cases," Phillips said. "I think you send the wrong message sometimes [by doing that]. Everybody earns their way. See how they do. Then if we need to replace people, we will."

If a "Wade guy" can fix the problem, all the better.


You don't build teams through free agency you build it through the draft. *** is this Route 22 diner ****? Whatever this article is dumb 3 years removed from Bill P and you still compare the two coaches there's no left to be said leave Bill P alone.....
 

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dcfanatic;3296960 said:
I'm talking fans.

I understand what you are saying DC ..... but I do not see where any fans (including me) have given Wade anything but grief.

He has not been treated anything near as well as Parcells was when he was here.

Now I admit that Parcells has been attacked by the fans since he left .... but I hear all the time how certain things would not be happening if Parcells was still here and I just do not think thats true.
 

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Parcells was much better at bringing people over to the Jets. I like Anderson though he was getting toward the end of his career.
 

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I actually liked Anderson. For a while, he was the only back to give us any spark.

Yeah, I don't get that either. He was a guy who could do a lot of different things and play special teams and work as a 3rd down back. Not many fullbacks can do that and it's not like we sent him a ton of money.

I don't think HC's usually have a ton of decision making in the draft outside of the first round in the NFL. I think it's more or less they get briefed on some talent, they check it out for themselves and more info is gathered by the scouts and unless the HC really, really, really wants the guy or does not want the guy, they more or less give their input and then the GM and Head Scout pull the trigger.

I think Wade has an eye for OLB's and NT's. I was a bit concerned about CB's and safeties under Wade since his history suggest it's not been one of the strongpoints of his defenses, but he got Jenkins and Scandrick (who I still like). Safeties is another thing.

All in all I think the Wade Phillips era has been far more good than bad, I just wish some people could see that. But when hacks like Mr. Hair Piece, Little Balls of Hack and Mr. I Read Lips constantly knock the guy for every little thing, that tends to persuade public perception.






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zrinkill;3296966 said:
I understand what you are saying DC ..... but I do not see where any fans (including me) have given Wade anything but grief.

He has not been treated anything near as well as Parcells was when he was here.

Now I admit that Parcells has been attacked by the fans since he left .... but I hear all the time how certain things would not be happening if Parcells was still here and I just do not think thats true.

It's about presence.

We are all people before we are fans, coaches, etc.

Bill Parcells commands respect with his presence. Wade doesn't have that.

If both men walked into a room with a bunch of people who had no clue who they were and both started handing out orders the people would gravitate to Parcells as the leader.

It's not a good or bad thing.

It just is what it is.
 

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dcfanatic;3296960 said:
The media don't give no one a break.

That's a crock. The media mostly stood up for Belichick when he blatantly cheated.

Most of the media will give McNabb a break no matter what he does.

Andy Reid has two sons that are drug addicts who have had some serious violations of the law, yet the media tends to ignore the fact that he should probably should have taken time off from coaching to get his kids back.

The Washington DC media may have to be held at gunpoint to say anything bad about Joe Gibbs as a coach, and he went 30-34 in his second turn around. What's even worse, is that they call it a SUCCESS for Gibbs while Parcells coming to Dallas was a FAILURE by reporters here. And they still knock Wade who has a far, far better record than either of them, even if Dallas goes 2-14 in 2010.

The media hates Dallas and uses every single chance they can get to make the Cowboys the punchline of every joke. It's the worst kept secret that if you're an NFL writer that 'when in doubt, write about the Cowboys' (Peter King has written that he was told this when he first came to SI) and according to Rick Reilly, the best bet is to be negative about the Cowboys because it draws more readers.

Sports Journalistic Integrity, an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

But hating on Parcells because he isn't is just ignorant.

I agree. I could care less if a coach is from Timbuktu. But it amazes me how the media loves to take shots at Wade. Parcells less so because I believe in small part he could really embarrass a reporter if they crossed him in a PC. I think Parcells would've downright thrashed Steve Dennis had he tried to pull that garbage on him. And what was funny was how many of the press didn't dare knock Parcells too harshly until after he retired.

For better or for worse, Wade doesn't have that in him and thus these reporters really go after him, often times in about as unprofessional in a manner as anybody will ever witness.






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I'd love to see another SB for myself before my times up but I'd love just as much to see Wade get a SB for himself.
 

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dcfanatic;3296981 said:
It's about presence.

We are all people before we are fans, coaches, etc.

Bill Parcells commands respect with his presence. Wade doesn't have that.

If both men walked into a room with a bunch of people who had no clue who they were and both started handing out orders the people would gravitate to Parcells as the leader.

It's not a good or bad thing.

It just is what it is.
plus Parcells came here with 2 championship rings and Wade came here without ever winning a playoff game. I mean it was just natural that Bill got more respect than Wade as he should've.
 

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Rampage;3296988 said:
plus Parcells came here with 2 championship rings and Wade came here without ever winning a playoff game. I mean it was just natural that Bill got more respect than Wade as he should've.

I think most of us understand that.

I think the problem is when reporters get downright unprofessional with name calling in particular. I swear, I've probably read more different sports newspapers in this country than the majority of posters here and I've never seen it as bad with any other professional sports team than I have with the Cowboys. In other places if it happens it's so rare and other reporters will often frown on it. But here it's almost encouraged.

The Steve Dennis situation this year was ridiculous.

It has nothing to do with 'presence', it has to do with aptitude in press conferences and whether a coach is willing to really lay into the reporter when they act like a jackal. For better or for worse, that's not Wade's style. But that doesn't mean he should be subject to harrassment and name calling.

And 'presence' doesn't mean somebody is a better coach than somebody else. Wade came in with a better team, but I also think he's doing a better job than Parcells would have done if we had the same talent.

I think by now, after going 33-15 in three seasons Wade deserves some respect.






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dcfanatic;3296960 said:
Who cares about the media.

I'm talking fans.

The media don't give no one a break.

And I get the hometown hero stuff about him being from Texas so people would like to see him succeed. That's cool with me.

But hating on Parcells because he isn't is just ignorant.

I doubt many hate BP. Myself I have stated and honestly think BP was the right man at the right time for Dallas. He was not perfect by any means nor is Wade. BP choose to leave Dallas I harbor no ill will towards the man but Wade is the HC and has done a good job with this team and has added allot to it. I don't see many here or fans in general give Wade much credit the word puppet and he is just a DC comes from people at this sight.
 

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Speaking of Steve Dennis... Brooking had to give a similar verbal beatdown to a radio guy in San Antonio the other day. The guy sounded like he was about to piss his pants. They kept playing it on GAC because the guy used to work for 103.3... Pretty funny.
 

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Yakuza Rich;3297016 said:
I think most of us understand that.

I think the problem is when reporters get downright unprofessional with name calling in particular. I swear, I've probably read more different sports newspapers in this country than the majority of posters here and I've never seen it as bad with any other professional sports team than I have with the Cowboys. In other places if it happens it's so rare and other reporters will often frown on it. But here it's almost encouraged.

The Steve Dennis situation this year was ridiculous.

It has nothing to do with 'presence', it has to do with aptitude in press conferences and whether a coach is willing to really lay into the reporter when they act like a jackal. For better or for worse, that's not Wade's style. But that doesn't mean he should be subject to harrassment and name calling.

And 'presence' doesn't mean somebody is a better coach than somebody else. Wade came in with a better team, but I also think he's doing a better job than Parcells would have done if we had the same talent.

I think by now, after going 33-15 in three seasons Wade deserves some respect.






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dcfanatic;3296352 said:
I got two words for Gerry Fraley which make this article stupid.

Tony Romo.

One of the greatest FA signings in the franchises history.

Not Parcells' doing. Payton's.

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Angus;3297158 said:
Not Parcells' doing. Payton's.

:)
who brought Payton to Dallas?

who wouldn't trade Romo to New Orleans when Payton left after the 2005 season?
 

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Rampage;3297164 said:
who brought Payton to Dallas?

who wouldn't trade Romo to New Orleans when Payton left after the 2005 season?

Who has just had his best season as a QB under the current coaching staff? :laugh2:
 
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