Jerry Jones: We've been thinking about drafting our QB of the future, and almost did in 2014

[visionary]

Having actually seen this play out over the last 2 years, the fact that jerry still thinks that picking Manziel over Martin would have been the right choice should be a sobering thought for all cowboy fans

Manziel was not even worthy of a first round pick in hindsight

 

[Dodger12]

Man, that is my take on it, too. It sure seems as if JJ is ruing that he didn't take JF. As colossal of a bust as he's been in Cleveland, he would very likely have been far worse here. He couldn't quit partying in Cleveland even when it meant his job as a starter, so it doesn't take a lot of imagination to picture the party animal he would have been in Dallas...he'd be much closer to his college stomping grounds and party spots. Add to that the media frenzy that would have resulted with him being a Cowboy and you have the perfect recipe for complete disaster. On the other hand, the team drafted a top quality young man that will be a positive influence and top caliber player for the next decade, or so. JJ just needs to shut up on that subject. He's already an idiot in the eyes of many, and he's not helping himself in changing those thoughts when he openly rues passing on Johnny Party. He was right when he said that drafting Manzeil would keep Dallas "relevant" for the next decade, he just failed to mention that the relevance would have been because of the constant circus surrounding JF's mere presence.

It's absolutely bizarre and I mean bizarre to the extreme especially considering he has the benefit of hind sight where Manziel is concerned. It's actually scary that our GM would lament not taking a guy that has been a bust over a guy who's proven to be an All Pro caliber player. I mean, just scary and bizarre. There's really no other way to describe it and it should be a huge wake up call for fans. It's even left me, one of Jerry's biggest critics, shaking my head. He really is senile.

 

[LandryFan]

It's absolutely bizarre and I mean bizarre to the extreme especially considering he has the benefit of hind sight where Manziel is concerned. It's actually scary that our GM would lament not taking a guy that has been a bust over a guy who's proven to be an All Pro caliber player. I mean, just scary and bizarre. There's really no other way to describe it and it should be a huge wake up call for fans. It's even left me, one of Jerry's biggest critics, shaking my head. He really is senile.

Yep, that's the amazing thing...he has had the opportunity to see the production of both players for two years and still regrets passing on the lesser of the two (I'm being polite here).

 

[Bleu Star]

This could be interpreted as if the guy we wanted in 2014 became available we could do it.

There's no interpreting here. If he becomes available, Jerry is all in.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Jerry loves Johnny for sure. Birds of a feather maybe? He probably sees a guy that he thinks can be coached up by our "outstanding" coaching staff.

 

[cowboyblue22]

jerry is well you know not very good a picking players why do you think the cowboys haven't won anything in twenty years this is real insight on him that's why my confidence going forward is just not very good that they will ever figure it out.

 

[phildadon86]

There's no interpreting here. If he becomes available, Jerry is all in.

Yup

 

[phildadon86]

Having actually seen this play out over the last 2 years, the fact that jerry still thinks that picking Manziel over Martin would have been the right choice should be a sobering thought for all cowboy fans

Manziel was not even worthy of a first round pick in hindsight

What worries me more is wondering if Stephen is any better

 

[TellerMorrow34]

What I get most out of this is that he's likely going to sign Johnny Football when he becomes available after the season.

 

[Bleu Star]

Yup

He's even more all in on JFB now because he has seen him play at the NFL level and show flashes. Jerry is licking his chops.

 

[DallasEast]

I wonder if Cleveland would send him to Dallas in return for Zach Martin...

Cleveland should laugh themselves silly if they pulled that one off. I do see the irony in your question though.

 

[DandyDon52]

Jerry loves Johnny for sure. Birds of a feather maybe? He probably sees a guy that he thinks can be coached up by our "outstanding" coaching staff.

That is exactly how jerry probably sees it, but will he have others support getting Manziel?

 

[mahoneybill]

Translation: I wanted Manziel two years ago to take over for Romo eventually. Manziel would've become a veteran capable of taking over for Romo when he got hurt.

Translation: Manziel fits my ideal of today's NFL quarterbacks like Roethlisberger and he was right there for the taking. However, Cleveland thought Weeden would fit their ideal quarterback solution and he didn't pan out for them.

Translation: As seen in previous drafts, first round quarterbacks do not come with guarantees even though I believe some first round quarterbacks succeed more often than those selected in other rounds.

Translation: The rest of my gang and I have been talking about Romo's successor a lot. I thought the opportunity of finding Romo's successor and Manziel's availability was a match in 2014. There were others discussing which player would be the best choice and suggesting alternatives other than Manziel but I'm not willing to start a media controversy at this time by divulging their names.

Translation: It's our responsibility to formulate the best solution to this problem. In fact, that's my main responsibility as general manager. My job requires the necessary foresight in discovering future roster solutions right now. I saw Manziel as the quarterback solution two years ago and did not draft him.

I want one of those JJ decoders for Christmas

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think in this case it is him saying, "see I was right." I wanted to draft the QB and the rest said no. But then again he could be talking about oil wells or something. He is a bit of a rambler.

That is what you get when you don't read the question he was asked.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

I want one of those JJ decoders for Christmas

Amazon has them. Overnight delivery available too.

 

[KJJ]

Is it concerning to anyone else that Jerry still thinks that a guy who has trouble with drugs & alcohol isa QB to build your future around? Zach Martin made all pro as a rookie and he's now a 2x pro bowler, yet Jerry still thinks he made a mistake.

Never heard Jerry or seen a quote from him saying he made a mistake not drafting Manziel. The mistake would have been drafting him and having to go through the PR nightmare and embarrassment the Browns have gone through with him. Manziel can't even beat out journeyman QBs. Cleveland only wishes they could have ended up with a Zach Martin who became the Cowboys first rookie in 45 years to earn All Pro honors.

 

[KJJ]

From that I get that if Manziel becomes available, we go after him. If not we will trade down and draft a QB.

Even if Manziel becomes available and Jerry takes a chance on him he still has to draft a QB because Manziel hasn't shown enough on or off the field to put all your trust in him. Try and find a QB Cleveland has given up on who's gone on to have great success with another team. Manziel would be brought in on a low risk contract that would protect the team. I wouldn't draft a QB in the top 10 with Romo still having some years left but I wouldn't be opposed to drafting one in the first round via a trade down. Although this draft doesn't appear to be a strong QB draft you can almost bet at least one of the QBs will shoot up the draft boards by draft day.

It happens almost every year where one or two QBs impress at the combine or at a pro day and their draft stock goes way up with one of them going #1 overall or at least in the top 5. The Cowboys could trade down into the teens picking up an extra #2 and take a QB there or trade down again into the mid to late first round and take a QB. They could also use one of their two #2's they acquire in the first trade down on a QB. Bridgwater was taken at #32 in 2014 and Derrick Carr went #36 so you can find a QB late in the first early second round.

I believe this trade down scenario is probably what the Cowboys will do unless one of the QBs really impress them where they feel the need to make the move early so as not to lose them. Personally I would trade down and acquire some extra picks because the QB the Cowboys select is going to be sitting for 2 or more years which is why I wouldn't use a top 10 pick on one. It's a must that a top 10 pick play immediately especially with the holes the Cowboys have.

 

[cml750]

Even if Manziel becomes available and Jerry takes a chance on him he still has to draft a QB because Manziel hasn't shown enough on or off the field to put all your trust in him. Try and find a QB Cleveland has given up on who's gone on to have great success with another team. Manziel would be brought in on a low risk contract that would protect the team. I wouldn't draft a QB in the top 10 with Romo still having some years left but I wouldn't be opposed to drafting one in the first round via a trade down. Although this draft doesn't appear to be a strong QB draft you can almost bet at least one of the QBs will shoot up the draft boards by draft day.

It happens almost every year where one or two QBs impress at the combine or at a pro day and their draft stock goes way up with one of them going #1 overall or at least in the top 5. The Cowboys could trade down into the teens picking up an extra #2 and take a QB there or trade down again into the mid to late first round and take a QB. They could also use one of their two #2's they acquire in the first trade down on a QB. Bridgwater was taken at #32 in 2014 and Derrick Carr went #36 so you can find a QB late in the first early second round.

I believe this trade down scenario is probably what the Cowboys will do unless one of the QBs really impress them where they feel the need to make the move early so as not to lose them. Personally I would trade down and acquire some extra picks because the QB the Cowboys select is going to be sitting for 2 or more years which is why I wouldn't use a top 10 pick on one. It's a must that a top 10 pick play immediately especially with the holes the Cowboys have.

I definitely agree, they should take a QB in the draft no matter what but if Jerry did get Manziel, I doubt they draft another QB. Don't forget this is Jerry you are talking about.

 

[KJJ]

I definitely agree, they should take a QB in the draft no matter what but if Jerry did get Manziel, I doubt they draft another QB. Don't forget this is Jerry you are talking about.

Jerry is starting to listen to others around him if he didn't listen Manziel would have been the pick in 2014 instead of Zach Martin. Even Jerry is smart enough to know Manziel has off the field concerns and hasn't shown enough on the field to put all his marbles on him. Manziel is an alcoholic who had to go through rehab he could fall off the wagon at any moment and can't be trusted. Quincy Carter was released years ago because both Jerry and Parcells said he couldn't be trusted. It's critical the Cowboys come up with a solid, dependable backup who can keep the team afloat if and when Romo gets injured again. He's missed games the past 3 seasons including a season finale elimination game in 2013.

I'll wager with anyone that if Manziel becomes available and is signed by the Cowboys they'll still draft a QB to fully cover themselves. Back in 89 the Cowboys drafted Troy Aikman and took Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft to make sure they hit on a QB. It's a mistake to depend on any QB who's flamed out with another team especially one who flamed out in Cleveland primarily due to a drinking problem. We made the mistake of depending on one of the Bowns castoffs and it helped ruin our 2015 season.

 

[lukin2006]

Instead he should be thanking the people who who convinced him not to draft johnny football.