Jerry on Garrett: Not Impressed

[Dodger12]

nope. kicking the field goal is the consolation. you go for 7 here.

Kicking the FG after the Skins used their 2 remaining TO's and you take the clock down to several seconds all but ensures a win. But you believe what you want.

 

[CATCH17]

I live in the real world not fantasy football world. Stats are one thing but the actual games are can say something entirely different.

lol ok.

The real world says this isn't a parity league?

 

[tyke1doe]

Was it? Maybe it was....oh well...

I know it occurred with the Broncos. The Bears were leading and all Marion Barber has to do is lay down, and Chicago runs out the clock. But he went out of bounds, then I think he fumbles on a subsequent play and Tebow MAGIC happens.

 

[camelboy]

When he stops cutting the HC and set direct relations with players
When he stops ruining the franchise and shoping VS and strip poles inside the stadium
When he let coaches do what they do best without disrespecting them
When he acts his age and stop be a kardashain
When he sell the team and leave us all breath and get our team back

Then he can talk about coaches and their tactical ability .. because just like he talks about coaches they can talk about the owner/president/GM/scout/CEO/CFO/COO

 

[Zman5]

Dude. We haven't scored an offensive touchdown with Cassell on the field since Week 9. In his mind, he knows that field goals haven't gotten it done.

So you think Deaskins would have scored a TD with 20 seconds left without any timeouts when they haven't all game long?

Also, if JG thought FG wasn't getting it done, why does he kick a FG being 3 scores down in the 3rd quarter against Carolina?

 

[DallasDomination]

Jerry's patience is running real low fellas... Linehan is gone and Garrett is on the hot seat.

 

[Zman5]

Didn't the Giants RB in the SB do that, fall down before scoring, against the Patriots a few years back?

So did Brian Westbrook against us.

"IRVING, Texas - Just when you thought you had seen everything Brian Westbrook could do on a football field, he did something else amazing yesterday. He stopped.

With 2 minutes, 19 seconds left and the Eagles leading the Dallas Cowboys by 10-6, the eventual final score, the ball was snapped at the Dallas 25-yard line and it was handed to Westbrook and he went off right tackle and broke into the secondary.

He was free. He was clear. He was going to score the touchdown that put the Eagles up 11 points with about 2:10 remaining.

And then he stopped.

On the 1-yard line

It was a selfless act with a strategic purpose. Dallas was out of timeouts. After the 2-minute warning, all the Eagles would have to do was kneel three times and the game would be theirs. You can debate the strategy - who could possibly calculate the odds of botching three kneel-downs and giving up a score vs. the odds of blowing an 11-point lead with 2 minutes to play? - but you cannot debate that Westbrook gave up a touchdown there and did it as an act of unselfishness.

"
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[noshame]

Gruden must have gotten Jerry's ear at halftime........ Woot. Cowboys vs Skins, bro vs bro. Talk about your main event

 

[Miller]

Does the HC get credit for them being mentally tough when he tries to instill mental toughness on his team? I would say so.

You bolded what you consider the key words in phrases. I missed the word impress, esteem, or anything of the like and I fail to see how you get from what you quoted to 'Jones not impressed.'

What I think is that you aren't impressed and you are replacing Jerry's thoughts with your own. How novel. At least you got Risen's 'gf' to give you a like.

It called "making a catchy title." Ot a synopsis because if you add the parts about not "coaching" a win out of the games without Romo and the part of being tactical it equals not being impressed by what they had done. But I see some of you are more impressed by millionaires who play football actually playing hard for a coach vs what is happening on the field. One Wade year equals "we just need a guy players like." It also means you are hanging your hat on effort because results aren't there. Keep reading the thread and you will see the Kubiak comparison.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It called "making a catchy title." Ot a synopsis because if you add the parts about not "coaching" a win out of the games without Romo and the part of being tactical it equals not being impressed by what they had done. But I see some of you are more impressed by millionaires who play football actually playing hard for a coach vs what is happening on the field. One Wade year equals "we just need a guy players like." It also means you are hanging your hat on effort because results aren't there. Keep reading the thread and you will see the Kubiak comparison.

Making headlines that don't match the substance material is yellow journalism. I've certainly described how I'm not impressed with that.

The rest of your derisive narrative is revealing but not in the way that you think. I see you have selected Kubiak as your bad coach boogeyman as well. Parroting the Houston area narrative after Kubiak left is fun!

 

[Miller]

Making headlines that don't match the substance material is yellow journalism. I've certainly described how I'm not impressed with that.

The rest of your derisive narrative is revealing but not in the way that you think. I see you have selected Kubiak as your bad coach boogeyman as well. Parroting the Houston area narrative after Kubiak left is fun!

It does match is the problem. So not getting the best out of your team while your QB is out and not winning a game because of your game plan IS Impressive?

How is Kubiak a boogeyman? The narrative fits almost identically and I have been on both boards and have seen both cities in the midst of it. But hey knock yourself out, its easier to sit back and pick it apart with nothing concrete except "our guys play hard".....as in the other 31 teams probably don't work as hard for their coach.

Guess some coaches like Todd Bowles are just quick learners to the Tao of Stacking and Processes since they can come in Year 1 and win with Fitzpatrick

 

[Staubacher]

I repectfully disagree.

Well I respect your respecting as I disagree with all due respect! So there

 

[Staubacher]

It does match is the problem. So not getting the best out of your team while your QB is out and not winning a game because of your game plan IS Impressive?

How is Kubiak a boogeyman? The narrative fits almost identically and I have been on both boards and have seen both cities in the midst of it. But hey knock yourself out, its easier to sit back and pick it apart with nothing concrete except "our guys play hard".....as in the other 31 teams probably don't work as hard for their coach.

Guess some coaches like Todd Bowles are just quick learners to the Tao of Stacking and Processes since they can come in Year 1 and win with Fitzpatrick

I'm finding the whole "they play hard" thing more and more insulting and infantile. I watch a lot of NFL, a LOT, and I always see each team fighting their butts off. Bad teams, good teams, etc. In fact it stands out like a sore thumb when a player or team does appear to be loafing because it is rare and unacceptable everywhere, not just in Garrettland.

I'm pretty sure we can find a HC who can manage to have his players actually play and maybe just maybe the added bonus of knowing some Xs and Os and managing the game like a HC is supposed to do.

It can be done folks. I promise if Garrett is gone these highly paid proud young men won't start pooping themselves on the field.

It's time to let go - Garrett gone and no one will miss him or ever pine for the ol' days with him.

 

[CapnCook]

You and another poster said we could have called a timeout after the 1st down run to reinforce the point, and can't argue much with that, though I'm not sure it's worth burning a timeout in a close game when we might have then been forced to use our last right before a FG with time left for them afterwards. I don't think it's a clear call, but timeout might have been the right call.

The last point I won't have a popular opinion on since a lot have said similar in this thread, but if you expect pro athletes (not the sharpest dudes in the shed) to remember a drill run 5 months prior in training camp covering the situation, or something mentioned in a position meeting that week when they are zoned out checking their phone, then you have a lot more faith in their high pressure mental functioning than I do. I trust their muscle memory, not their mental awareness.

I'm in no way saying the end was managed well, I just think it was a strange series of events and doesn't condemn any particular party. We did win the game.

All fair enough, and just for clarity, the coaching opportunity comes in a dead ball situation after McFadden runs out of bounds. The Cowboys had two, IIRC. And you're right, we did win the game. I just hope they are not resting on any laurels, and Jason sees the risk exposure and at least considers.

Nice exchange. I wish more on this board could discuss their differing viewpoints similarly.

 

[Miller]

I'm finding the whole "they play hard" thing more and more insulting and infantile. I watch a lot of NFL, a LOT, and I always see each team fighting their butts off. Bad teams, good teams, etc. In fact it stands out like a sore thumb when a player or team does appear to be loafing because it is rare and unacceptable everywhere, not just in Garrettland.

I'm pretty sure we can find a HC who can manage to have his players actually play and maybe just maybe the added bonus of knowing some Xs and Os and managing the game like a HC is supposed to do.

It can be done folks. I promise if Garrett is gone these highly paid proud young men won't start pooping themselves on the field.

It's time to let go - Garrett gone and no one will miss him or ever pine for the ol' days with him.

Exactly...I watched the Giants and Skins two weeks back, the Giants and Jets this week, I watch Thursdays, I watch Sunday night and Monday night. I don't think I've seen a team yet lay down. Heck the Eagles were a shambles and just came back and beat the Pats in NE. Is Chip Kelly now inspiring guys to play hard despite some people claiming otherwise? News bulletin, NFL players work on their bodies and trade all off season and then they go to games and work hard to win and make more money.

 

[Staubacher]

All fair enough, and just for clarity, the coaching opportunity comes in a dead ball situation after McFadden runs out of bounds. The Cowboys had two, IIRC. And you're right, we did win the game. I just hope they are not resting on any laurels, and Jason sees the risk exposure and at least considers.

Nice exchange. I wish more on this board could discuss their differing viewpoints similarly.

Garrett doesn't learn from it. In his mind every game this year was done "the right way". He even said as much in the midst of the losing streak, something to the effect of we will continue to do things the right way and eventually the results will follow. He doesn't view this as learning as he goes like Jerrah hoped. Garrett has his controlled, limited process that involves very little in the way of Xs and Os and adjustments, just big picture philosophies.

He has an entitled elitist view and thinks he is some guru who can will a bunch of kindergarten kids to victory in a man's game.

 

[Staubacher]

Exactly...I watched the Giants and Skins two weeks back, the Giants and Jets this week, I watch Thursdays, I watch Sunday night and Monday night. I don't think I've seen a team yet lay down. Heck the Eagles were a shambles and just came back and beat the Pats in NE. Is Chip Kelly now inspiring guys to play hard despite some people claiming otherwise? New bulletin, NFL players work on their bodies and trade all off season and then they go to games and work hard to win and make more money.

Jim Tomsula must be a friggin genius at motivation. One year and he has the Niners with Gabbert and a completely depleted roster as 4-8 just like us. In a tougher division.

 

[TheDude]

This the one time I want jerry to speak. Thank god he see's that Garrett and Scotty's game management has been horrible.

I wonder if many defending the end of game mismanagement in another thread will come here defend it since the team says its wrong

 

[Beast_from_East]

Jerry finally realizing Garrett brings nothing to the table

We won on will and not tacticle mastery is code for we won on talent alone and not coaching

That is only what 90% of the fans have been saying for years

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Garrett never realized the skins had only 2 timeouts or he would have instructed dmac to stay in bounds .I have no idea who let this guy into Princeton.

how could he not know just to fall on the fall three times, send Bailey in and kick the FG

I told my son today (he went to bed before I watched the game on DVR) what happened and he just laughed.