Jerry on Garrett: Not Impressed

[Miller]

he could of been told. why don't you get that? you are placing blame on someone for doing something he may well of done.

you don't know, yet here you are. IGNORANCE!!!!

Seriously, what do you not get? It's getting embarrassing...for you and your family. You responded pages back saying that its on the RB, not the coach. I said it is on the coach some because they should be instructing the player. I didn't say it happened or didn't just that it is on the coach to instruct and the player to follow....that's it. Since then you have been lifting your skirt for all to see. If you can't follow a logical conversation or premise, take a break. Name calling isn't an argument.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Going out of bounds was a mistake. It was a mistake by the guy that made the mistake. Personal accountability is huge for men like Jason – I guarantee this is being dealt with behind doors where it belongs.

Scoring a touchdown was not a mistake. If you think it was a mistake to go up 7 points, you are beyond reasoning with. Plain and simple.

Everything that went wrong after we scored a touchdown could of went wrong after we got a first down. To complain about going up 7 is just asinine. I sat though this season listening to the crybabies long enough. Enough! This is a line in the sand moment here. If you think it is a mistake to take 7 points, you simply aren’t worth talking to anymore. This is my last reply in this idiotic thread.

 

[Wayne02]

BTW, guys, let's see if we can't tone down the animosity in the thread here a little bit. This one's been a little bit bare knuckle for a bit here, but there are limits to what's cool and what's not.

I know tempers are hot after the disappointing win last night, but please at least try to be civil to each other.

Disappointing win? What are you talking about? No one is disappointed about the win, but we're disappointed in the continuous blunders towards the end of football games.

 

[Cowboys22]

According to Broaddus:

Its not just last night. Dez has been shut down by numerous average CBs. Maybe he wasn't 100% but he was also running predictable and easy to cover routes. If he is less than 100%, then that's all the more reason to get creative to get him open. I don't blame Cassell because for the most part Dez has not been open and has not been moved around to get him open so I wouldn't look his way very often either.

 

[Miller]

Going out of bounds was a mistake. It was a mistake by the guy that made the mistake. Personal accountability is huge for men like Jason – I guarantee this is being dealt with behind doors where it belongs.

Scoring a touchdown was not a mistake. If you think it was a mistake to go up 7 points, you are beyond reasoning with. Plain and simple.

Everything that went wrong after we scored a touchdown could of went wrong after we got a first down. To complain about going up 7 is just asinine. I sat though this season listening to the crybabies long enough. Enough! This is a line in the sand moment here. If you think it is a mistake to take 7 points, you simply aren’t worth talking to anymore. This is my last reply in this idiotic thread.

And the crowd erupts

Jerry: "Eric just wasn't getting it. He could have won just a few more arguments just by reading and having some thread awareness. His name calling was on will alone"

By the way...you get the first, they burn a timeout. They have one left. You then kneel, they burn another. You then run clock with two more plays. You kick FG with around 10 seconds or so. So less likely that all that happened would happen again. But hey, have fun.

 

[aikemirv]

I have never seen a Garrett team not play hard. He has the locker room. That's what is important.

Bad clock decisions happen all the time all over the NFL. Same with playcalling, scheme, "lighting a fire under them", and all the mindless, know-nothing blather you hear in every NFL city all the time.

This team is missing Romo and perhaps Callahan, and the offensive line and personnel are overrated otherwise. Romo makes stars out of otherwise average dudes.

You just hit the nail on the head. He does not necessarily fit my style but the teams plays for him and we definitely have seen that not be the case in the past 20 years for Dallas!

 

[Sportsbabe]

Exactly....


This whole thing about playing hard and keeping teams in every game goes for about every team in the NFL.

Almost every team plays hard and almost every team stays in every game.

Nope. How many teams gave up 40 plus points this weekend? Balt lost to Miami. The Colts...the Giants...I could go on.

We are not half as talented as most teams but we are in the games to the last play. That says a lot about the coaching staff whether you admit it or not.

 

[Idgit]

Disappointing win? What are you talking about? No one is disappointed about the win, but we're disappointed in the continuous blunders towards the end of football games.

Lighten up. Or read the threads more carefully. There were a lot of people openly disappointed about winning the game last night.

Either way, I agree with you about the time management mistakes here for once. That's going to have to be enough for you for today.

And I wasn't kidding about the tone of the thread, guys.

 

[coult44]

Here's a couple ideas about clock mgmt.

1) there was about 5-6 minutes from the time DJ fumbled the ball and the time we ran the ball on first down . There was plenty of time and opportunity for JG to tell everyone to stay in bounds.

2) Why didn't we take timeout at the end of the first half. We knew they were kicking a FG, no excuse for us not saving some time in case of a miss, a good return, a block, etc. Inexcusable .

 

[HeavyBarrel]

Garrett never realized the skins had only 2 timeouts or he would have instructed dmac to stay in bounds .I have no idea who let this guy into Princeton.

High IQ, total doofus in real life (or game) situations, we are surrounded by them.

 

[Wayne02]

Lighten up. Or read the threads more carefully. There were a lot of people openly disappointed about winning the game last night.

Either way, I agree with you about the time management mistakes here for once. That's going to have to be enough for you for today.

And I wasn't kidding about the tone of the thread, guys.

I'm lightened. I'm just tired of the little banner shots about "disappointing wins" towards a handful of posters who said they wanted to lose out. Most on here were happy about the win last night.

 

[coult44]

Going out of bounds was a mistake. It was a mistake by the guy that made the mistake. Personal accountability is huge for men like Jason – I guarantee this is being dealt with behind doors where it belongs.

Scoring a touchdown was not a mistake. If you think it was a mistake to go up 7 points, you are beyond reasoning with. Plain and simple.

Everything that went wrong after we scored a touchdown could of went wrong after we got a first down. To complain about going up 7 is just asinine. I sat though this season listening to the crybabies long enough. Enough! This is a line in the sand moment here. If you think it is a mistake to take 7 points, you simply aren’t worth talking to anymore. This is my last reply in this idiotic thread.

Thank God

 

[Super_Kazuya]

You could research one single thread and see some of the people replying here were saying these things when they were happening without knowledge of the game result.

But yet you refuse to acknowledge this isn't all hindsight. Seriously look it up please then get back to this.

You need to read the definition too. Actually read it. Just because you correctly guess something doesn't have anything to do with it. It's hindsight.

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[movaughn88]

Its not conflicting. I am blaming McFadden for not knowing having the awareness on his own, and I am blaming Garrett for not ensuring another mental lapse happens again. I am making an assumption that the communication did not happen. Fair enough. There's two timeouts. After McFadden goes out of bounds, use one. It just like the Arizona game. He didn't ice his kicker. What he did do was not use one of his multiple timeouts after the 18 yard third down conversion to settle things down and make sure the players had the right mind set. Those are things I expect from a head coach.

So maybe lets split the difference and blame it on McFadden. He just didn't have the heads up mentality that we've seen so many other players have in similar situations. And THAT starts in the meeting rooms. And now we're all the way back around to coaching.

You and another poster said we could have called a timeout after the 1st down run to reinforce the point, and can't argue much with that, though I'm not sure it's worth burning a timeout in a close game when we might have then been forced to use our last right before a FG with time left for them afterwards. I don't think it's a clear call, but timeout might have been the right call.

The last point I won't have a popular opinion on since a lot have said similar in this thread, but if you expect pro athletes (not the sharpest dudes in the shed) to remember a drill run 5 months prior in training camp covering the situation, or something mentioned in a position meeting that week when they are zoned out checking their phone, then you have a lot more faith in their high pressure mental functioning than I do. I trust their muscle memory, not their mental awareness.

I'm in no way saying the end was managed well, I just think it was a strange series of events and doesn't condemn any particular party. We did win the game.

 

[Idgit]

I'm lightened. I'm just tired of the little banner shots about "disappointing wins" towards a handful of posters who said they wanted to lose out. Most on here were happy about the win last night.

Well, if you're lightened, and I'm lightened, we can just be lightened together. I didn't like the way we handled that series any better than you did.

 

[phildadon86]

in this case I agree. you don't assume the player knows. you remind him to stay in bounce. further more. DMac could have just gone done after the first down inside the 5. he should know where it is. a first down and game is over. because we get three new downs and they have two timeouts.

stupid game management at the end.

They literally could have kneeled out the game.

 

[Staubacher]

Here's a couple ideas about clock mgmt.

1) there was about 5-6 minutes from the time DJ fumbled the ball and the time we ran the ball on first down . There was plenty of time and opportunity for JG to tell everyone to stay in bounds.

2) Why didn't we take timeout at the end of the first half. We knew they were kicking a FG, no excuse for us not saving some time in case of a miss, a good return, a block, etc. Inexcusable .

Garrett was afraid of the offense making a mistake with 45 seconds left in the first half and two timeouts. Actually we would have had more time than that as you said if he called a TO earlier. Yet at the end of the game he was forced by circumstance to do exactly that - hope the team could drive down the field with 45 seconds left and 2 TOs. Luckily Lucky had a big return and made it easy.

Point being Garrett will always take the risk averse route until he is forced not to. He has played to win FG battles all year and it's worked 1 out of 8 times and only then despite his bad game mgmt.

 

[CATCH17]

Nope. How many teams gave up 40 plus points this weekend? Balt lost to Miami. The Colts...the Giants...I could go on.

We are not half as talented as most teams but we are in the games to the last play. That says a lot about the coaching staff whether you admit it or not.

Look up the statistics of points and games decided.

 

[DallasInDC]

Wow. That's some harsh criticism from Jerry. Maybe Jason isn't as safe as we thought...

IKR....When I saw that thread title, I was like then I was like followed by and now I'm just .

This gives me some hope (however little it may be) that this coaching ineptitude will be addressed.

 

[aikemirv]

Here's a couple ideas about clock mgmt.

1) there was about 5-6 minutes from the time DJ fumbled the ball and the time we ran the ball on first down . There was plenty of time and opportunity for JG to tell everyone to stay in bounds.

2) Why didn't we take timeout at the end of the first half. We knew they were kicking a FG, no excuse for us not saving some time in case of a miss, a good return, a block, etc. Inexcusable .

1) How do you know he did not?
2) Do you remember a few plays at the end of first halves where we have had a turnover and an opponent score by playing aggressively at the end of the half? I think you do....