Jerry on Gregory "We're doing everything we can to get him back on the field."

[Trouty]

The issue I have is with the Dallas front office.

Dramatic? No... just think Hardy brought an uneeded circus to Dallas, barely produced-- alienated his teammates and coaches, and cost us millions of dollars.

Other than that-- you're right. It was a great year with him on the team

Cost a 4-12 team millions. Was gone the next year. Was productive and allowed DLaw to produce like he never has since.

He produced quite a bit before the media "circus" dug their fangs in him (like a fer de lance @haleyrules ) and took him off his game. It's why I said "focused" in one of the posts above.

If anything, Hardy only hurt himself, and alienated only himself.

 

[links18]

Didn't he cost someone a roster spot last season for like a game or two of playing time?

 

[haleyrules]

Cost a 4-12 team millions. Was gone the next year. Was productive and allowed DLaw to produce like he never has since.

He produced quite a bit before the media "circus" dug their fangs in him (like a fer de lance @haleyrules ) and took him off his game. It's why I said "focused" in one of the posts above.

If anything, Hardy only hurt himself, and alienated only himself.

Hardy was effective...especially when you consider how average his team mates were and because of that he was double teamed all season...The media attention certainly effected his spirit.

 

[Wood]

He sees top 5 overall pick talent... at a position that is our biggest weakness.

Not only that but his first step might be best I have ever seen. I won't watch another clip of him in previous drills because I am not sold on his mental capacity to handle the NFL but if he ever gets back on field I will be a vocal supporter.

 

[SportsGuru80]

Exactly. And I have no problem with weed. Hell, up until 3 years ago I smoked everyday. I don't want someone stupid enough to fail drug test after drug test when they know they're going to be tested.

Yeah I just don't get it....

 

[RoboQB]

With Gregory's history, I will say the rumor is more than a rumor.

Where there's smoke... there's Randy.

 

[Trouty]

Where there's smoke... there's Randy.

 

[MileyDancer]

Where there's smoke... there's Randy.

My boy works for the Cowboys, and he's said Randy is just an idiot. He said when you talk to him, you're not sure whether he's understanding, or not.

 

[RoboQB]

Thank you!

Well it's obvious, what we need to do. We need Tony Stark to pay a visit to Randy.... lol

By the way, great example there. I can't believe your point was missed.

If Hollywood had given up on RDJ (Robert Downey, Jr.), he would've never been given a chance for
his comeback. And he's starred in successful movies not connected with The Avengers juggernaut.
But really, all Hollywood did was leave the door open for him to walk through once he was ready and
if their was still time.

That's all Jerry is doing, and bless him for doing so, leaving the door open.

Personally, I have serious doubt that this will have a story book ending. But it's not costing anything to
wait while there's still time. And what if, just maybe, it does end well? Then how do the haters feel?

Some just hate for the sake of hating.

 

[Trouty]

Well it's obvious, what we need to do. We need Tony Stark to pay a visit to Randy.... lol

By the way, great example there. I can't believe your point was missed.

If Hollywood had given up on RDJ (Robert Downey, Jr.), he would've never been given a chance for
his comeback. And he's starred in successful movies not connected with The Avengers juggernaut.
But really, all Hollywood did was leave the door open for him to walk through once he was ready and
if their was still time.

That's all Jerry is doing, and bless him for doing so, leaving the door open.

Personally, I have serious doubt that this will have a story book ending. But it's not costing anything to
wait while there's still time. And what if, just maybe, it does end well? Then how do the haters feel?

Some just hate for the sake of hating.

Thanks, Robo. Couldn't have said it better.

I have the same doubt as yourself, unfortunately.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Well it's obvious, what we need to do. We need Tony Stark to pay a visit to Randy.... lol

By the way, great example there. I can't believe your point was missed.

If Hollywood had given up on RDJ (Robert Downey, Jr.), he would've never been given a chance for
his comeback. And he's starred in successful movies not connected with The Avengers juggernaut.
But really, all Hollywood did was leave the door open for him to walk through once he was ready and
if their was still time.

That's all Jerry is doing, and bless him for doing so, leaving the door open.

Personally, I have serious doubt that this will have a story book ending. But it's not costing anything to
wait while there's still time. And what if, just maybe, it does end well? Then how do the haters feel?

Some just hate for the sake of hating.

RDJ took personal responsibility for his situation and was able to overcome his situation after he hit rock bottom (though it took years)... Randy has yet to do so-- like you, I hope for the good ending. I don't hate Randy-- just believe that there are times for accountability and that in fact-- getting cut by Dallas may just be the wake up call he needs to begin to get some perspective on his life and the opportunity in front of him.

As a "hater" -- I would actually cheer for him if he gets his life together and succeeds. It wouldn't even have to be in Dallas lol.

And if he does get his stuff together and succeeds-- it wouldn't mean it was the wrong decision to cut him any more than it would have been the wrong decision for RDJ to go to rehab and prison.

 

[RoboQB]

RDJ took personal responsibility for his situation and was able to overcome his situation after he hit rock bottom (though it took years)... Randy has yet to do so-- like you, I hope for the good ending. I don't hate Randy-- just believe that there are times for accountability and that in fact-- getting cut by Dallas may just be the wake up call he needs to begin to get some perspective on his life and the opportunity in front of him.

As a "hater" -- I would actually cheer for him if he gets his life together and succeeds. It wouldn't even have to be in Dallas lol.

And if he does get his stuff together and succeeds-- it wouldn't mean it was the wrong decision to cut him any more than it would have been the wrong decision for RDJ to go to rehab and prison.

That's fine. I don't see how Jerry is enabling the kid. He's giving him something to fight for.
It costs the team nothing. What happens if, let's say, Dallas releases him and soon after
his life gets very dark. Then you wake up to a headline: Former Cowboy Commits Suicide After Release.
But hey, as long as he hits rock bottom, right?

Jerry is just leaving a door open. And it's not hurting the team one bit.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

My boy works for the Cowboys, and he's said Randy is just an idiot. He said when you talk to him, you're not sure whether he's understanding, or not.

You meet him at the liquor store?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

RDJ took personal responsibility for his situation and was able to overcome his situation after he hit rock bottom (though it took years)... Randy has yet to do so-- like you, I hope for the good ending. I don't hate Randy-- just believe that there are times for accountability and that in fact-- getting cut by Dallas may just be the wake up call he needs to begin to get some perspective on his life and the opportunity in front of him.

As a "hater" -- I would actually cheer for him if he gets his life together and succeeds. It wouldn't even have to be in Dallas lol.

And if he does get his stuff together and succeeds-- it wouldn't mean it was the wrong decision to cut him any more than it would have been the wrong decision for RDJ to go to rehab and prison.

I like how you are comparing him to heroin addicts and think its valid. It's friggin marijuana.

Also this RDJ imdb page. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000375/

Please point to me the era you think that hollywood cut him off.

I'll help: he never stopped working.

 

[Trouty]

I like how you are comparing him to heroin addicts and think its valid. It's friggin marijuana.

Also this RDJ imdb page. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000375/

Please point to me the era you think that hollywood cut him off.

I'll help: he never stopped working.

The point (my point) wasn't heroin and the "oogy boogy drugs" as Hawkeye so latched on to.

Rather, it was his (Hawkeye's) support (through his use of the man's pic in his avatar) of a man ostracized by quite a few, for a much more harmful substance, and yet given every chance to succeed. And boy did he (RDJ) ever.

Just using your post to piggy back, Fuzzy

 

[Trouty]

You meet him at the liquor store?

Right!?

Gregory has always come across as incredibly intelligent.

Garbage post is garbage.

 

[Hawkeye19]

That's fine. I don't see how Jerry is enabling the kid. He's giving him something to fight for.
It costs the team nothing. What happens if, let's say, Dallas releases him and soon after
his life gets very dark. Then you wake up to a headline: Former Cowboy Commits Suicide After Release.
But hey, as long as he hits rock bottom, right?

Jerry is just leaving a door open. And it's not hurting the team one bit.

Why do you think JJ is working so hard to change the league's weed policy? Out of altruism? LOL... Let's not pretend JJ is a saint here.

He wants his ROI from his 2nd round pick and wants to see Randy's talent on the field.

And yes I know-- the NFL needs to change its policy on marijuana and I am in favor of that.

But all along my issue has been with the front office and their policy of gambling in poor character guys that are talented.

You simply can't build a team on unreliable players-- and Gregory has proven to be so.

The idea that it costs us nothing to wait for him and hope he turns the corner at this point is denying the problem I am tryinh to address;

It cost us a damn second round pick and we could have a productive player on the field right now but instead we're having to babysit a grown man who can't control his weed habit (which is ridiculous to me)

 

[Hawkeye19]

I like how you are comparing him to heroin addicts and think its valid. It's friggin marijuana.

Also this RDJ imdb page. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000375/

Please point to me the era you think that hollywood cut him off.

I'll help: he never stopped working.

I did not compare RDJ to Gregory... Trouty did as a way to strengthen his point that Uncle Jerry = Hollywood in the story and we need to leave the door open in case Randy makes a comeback like Iron Man.

I agree with you-- its apples to oranges. My only point in the comparison is that RDJ did have to own up to his addiction , take responsibility, and make some changes in order to succeed-- and he has been through rehab and jail (rock bottom).

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I'm not, just praying

Pray with me, brother!

I pray from common sense! ... for him!

 

[Hawkeye19]

The point (my point) wasn't heroin and the "oogy boogy drugs" as Hawkeye so latched on to.

Rather, it was his (Hawkeye's) support (through his use of the man's pic in his avatar) of a man ostracized by quite a few, for a much more harmful substance, and yet given every chance to succeed. And boy did he (RDJ) ever.

Just using your post to piggy back, Fuzzy

You misguidedly assumed I have a hangup with marijuana-- which I don't-- and you mistakenly think I'm preaching morality when in fact I am actually making a business decision:

We are getting nothing for our 2nd round investment-- and we need to change our philosophy of drafting guys who have issues.

Instead-- JJ is now crusading to change the NFLs policy.

Because I want to cut an irresponsible player and see a change in philosophy in the front office-- somehow in your mind that equaled I am a hypocrite because RDJ is on my avatar is just absurd lol