Jerry says roster spot waiting for Brent

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Absolutely -- that would surely be the only to handle it sensibly.

I have no problem with him having a spot on the 90, and someone else being bumped off. I'm sure there are a few players that are bigger long shots. It's completely insignificant but I'm curious as to what # he would wear now
 

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Martez Wilson is beginning to assert himself quite impressively as a situational pass rushing DE on the weakside. Good to see.
 

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I have no problem with him having a spot on the 90, and someone else being bumped off. I'm sure there are a few players that are bigger long shots. It's completely insignificant but I'm curious as to what # he would wear now

To be totally candid, I'm not absolutely convinced Brent is ideally suited to be a DT in Marinelli's system. It's not like he was setting the world on fire long before he ever got himself into trouble. Now, after being inactive for so long, it'll be a tough climb to re-establish himself in a lineup that has some pretty capable youngsters vying for spots on the roster as DTs also. He's anything but a shoe-in.
 

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To be totally candid, I'm not absolutely convinced Brent is ideally suited to be a DT in Marinelli's system. It's not like he was setting the world on fire long before he ever got himself into trouble. Now, after being inactive for so long, it'll be a tough climb to re-establish himself in a lineup that has some pretty capable youngsters vying for spots on the roster as well.

He wasn't an all-pro but he was starting to really play some good sound football. I agree he may not be a fit in DM's system at all, however if guys like Coleman and Bishop can seem to have success there I am sure Brent can as well. If he can re-establish himself then it's a huge win for us and a huge win for Brent in the next step of getting life back together
 

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Because Dallas wanted a pass rushing DE and after 2 other tops one went off the board Dallas felt they had to move to get their guy. As Will McClay said

On trading a third-round pick to move up and draft Boise State defensive end Demarcus Lawrence: “There’s five million [trade charts],” McClay said. “There’s 10,000 ways to look at how you do the draft. What’s most important is that you have a vision for the player, that you know what you expect to get and what value do we place on that for what we’re trying to do. I think we were very well prepared to do the things we needed to do because we discussed them.”

– McClay’s thoughts on Lawrence: “With the amount of passing that’s in the NFL right now, and the way that we’re going to play defense, it’s important to play fast, to play physical and get after the passer,” he said. “Whether this guy starts and plays 60 plays a game, which we don’t plan on doing, or if he plays 30-40 plays a game, as he gets into learning the NFL game, as long as he does what we drafted him for, we got great value.”

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...m-the-pressure-of-being-a-dallas-cowboy.html/

People can debate this all they want, Dallas did have to give up a pick to make this move but in the end if you end up with a guy you wanted then sometimes you have to bite the bullet

I don't have a problem with the player (Demarcus Lawrence). I feel Lawrence has talent, but I have an issue with how the method was done. Our team has so many needs that we could not afford to trade up knowing our depth is weak.

If I'm wrong about this and Lawrence gets 20 sacks, please feed me some crow.

But with Dallas current track record (when it comes to the draft and free agency) the result is usually negative.
 

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I have no problem with Jerry saying a spot on the 90 is there. I'm certain he will have to earn his way onto the 53. I'm not certain he can make it even if he's in shape.

I wonder if he can go to the non-football list.
 

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I don't have a problem with the player (Demarcus Lawrence). I feel Lawrence has talent, but I have an issue with how the method was done. Our team has so many needs that we could not afford to trade up knowing our depth is weak.

If I'm wrong about this and Lawrence gets 20 sacks, please feed me some crow.

But with Dallas current track record (when it comes to the draft and free agency) the result is usually negative.

Dallas big problems are on defense and I don't care what defense you are talking about you need an outside rusher Dallas did what they felt they needed to help this defense out. In the meantime they have bought in guys at DT but getting a pass rushing DE is critical. They did what they felt was right. Jones listened to McClay. As for the comment of 20 sacks give me a break how many fricken guys even vets will pull off 20 sacks that is pretty far fetched
 

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He wasn't an all-pro but he was starting to really play some good sound football. I agree he may not be a fit in DM's system at all, however if guys like Coleman and Bishop can seem to have success there I am sure Brent can as well. If he can re-establish himself then it's a huge win for us and a huge win for Brent in the next step of getting life back together

The thing is, Brent has absolutely nothing to offer in the area of being a "rushman." He's strictly a 1-tech that Marinelli doesn't necessarily place very much value in. Coleman and Bishop are made to order for RM's system and lately have begun to really assert themselves and look like they have excellent chances to fit like gloves within that scheme. I think Brent will be challenged greatly to beat out the youngsters like those two. He's more than likely got a long ways to go before he's ready physically to compete at an NFL level. I'm anything but convinced he'll be able to beat out the guys already in camp. It's a question of numbers.
 

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I have no problem with Jerry saying a spot on the 90 is there. I'm certain he will have to earn his way onto the 53. I'm not certain he can make it even if he's in shape.

I wonder if he can go to the non-football list.

In shape or not, he should be able to displace the Golden Cock. Right?

If the Cowboys do allow him to come back (league permitting) I can see him as a solid backup.
 

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I just don't understand this Brent situation. This is a waste of time and energy. If Jerry wanted a DT he should have not traded up in the second round and stayed put to select Timmy Jernigan.

For Jerry to still welcome Brent back shows how desperate this team needs a DT.

They had said after the draft, Jernigan was not on their radar, they felt he wasn't a fit for what they were looking for.
 

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I'm sick of the whole "RKG" thing, because yawhoos here define it how ever they want to define it to support their agenda.

I can understand this and I don't know what RKG is supposed to be defined as but for me personally, no matter how I'd define it, this guy doesn't fit in with my plans.

For me personally I don't believe he should be playing football in the NFL for the Dallas Cowboys, or anyone else for that matter. I know that won't be popular with some people, and that's fine, but there is just no reason in my mind where he should be playing pro football after that.

I felt the same way about Little as well.
 

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The thing is, Brent has absolutely nothing to offer in the area of being a "rushman." He's strictly a 1-tech that Marinelli doesn't necessarily place very much value in. Coleman and Bishop are made to order for RM's system and lately have begun to really assert themselves and look like they have excellent chances to fit like gloves within that scheme. I think Brent will be challenged greatly to beat out the youngsters like those two. He's more than likely got a long ways to go before he's ready physically to compete at an NFL level. I'm anything but convinced he'll be able to beat out the guys already in camp. It's a question of numbers.
I will take your word for it. I haven't looked up Brent's combine #'s and he was asked to play things different in a 3-4. I have no idea what he can so as a rush men
 

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I think its a mistake will be lots of bad press for the team and organization will be a distraction
 

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Dallas big problems are on defense and I don't care what defense you are talking about you need an outside rusher Dallas did what they felt they needed to help this defense out. In the meantime they have bought in guys at DT but getting a pass rushing DE is critical. They did what they felt was right. Jones listened to McClay. As for the comment of 20 sacks give me a break how many fricken guys even vets will pull off 20 sacks that is pretty far fetched

I'm not going to argue with you about this. I just disagree with how it was done. Going back to the subject of Brent. I feel its a waste of time.
 

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I have my opinions on the right and wrong of this morally, but I'll keep it football related. Why on Earth would we be keeping a roster spot open for a guy who hasn't played in over a year? A guy who wasn't exactly Randy White in his prime to begin with? Why not just say "we're open to giving him a tryout," or something more along those lines?

I assume by roster spot, Jerry means a place on the 90-man roster for Brent. If that's the case, then I see no reason to really care. If Brent can pass a physical, is it going to really matter whether he's on the preseason roster instead of someone like backup long snapper Casey Kreiter or one of the bodies we've recently picked up just for game numbers?
 

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I'm not going to argue with you about this. I just disagree with how it was done. Going back to the subject of Brent. I feel its a waste of time.

Nothing to argue about Cowboys got the guy they wanted. As for Brent having him come to camp and compete for a spot how is that a waste of time?
 

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I still don't understand why it would be better if it's on another team? I'm not directing this at you because I've seen it written a few times, but that just sounds like a cop out. Why not this team? His whole support group is here he's friends are here the owner who has supported him is here, Mr. Wells the man in charge of helping him get his life back together is here. It's makes zero sense for him to go to another team. Heck if anything if he went to another team it could damage all the work he's done for himself. I don't know how much he can help, but I'm willing to give the guy a chance and see where his head is and where he is physically.

I tend to agree that he would be better off on another team. The Dallas media and fans can be relentless in hassling players. If he was on another team, he would get a fresh start and their fans/media wouldn't really care about a non-star DT.
 

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I can tell you where he would help immediately...and that is short yardage and in the Red Zone.
 
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