Jerry should try to get A.Rodgers, or Wilson here is why

[atlantacowboy]

I love fantasy football.

 

[kskboys]

lets not forget the theory that if a QB has 15% of the cap hit, then that team will not be able to win the superbowl, but I guess they like to make exceptions LOL

At this point, it's fact, not a theory

 

[kskboys]

How does this post have 7 pages of replies???

Are u chitting me? Posters will talk stupid Dak talk incessantly.

 

[The Fonz]

Ok first I know we cant force trade Dak, but if he wanted to be traded, it could be done.

The solution is to bring in Rodgers or Wilson, and tell Dak your now the Bkup dude
If he wants to sit on bench for most of season he can collect his check. But I think Dak would want to be
traded, so he would then pick a team and they could get a trade done , if that team wanted him.

I may be wrong but if he was traded, he could redo his deal/ contract to make it happen.

Now I hear that jerry likes attention, keep the team in the news, keep team relevant ! I hear this almost daily here.
What would make dallas the most relevant and talked about team?
Well getting Rodgers #1 or Wilson # 2 ! If he got Rodgers, jerry would have 100's of media wanting to talk to him, internet would explode !

And Rodgers is I think undefeated in ATT, and said he loves playing there. He is older now
and would probably love playing in a comfy dome for 8-9 games, and only a few outdoor games.

He would have some good WR , good RB, and if jerry let him be the oc/play caller/qb , the offense would
probably be awesome.

Jerry wants a SB, or at least champ game, and which scenario has best chance to succeed?
Dak/kellen
Rodgers/Rodgers

I think a guy like Rodgers should be calling his own plays anyway, he is smart enough, and has many years
of experience, he doesnt need anyone to call his plays.

If jerry got rodgers, and let him call his own plays, I think even I would be drinking that kool aide lol.
Or just get him, and even with boy genius calling plays, it would be so much different.

Wilson is a step down, but can still run it, and it would be interesting too. I also think Russell is smart enough
to call his own plays.

I know I am dreaming, but it is off season, and it is a exciting day dream lol.

As far as the money, Rodgers would probably bend on that if he wanted to come here, and thats
why letting him run the offense and call his own plays might get him to come here cheap, on a 2 year deal.

DandyDon52 that is a fantastic idea but you know Jerry loves his guys

 

[GINeric]

Ok first I know we cant force trade Dak, but if he wanted to be traded, it could be done.

The solution is to bring in Rodgers or Wilson, and tell Dak your now the Bkup dude
If he wants to sit on bench for most of season he can collect his check. But I think Dak would want to be
traded, so he would then pick a team and they could get a trade done , if that team wanted him.

I may be wrong but if he was traded, he could redo his deal/ contract to make it happen.

Now I hear that jerry likes attention, keep the team in the news, keep team relevant ! I hear this almost daily here.
What would make dallas the most relevant and talked about team?
Well getting Rodgers #1 or Wilson # 2 ! If he got Rodgers, jerry would have 100's of media wanting to talk to him, internet would explode !

And Rodgers is I think undefeated in ATT, and said he loves playing there. He is older now
and would probably love playing in a comfy dome for 8-9 games, and only a few outdoor games.

He would have some good WR , good RB, and if jerry let him be the oc/play caller/qb , the offense would
probably be awesome.

Jerry wants a SB, or at least champ game, and which scenario has best chance to succeed?
Dak/kellen
Rodgers/Rodgers

I think a guy like Rodgers should be calling his own plays anyway, he is smart enough, and has many years
of experience, he doesnt need anyone to call his plays.

If jerry got rodgers, and let him call his own plays, I think even I would be drinking that kool aide lol.
Or just get him, and even with boy genius calling plays, it would be so much different.

Wilson is a step down, but can still run it, and it would be interesting too. I also think Russell is smart enough
to call his own plays.

I know I am dreaming, but it is off season, and it is a exciting day dream lol.

As far as the money, Rodgers would probably bend on that if he wanted to come here, and thats
why letting him run the offense and call his own plays might get him to come here cheap, on a 2 year deal.

Why would Jerry replace Dak with an old *** playoff choke artist like Rodgers???

I like Wilson, but he's not going to be too much better than what Dak can be. Im not saying Dak is better than Wilson, but he hasn't done anything of significance without the LOB intact.

But absolutely hell no to Rodgers!!!

 

[kskboys]

Why would Jerry replace Dak with an old *** playoff choke artist like Rodgers???

I like Wilson, but he's not going to be too much better than what Dak can be. Im not saying Dak is better than Wilson, but he hasn't done anything of significance without the LOB intact.

But absolutely hell no to Rodgers!!!

Russ is 33 YOA, and I think he's close to done. His ability depends on the ability to scramble, and his legs looked to me as if they're losing their springiness.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

At this point, it's fact, not a theory

so if its a fact then gettign Rodgers at 50M, means no rings, so why sign Rodgers if its a fact that we won't win a superbowl

 

[kskboys]

so if its a fact then gettign Rodgers at 50M, means no rings, so why sign Rodgers if its a fact that we won't win a superbowl

The teams paying those large amounts for QBs are not winning super bowls.

If we pay Rodgers 50 mil, yes, winning a super bowl is in all likelihood out the window.

So why would Jerry do it? Because he doesn't get it and has a GM who is dumber'n horse doodoo and isn't smart enough to realize that it's not the answer.

 

[JonesBoys]

Ok first I know we cant force trade Dak, but if he wanted to be traded, it could be done.

The solution is to bring in Rodgers or Wilson, and tell Dak your now the Bkup dude
If he wants to sit on bench for most of season he can collect his check. But I think Dak would want to be
traded, so he would then pick a team and they could get a trade done , if that team wanted him.

I may be wrong but if he was traded, he could redo his deal/ contract to make it happen.

Now I hear that jerry likes attention, keep the team in the news, keep team relevant ! I hear this almost daily here.
What would make dallas the most relevant and talked about team?
Well getting Rodgers #1 or Wilson # 2 ! If he got Rodgers, jerry would have 100's of media wanting to talk to him, internet would explode !

And Rodgers is I think undefeated in ATT, and said he loves playing there. He is older now
and would probably love playing in a comfy dome for 8-9 games, and only a few outdoor games.

He would have some good WR , good RB, and if jerry let him be the oc/play caller/qb , the offense would
probably be awesome.

Jerry wants a SB, or at least champ game, and which scenario has best chance to succeed?
Dak/kellen
Rodgers/Rodgers

I think a guy like Rodgers should be calling his own plays anyway, he is smart enough, and has many years
of experience, he doesnt need anyone to call his plays.

If jerry got rodgers, and let him call his own plays, I think even I would be drinking that kool aide lol.
Or just get him, and even with boy genius calling plays, it would be so much different.

Wilson is a step down, but can still run it, and it would be interesting too. I also think Russell is smart enough
to call his own plays.

I know I am dreaming, but it is off season, and it is a exciting day dream lol.

As far as the money, Rodgers would probably bend on that if he wanted to come here, and thats
why letting him run the offense and call his own plays might get him to come here cheap, on a 2 year deal.

So two players will take up about 70 million in cap space? You know Rogers wants around 50 million? Your scenario with Dak as a backup has a zero % chance of happening. Hell even getting Rogers or Russell here and trading Dak probably has a 1% chance of happening. But I guess this is this the off season when fairytales come out.

 

[DandyDon52]

So two players will take up about 70 million in cap space? You know Rogers wants around 50 million? Your scenario with Dak as a backup has a zero % chance of happening. Hell even getting Rogers or Russell here and trading Dak probably has a 1% chance of happening. But I guess this is this the off season when fairytales come out.

it helps if you read the thread posts lol.
I would not pay rodgers 50 mil, I think 30 would do it.
And yeah it wont happen jerry doesnt have the brains or kahunas

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The teams paying those large amounts for QBs are not winning super bowls.

If we pay Rodgers 50 mil, yes, winning a super bowl is in all likelihood out the window.

So why would Jerry do it? Because he doesn't get it and has a GM who is dumber'n horse doodoo and isn't smart enough to realize that it's not the answer.

now, the question one begs if the stats are true that Mahomes will never win another superbowl given his contract average of 45M, which would need a salary cap of 300M to be less than 15%.... so do you not sign a mahomes to an extension? or for that matter Brady? Rodgers? Burrows?

so, although on the surface its true, but people sometimes don't do the math the right way. they take contract average and devide it by the very first year of the cap and calaculate the percentage for the life of the contract and argue that way. that's like dividng apples by oranges and getting Kiwi as a result. they are all fruit, but not the same.

and keep in mind those are different type of numbers that are always fluid.

the fact is cap goes up. so that percentage, even if its based on average is going to drop.

also cap hit annually changes. for example last year, Dak's cap hit was 17M, which was less than 10% of the cap. people screamed 40M, 40M but at 17M cap hit, it didn't stop us from signing anybody we wanted to, its to your point signing the right players that's key and that's been Jerry's problem.

this year Dak's cap hit is 34M. that's about 16.3% of the expected cap space for next year, but I am sure it was structured to be renegotiated and l think it will drop to the 22M range. so it will make the cap hit about 10.5%. even if it doesn't drop that far, so maybe 25M, that would still make it 12%.

now, you may think I am defending Dak. I am not. I am just debunking some of this cap related theories. on the surface it maybe true, perhaps any year a QB has 15%+ cap hit, they don't win the superbowl. but in reality we should be looking at the cap hit in a given year against the salary cap.

keep in mind if the cap jumps by 50-80M as expected (or more), then all the precentage even based on average just become irrelevant...

 

[Bobhaze]

anything can be worked out on that front.

And I said he would have to want to come here, and if you gave him control of offense, call his own plays that would be enticing.
Playing in a Dome is a big plus too.
Also a weak div,
and on the most watched team in football.
Rodgers could probably ask for a raise from state farm if he came here. He would be a bigger star instantly.

Why would Rodgers or Wilson choose Dallas over organizations that know what they’re doing? Yes, we have some talent. But the dysfunction here would probably scare off any veteran star QB who only wants to win a ring. Wish it weren’t true, but guys like Brady, Rodgers, Wilson…any QB with a drive to win a ring now just wouldn’t want to come here.

Until real changes are made at the top, this franchise is all sizzle and no steak. As designed by the owner. I wish it wasn’t true, but this franchise is not a “destination” for star QBs.

 

[JonesBoys]

it helps if you read the thread posts lol.
I would not pay rodgers 50 mil, I think 30 would do it.
And yeah it wont happen jerry doesnt have the brains or kahunas

I did read it. Rogers isn't paying for 30 million but I guess in the fairytale your spinning anything can happen. Why stop there? Maybe they can trade a 6th rounder for Debbo Samuel. Or Jensen from TB will take a huge discount and play for the minimum here. Tarde two 7th rounders for Myles Garrett and ask he take a pay cut. Also sign JC Jackson on a cheap prove it deal. Go for it all!

 

[Alexander]

Why would Rodgers or Wilson choose Dallas over organizations that know what they’re doing? Yes, we have some talent. But the dysfunction here would probably scare off any veteran star QB who only wants to win a ring.

I feel comfortable in saying our fans think this is a destination franchise far more than the players do.

 

[BourbonBalz]

So we’re now talking about Monopoly NFL? We can’t afford to sign backup TEs, but we want to discuss signing another QB that will want more money than we’re already playing Dak? LOL.

 

[75boyz]

Why would Rodgers or Wilson choose Dallas over organizations that know what they’re doing? Yes, we have some talent. But the dysfunction here would probably scare off any veteran star QB who only wants to win a ring. Wish it weren’t true, but guys like Brady, Rodgers, Wilson…any QB with a drive to win a ring now just wouldn’t want to come here.

Until real changes are made at the top, this franchise is all sizzle and no steak. As designed by the owner. I wish it wasn’t true, but this franchise is not a “destination” for star QBs.

While this post may be true I still find it somewhat contradictory to be critical of DandyDon52's hypothetical post here and then have your own hypothetical post lauding the all in approach of the Rams whose all in included replacing their QB.

So, if all in is the way to go, then that would include replacing the QB to better the team. Not settling for a conditional all in.

I may have been wrong but I thought your post was a go big or go home premise which could have included Dandy's thought process here on QB replacement.

Just my opinion as always.

 

[DandyDon52]

While this post may be true I still find it somewhat contradictory to be critical of DandyDon52's hypothetical post here and then have your own hypothetical post lauding the all in approach of the Rams whose all in included replacing their QB.

So, if all in is the way to go, then that would include replacing the QB to better the team. Not settling for a conditional all in.

I may have been wrong but I thought your post was a go big or go home premise which could have included Dandy's thought process here on QB replacement.

Just my opinion as always.

Thanks 75, most dont read the op or posts in the thread. I think bob did though.
What I would like to see is the cowboys play to win in the offseason they usually play it safe and to not lose, which is why they are so bad in playoffs.
The Rams made moves for 2-3 seasons, knowing it was risky, but if you dont try you wont be in any SB's.

Cards made some moves, but they didnt work out too well, but at least they tried.

 

[DandyDon52]

Why would Rodgers or Wilson choose Dallas over organizations that know what they’re doing? Yes, we have some talent. But the dysfunction here would probably scare off any veteran star QB who only wants to win a ring. Wish it weren’t true, but guys like Brady, Rodgers, Wilson…any QB with a drive to win a ring now just wouldn’t want to come here.

Until real changes are made at the top, this franchise is all sizzle and no steak. As designed by the owner. I wish it wasn’t true, but this franchise is not a “destination” for star QBs.

Well they probably would not come here, but if jones boys dont try then you never know.

I stated in op I think and in other posts, I would offer rodgers calling his own plays, be in chg of offense, and some say in any offensive players
they might be in a position to draft. If he would sign short deal say 2 years at 30 mil.
I think he would like that, plus he likes playing in ATT, no more cold weather games except maybe on a road game.

Same thing for wilson, who I didnt see play this year, so dont know how he is playing right now.
Wilson plays in cold and rain, so he might like it in a dome, much easier div opponents,and he might want to call his own plays too.

 

[75boyz]

Thanks 75, most dont read the op or posts in the thread. I think bob did though.
What I would like to see is the cowboys play to win in the offseason they usually play it safe and to not lose, which is why they are so bad in playoffs.
The Rams made moves for 2-3 seasons, knowing it was risky, but if you dont try you wont be in any SB's.

Cards made some moves, but they didnt work out too well, but at least they tried.

Oh no prob bro. Im not into the go partially in type offseason's either.
At this point, the Rams ate a big salary chunk of Goff's last year and gave up last year's 3rd rd 101st pick.
They give up this year's 1st rd 32nd pick.
And next year's first as well.

But guess what?
I'm still taking Stafford as a net gain over all of that.

The same way I would take your Rodgers and to a somewhat lesser extent maybe, Wilson as well.

I just wanted to point out how going all in by the Front Office includes everybody.

And ESPECIALLY for this team, the quarterback position who has reached his ceiling.

jmo

 

[Captain-Crash]

if we could get Roger back in his prime, so dumb dak lover would say dak is better than captain comeback.
smh. blind losers.