Jerry You Have 6 Picks To Play With In The 7th

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Would be a total of between 65-75 points on most draft charts - would equate to a mid 4th if we started wheeling and dealing with them.

Gives you a lot of flexibility in targeting players late in the draft.
 

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you can't trade compensatory picks. the other ones maybe. but if he trades some of them for future 6ths, then that's better and perhaps continue to do that and stock pile picks....

Right, which is why i mentioned those three in particular, but i agree with you.
 

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and we know how well he worked out here, huh? Jerra half filed a complaint about how Ratliff was so ailing he could barely play in Dallas and how he in a remarkable turn of events was suddenly deemed halthy for his new team.

And you and othes might disagree and that is your purgatory but I half always thought of Jay the Rat as a journeyman player despite his pro bowls which half of all honorees usually bow out of.

I judge players on the field and the field alone. For a 7th rounder Ratliff was a good player for the Cowboys for quite a few years.
 

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Some see promise in the 7th round. Others just see a draft that went 1 round too long.

you have to look at the promise. teams that succeed get elite and good players in the top rounds, players that are solid and they don't risk those picks (see ravens, SF, Pittsburgh, etc.).

and you have to do your homework and find players in the lower rounds like seattle, patriots, GB, etc. you can't just dismiss it as fat chance these players make it. those who succeed often find the right players in the lower rounds.

tom brady was a 6th rounder. patriots didn't just dismiss a 6th round pick. Marques Coltson was a 7th rounder. There is gems there. you just got to do your homework and keep looking. find one and you are set for 10 years.
 

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I understand the point of bringing up the Rat Crayton and Romo in reguards to why the 7th round can produce players but while making your point you also discredit your point, Crayton in known for his big mouth and his not running the route through in the playoff game against the Giants Rat is a quitter who comes across as if he is bipolar and Tony he is the beautiful nightmare lol
 

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that's contract and injury issues. for a few years when healthy, he was our best DL man and probowler.... how it ended is a different matter. it became a game of egos.

I don't like it when in trying to praise someone we qualify shortcomings with injuries and contract. He either was 1. Great 2. OK or 3. Journeyman

to me Ratliff was No. 3. Somehow, when talk got around to the greats in defensive lines Ratliff's name NEVER come up. but that's just me.
Keep up the otherwise good work, FaninDC
 

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you have to look at the promise. teams that succeed get elite and good players in the top rounds, players that are solid and they don't risk those picks (see ravens, SF, Pittsburgh, etc.).

and you have to do your homework and find players in the lower rounds like seattle, patriots, GB, etc. you can't just dismiss it as fat chance these players make it. those who succeed often find the right players in the lower rounds.

tom brady was a 6th rounder. patriots didn't just dismiss a 6th round pick. Marques Coltson was a 7th rounder. There is gems there. you just got to do your homework and keep looking. find one and you are set for 10 years.


good reply. I like it, though I maintain that for ever Brady there are hundreds who will never make it to the Arena/Canadian leagues, much less the NFL.
 

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I really hope they don't OD on red flagging prospects this year. 7th rd is when they need to take a chance on one or two.
 

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Alot of good solid players you can find inthe late rounds just like you can find in UDFA as well. Like the poster above said you just have to do your homework and know who to pull the trigger on inthe bargin bin. Alot of players aren't going to get drafted due to the record number of Juniors declaring this year

Alot of teams often take projects from smaller schools hoping to catch lightning in a bottle, which if this was me I would still target the big school program guys personally inthe later rounds
 

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Logan Thomas, Stephen Morris or Hingle McCringleberry, with one of those players i'm fine.
 

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The 7th round is like 10 minutes until 2 a.m. on a Sunday morning at Pete's Dualing Piano Bar on Belt Line road when last call is over and you half to pick the redhead with one arm or the blonde with a lazy eye and unsteady on the dance floor.

I cannot recall, save maybe Bill Bates, when we got anything out of the 7th round. and Bates was not even journeyman material for most of his sorry career. (I really don't know if bates was 7th round, but it would seem he should be.)


Damn, Zordon, you like ever thing. And I keep trying to write something you will not like. Here is something you will not like:

Spike Lee as our new GM.

heh
 

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The draft used to be 12 rounds. Rayfield Wright, Larry Brown, Cliff Harris, Drew Pearson.....good players can be had.

12 rounds? that's like 4 days!
I wonder how many readers actually remember that.
 

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I understand the point of bringing up the Rat Crayton and Romo in reguards to why the 7th round can produce players but while making your point you also discredit your point, Crayton in known for his big mouth and his not running the route through in the playoff game against the Giants Rat is a quitter who comes across as if he is bipolar and Tony he is the beautiful nightmare lol

couldn't you say the same things about high profile top round players? its most of these athletes these days. desean Jackson is an idiot. TO was disruptive. dez Bryant ain't a quire boy. aquib talib is on his third team. the list of athletes with issues is long.
 

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good reply. I like it, though I maintain that for ever Brady there are hundreds who will never make it to the Arena/Canadian leagues, much less the NFL.

I agree. NFL is pretty good in identifying talent and they are getting better at it. most of these guys drop because either they are small school, moved around in their positions a lot and never solidified anywhere (jack of all trades master of none), didn't produce because they didn't have the right people around them, they don't seem to have the physical skills, etc. and to your point most will end up out of the league, but when you find one like Sherman or brady or romo then you are set for a good while.
 

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And for those four we probably got (over the years) 300 who did not make the team.;)

There have actually been tons of guys.

Seven rounds is only 220 players. That's a minute fraction of the players eligible for the draft.

Miles Austin, Tony Romo, Ron Leary, Cole Beasley, Ben Bass, Dan Bailey....tons of players in the NFL weren't drafted.
 

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The evaluation process has become very complex, between the combine and other kind of stuff, talent evaluators have lost their sight on the things that really matters: can those players really "play" the game of football?
 
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