Jerry's Pre draft PC about to start on the ticket

[masomenos]

He will be "beheld" by a team in the top 10.

There hasn't been a guard taken in the top 10 in the past decade, I highly doubt Brandon Albert cracks into those first 10 picks.

 

[DFWJC]

Taking Albert @22 would basically be saying that we've missed with McQuistan, Free, Marten, etc.

Not good news.

No, it's just saying he could ultimately be a cornerstone for the next decade. The others (2 or 3 of them) could be there too. I understand that thinking completely....if you think that highly of someone, it may be worth it. If a great corner is there at 22, I would go there though.

I said nearly a month ago, don't be surprised if we go OL early if the right guy is there. We want to protect Tony and we must be able to run the ball....it is huge.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1978163

 

[theogt]

He won't be there.

Maybe. But I doubt any team really sees him as a tackle at the next level and top 20 is a bit high to draft a guard.

I'm not on board with drafting an offensive lineman at all. What are we paying the scouts for? Why did we draft guys like Free and Marten? Davis, Gurode and Adams all have long term deals. Kosier is signed for another two.

A first rounder thrown at the position is overkill.

Free is absolutely not a guard. Marten, maybe, but he's not near the same tier as a guy like Albert. I'm fine with Kosier hanging around, but we have competent starters at every position. None of our first round picks are going to be starters.

 

[masomenos]

I'd guess at Lavelle Hawkins, but he's one of my pets.

I think that's a fair guess too, he's another player I'd like to see.

 

[tomson75]

I see 3 tackles on that list, none of which I'd be excited about playing guard. Albert would be damn near guaranteed a pro bowl guard.

That's true...it's been so long since I've heard a rational person refer to him as a guard I almost forgot he was one.

 

[superpunk]

Maybe. But I doubt any team really sees him as a tackle at the next level and top 20 is a bit high to draft a guard.

Free is absolutely not a guard. Marten, maybe, but he's not near the same tier as a guy like Albert. I'm fine with Kosier hanging around, but we have competent starters at every position. None of our first round picks are going to be starters.

We have two corners, essentially. Your nickel corner is a starter, for all intents and purposes. Meanwhile, 60% of our offensive line is locked up long term, we have a 3rd and 4th round pick that should be projecting to replace Colombo, and a LG that is really no slouch and locked up for another two seasons.

If an elite OL prospect is there, yeah, go for it. I just think there are definitely MUCH better uses for those two picks.

 

[theogt]

We have two corners, essentially. Your nickel corner is a starter, for all intents and purposes. Meanwhile, 60% of our offensive line is locked up long term, we have a 3rd and 4th round pick that should be projecting to replace Colombo, and a LG that is really no slouch and locked up for another two seasons.

If an elite OL prospect is there, yeah, go for it. I just think there are definitely MUCH better uses for those two picks.

We could get a corner AND Albert in the first, though. Like Jerry said, there's not much that differentiates those top 5-6 corners. And I think at least one would be there at our 28 pick, either Talib, Cason, or Flowers.

But one thing's for certain -- you're not going to get a player of Albert's caliber at 28.

 

[tomson75]

No, it's just saying he could ultimately be a cornerstone for the next decade. The others (2 or 3 of them) could be there too. I understand that thinking completely....if you think that highly of someone, it may be worth it. If a great corner is there at 22, I would go there though.

I said nearly a month ago, don't be surprised if we go OL early if the right guy is there. We want to protect Tony and we must be able to run the ball....it is huge.

If we didn't have such gaping holes at CB and will have such a gaping hole at WR shortly, I'd be more than down with taking Albert in the first...but at guard. I'm not sold on him being a tackle at the next level. He has to PROVE that he can play there at the NFL level. Our OL is a strength for the most part. It needs to be addressed often, but not at the expense of needs as big as ours at CB.

 

[ZeroClub]

Maybe. But I doubt any team really sees him as a tackle at the next level and top 20 is a bit high to draft a guard.

Free is absolutely not a guard. Marten, maybe, but he's not near the same tier as a guy like Albert. I'm fine with Kosier hanging around, but we have competent starters at every position. None of our first round picks are going to be starters.

Yup.

The Cowboys have painted themselves into (drafting) a corner, but other than that, the Cowboys have enough wiggle room to invest a first day pick or two on the best player(s) available.

 

[Angus]

He won't be there.

I'm not on board with drafting an offensive lineman at all. What are we paying the scouts for? Why did we draft guys like Free and Marten? Davis, Gurode and Adams all have long term deals. Kosier is signed for another two.

A first rounder thrown at the position is overkill.

Best Player Available

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm not so sure the corner group is as deep as Jerry said, though, when you consider some off-the-field questions.

Put me down as hoping we don't use a high pick on an OL. We need a backup center, but that's about it IMO. McQ or Marten might make a decent guard if we needed one, but Kosier is okay for now.

I doubt Albert is there anyway. Which means he can push another good player down to us.

 

[superpunk]

Here's Jerry's press conference from last year, wonderfully recapped by theogt.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85909

Just interesting to compare what actually happened to what he talked about.

 

[Chief]

Best Player Available

Exactly.

If by some miracle Brandon Albert is sitting there at 22, then Jerry has to strongly consider picking him. Not because Dallas needs a guard, but because he's the best player available.

And, Albert is considered a tackle prospect by some teams. He has the size, long arms and feet to be a Pro Bowl left tackle.

 

[Rampage]

right in the begining he was talking about the options of having 2 1st round picks and almost forgot to say "staying put" so were trading atleast 1 of them.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Jerry has looked for "Wow", but not from Chad

1:24 PM Tue, Apr 22, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Albert Breer E-mail News tips

Contrary to what's been out there, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says he has not made a call to Cincinnati to inquire about star receiver Chad Johnson.

He was pretty succinct too. "No" is how he flatly answered the question. But Jerry did say that he has asked another team about the availability of a star receiver. And the smart money says that was either A) Detroit (Roy Williams) or B) Arizona (Anquan Boldin).

"I wouldn't give who it was, but the answer is yes. We have talked (with another team)," Jones said. "I wouldn't give you a timeframe on it either, if you're talking the last week or the last few days. But certainly since (the start of) the offseason."

Jones also left open the possibility that a draft day trade could be made. Whether that's for Boldin or Williams or someone else, who knows? What did seem certain, especially in Jones' mind, was that a "No!" now could be a "Sure" on Saturday. That's just the way these things go, with teams more willing to deal veterans the closer you get to the draft.

"Unquestionably, now and on the clock, but really on the clock during draft day," Jones said. "It is an important time to get the most value for a veteran player, if he's in demand. If I'm the team that's got the player, my best time to move is right then. And the minute the draft is over, picks don't have anywhere near the value and everyone's protecting the players they've got.

"It's amazing at how the perception of these rookie players diminish, minutes after the draft and how it's going to take a lot of work to even get them on the field, when minutes before, they were going to be saving the franchise."

So what to make of all this?

Well, let's put it this way -- If there's a player Detroit or Arizona really likes available at 22 or 28, don't rule out the possibility that Boldin or Williams could be dealt on draft day. Williams is up after this year, and Boldin's got a below-market contract that he wants redone. So either of those teams could save themselves headaches and, perhaps, get value for their star players by dealing them then.

And for those teams, chances are perspective will be quite a bit different with the pressure of a time element thrown into the mix.

 

[ddh33]

I would love to have one of those receivers. I can't hardly imagine a first round pick being put to better use than one of those guys.

 

[Hoofbite]

oh i hate this week.

hurry up.

 

[Chief]

Jerry has looked for "Wow", but not from Chad

1:24 PM Tue, Apr 22, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Albert Breer E-mail News tips

Contrary to what's been out there, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says he has not made a call to Cincinnati to inquire about star receiver Chad Johnson.

He was pretty succinct too. "No" is how he flatly answered the question. But Jerry did say that he has asked another team about the availability of a star receiver. And the smart money says that was either A) Detroit (Roy Williams) or B) Arizona (Anquan Boldin).

"I wouldn't give who it was, but the answer is yes. We have talked (with another team)," Jones said. "I wouldn't give you a timeframe on it either, if you're talking the last week or the last few days. But certainly since (the start of) the offseason."

Jones also left open the possibility that a draft day trade could be made. Whether that's for Boldin or Williams or someone else, who knows? What did seem certain, especially in Jones' mind, was that a "No!" now could be a "Sure" on Saturday. That's just the way these things go, with teams more willing to deal veterans the closer you get to the draft.

"Unquestionably, now and on the clock, but really on the clock during draft day," Jones said. "It is an important time to get the most value for a veteran player, if he's in demand. If I'm the team that's got the player, my best time to move is right then. And the minute the draft is over, picks don't have anywhere near the value and everyone's protecting the players they've got.

"It's amazing at how the perception of these rookie players diminish, minutes after the draft and how it's going to take a lot of work to even get them on the field, when minutes before, they were going to be saving the franchise."

So what to make of all this?

Well, let's put it this way -- If there's a player Detroit or Arizona really likes available at 22 or 28, don't rule out the possibility that Boldin or Williams could be dealt on draft day. Williams is up after this year, and Boldin's got a below-market contract that he wants redone. So either of those teams could save themselves headaches and, perhaps, get value for their star players by dealing them then.

And for those teams, chances are perspective will be quite a bit different with the pressure of a time element thrown into the mix.

That all sounds promising.

I just hope Napoleon Snyder and his crazy-eyed sidekick don't jump in and start offering mutiple first-round picks and ruin everything.

 

[tomson75]

"It's amazing at how the perception of these rookie players diminish, minutes after the draft and how it's going to take a lot of work to even get them on the field, when minutes before, they were going to be saving the franchise."

No joke. I mean, Albert was basically unheard of by most people 3 months ago. A few guys had him going around the third round in the draft, and now I'm seeing people claim he's going to be a "Pro Bowl Left Tackle".

He's played three games at tackle people. Hype much?

 

[superpunk]

No joke. I mean, Albert was basically unheard of by most people 3 months ago. A few guys had him going around the third round in the draft, and now I'm seeing people claim he's going to be a "Pro Bowl Left Tackle".

He's played three games at tackle people. Hype much?

It's pronk-surd.