CFZ Jerry's reluctance to go all in

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Great? I'd call it a complete flop. Didn't get us anywhere and cost us other player possibilities due to his huge contract. Terrible trade that didn't work out at all.
Hence JJ’s reluctance to waste resources
 

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He’s afraid of himself. I agree with him.

What exactly is going for it? Eagles completely sold out. Is that what you mean?

And you take on what Jerry meant is overboard. You’re being dramatic.
The eagles did everything in their power to create a championship team while not compromising their future one bit as they still have multiple first-round draft picks.

Jerry is so clueless when talking about their situation it's very embarrassing.

How can he as our general manager not be aware of what they have to work with in the draft and say they've emptied the bucket.

As much as I absolutely hate to say it they are really a perfect example of how to build a team and still hold on to your draft picks.

I'm not being dramatic at all just very realistic Jerry refuses to do what's necessary to win a championship or even get there The proof is in the last 27 years.
 

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So what do you think guys what do we do this off-season.

Do we sit here on this forum and bench race all the scenarios debate what we need to do how we need to do it.

Then when the season comes we watch the eagles use their first round picks intelligently stockpile free agents and make another run at the super bowl while Jerry sits on his hands plays Ebenezer Scrooge and won't go for ice water in the free agent market.

I for one have grown tired of seeing our division rival be able to tear down and rebuild their team with different coaches different quarterbacks and go to super bowls while we just wallow in the mier of Jerry's ineptitude and fear of not being relevant
 

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The eagles did everything in their power to create a championship team while not compromising their future one bit as they still have multiple first-round draft picks.

Jerry is so clueless when talking about their situation it's very embarrassing.

How can he as our general manager not be aware of what they have to work with in the draft and say they've emptied the bucket.

As much as I absolutely hate to say it they are really a perfect example of how to build a team and still hold on to your draft picks.

I'm not being dramatic at all just very realistic Jerry refuses to do what's necessary to win a championship or even get there The proof is in the last 27 years.
Emptied the bucket? A roster full of young talent and two first round picks in the next draft says Jerry is stupid.
 

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The eagles did everything in their power to create a championship team while not compromising their future one bit as they still have multiple first-round draft picks.

Jerry is so clueless when talking about their situation it's very embarrassing.

How can he as our general manager not be aware of what they have to work with in the draft and say they've emptied the bucket.

As much as I absolutely hate to say it they are really a perfect example of how to build a team and still hold on to your draft picks.

I'm not being dramatic at all just very realistic Jerry refuses to do what's necessary to win a championship or even get there The proof is in the last 27 years.
didnt compromise their future? Clearly you dont understand what they did.

next year they are in purgatory and losing at least a third of their team. Now they have to pay hurts and the window is over. They essentially have to rebuild the defense.

jerry is clueless but his comment that they went for it all and will pay the piper is spot on.

however with those picks it will reduce the timeline depending on how good they are managed.
 

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So what do you think guys what do we do this off-season.

Do we sit here on this forum and bench race all the scenarios debate what we need to do how we need to do it.

Then when the season comes we watch the eagles use their first round picks intelligently stockpile free agents and make another run at the super bowl while Jerry sits on his hands plays Ebenezer Scrooge and won't go for ice water in the free agent market.

I for one have grown tired of seeing our division rival be able to tear down and rebuild their team with different coaches different quarterbacks and go to super bowls while we just wallow in the mier of Jerry's ineptitude and fear of not being relevant
you complain about Jerry not doing what he needs to make a true contender. very smart, it’s true. Jerry sucks.

then in the next breath your blaming dak for everything. Can’t have it both ways.
 

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I will celebrate that man's death. Don't @ me.
Come on man, talk like that is uncalled for.

This is just freaking entertainment, its not a matter of life or death and wishing for somebody to die so your team can win a couple more games....

Wow............that is just so ****** messed up.:facepalm:
 

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Come on man, talk like that is uncalled for.

This is just freaking entertainment, its not a matter of life or death and wishing for somebody to die so your team can win a couple more games....

Wow............that is just so ****** messed up.:facepalm:
I never said I wished he'd die. I said when he does, I'll celebrate it. I truly don't care what you, a stranger, thinks about that.
 

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How should we take this as fans most of us have adjusted our expectations but I don't think any of us really planned on us never going to do enough to win a championship for fear of not being relevant for a couple years.

This is where we stand our owner and GM is not going to be active in free agency or aggressive enough to get us over the top he is very much satisfied with just making the playoffs and staying relevant.

I adjusted my expectations long ago knowing his limitations as a general manager but now it's even more than that it's not his lack of skill but it's his fear of staying relevant.
Worse yet he doesn't even really know the condition of the teams that he speaks about when comparing the eagles and the Rams One team really emptying the bucket and the other having plenty of first-round draft picks to continue to bolster their team.

When you're winning 12 games a season it should be a great time to be a Cowboys fan but when you know that that is the absolute ceiling with maybe a playoff win you can't help but feel despondent

We continue to soldier on we stay the course we root for the laundry but it's all an exercise and futility with an owner and GM that just won't do what's necessary and go the extra mile to get us over the top.
His reluctance to go all in has nothing to do with the failure. His reluctance to step down is the real issue.
 

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Jerry used to go all in all the time. I remember when we signed Anthony Miller, Quentin Coryatt, and Steve Entman.

We went 7-9.
Quentin Coryatt played in Dallas in 1999. Anthony Miller played in Dallas 2 years earlier in 1997. I don’t recall Entman in Dallas at all.
But I understand your point.
 

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The eagles did everything in their power to create a championship team while not compromising their future one bit as they still have multiple first-round draft picks.

Jerry is so clueless when talking about their situation it's very embarrassing.

How can he as our general manager not be aware of what they have to work with in the draft and say they've emptied the bucket.

As much as I absolutely hate to say it they are really a perfect example of how to build a team and still hold on to your draft picks.

I'm not being dramatic at all just very realistic Jerry refuses to do what's necessary to win a championship or even get there The proof is in the last 27 years.
There is more to compromising the future than just draft picks. The eagles keep creating more and more dead money. They could have 45m of it on the books on 23. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with their approach at maximizing and elongating their window, but they have borrowed from future cap .
 

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I have the feel of a Garrett diminishing team in this mix...old and mostly eye relish.
 

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Jerry used to go all in all the time. I remember when we signed Anthony Miller, Quentin Coryatt, and Steve Entman.

We went 7-9.

So obviously don’t go all in when the team sucks. That’s the sad part here. The “GM” can’t recognize the distinction!
 

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well when u said the term "all in" Jerry was thinking u said "extend" as a request....had nuthin to do with football. pretty sure he wasn't reluctant...just sayin...
 

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I have no problem with Jerry getting rid of Cooper but telegraphing to the whole league that you're dissatisfied with him and only getting a ham sandwich when you could have probably gotten a third round pick was just plain stupid
Real GM's like Roseman dont tell the world anything.

Did anyone even have the slightest inclination that AJ Brown would be an Eagle on draft night?

Nope.

What does our FO do? Tells the NFL world Cooper will be released if he isn't traded to generate "a bidding war" LOL
 

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I have no problem with Jerry getting rid of Cooper but telegraphing to the whole league that you're dissatisfied with him and only getting a ham sandwich when you could have probably gotten a third round pick was just plain stupid
Yeah, he should've gotten more for him if he was going to let him go
The market solidified soon after Cooper was traded, and it was higher than the Cowboys planned, clearly
 

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didnt compromise their future? Clearly you dont understand what they did.

next year they are in purgatory and losing at least a third of their team. Now they have to pay hurts and the window is over. They essentially have to rebuild the defense.

jerry is clueless but his comment that they went for it all and will pay the piper is spot on.

however with those picks it will reduce the timeline depending on how good they are managed.
Who cares? They went to the Superbowl. We haven't even been to the NFC Championship in 28 years. If you want to get there you have to be willing to pay.
 

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Who cares? They went to the Superbowl. We haven't even been to the NFC Championship in 28 years. If you want to get there you have to be willing to pay.
You’re not understanding. I’m all for spending more. Getting to SB and losing doesn’t cut it.

Eagles will now pay for their over go for it strategy.

No need to be desperate. Being a legit contender for 5 or 6 years is better than going for it all one year like eagles did.

We can go for it, but not as desperately as they did.

If cowboys play giants in 2nd round they make championship game. And if they play SF with purdy going down in first quarter they win that game also.
 
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