Jets release players

[AbeBeta]

Whatever happened to bringing up your own players?

Well, we really don't know what we are doing at RG -- we may cut Allen and play Peterman there.

I'm all for getting younger -- we need to make sure Drew doesn't get killed while we are at it.

 

[Rush 2112]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't want any more of Parcells' former players. It's almost like he believes no one else out there can play for him. Something about that bothers me.

Richie, Bledsoe, Key, Glenn, Glenn, Ferguson have all worked out very well.

Ogbogu filled his role.

Ryan Young didn't work out but it wasn't a big signing.

Where else has he wiffed on one of his guys.

Henry was not one of his guys and he got more money than any one else.

Rivera was not one of his guys and he got 2nd or 3rd most money.

Having product knowledge on players has saved us serious coin.

A high percentage of players internet fans wanted to sign have been huge mistakes in FA.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well, we really don't know what we are doing at RG -- we may cut Allen and play Peterman there.

I'm all for getting younger -- we need to make sure Drew doesn't get killed while we are at it.

The fact is the guy (Bledsoe) is prone to sacks no matter WHO you have on the offensive line. And in some circles having Bledsoe "get killed" might not be the worst thing in the world-- maybe we'd have some idea of what we have behind him.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

So, all those opposed, where do you suggest Dallas look for a RT? The FA tackle options are just dreary. Fabini is probably as good as any of those, plus he has history with Parcells. He is, without a doubt, better than Petitti right now.

I guess some would say draft, but I see some on here (Winicki) that don't want Fabini AND don't want to draft a guy. How are you planning on upgrading RT?

Signing Fabini doesn't preclude you from drafting a guy either. I doubt a rookie tackle is going to step in and be effective from Day 1. Give him a buffer with a vet.

Agree... Parcells once said that the offensive line can dictate the attitude of not just your offense, but your entire team. I suspect he's sick and tired -- and probably a little embarrassed -- at the sorry state of the O line since... Well, ever since he got here.

I think we saturate the O line much like cornerback last year and get the thing fixed once and for all. If a pretty good player has to sit the bench because of it, so what... We could use the depth anyway. IMO a guy like Tucker shouldn't even be on the team, much less playing for us.

 

[Yeagermeister]

The fact is the guy (Bledsoe) is prone to sacks no matter WHO you have on the offensive line. And in some circles having Bledsoe "get killed" might not be the worst thing in the world-- maybe we'd have some idea of what we have behind him.

I'm pretty sure I know where we'd be without Bledsoe......not in the playoffs

 

[MissionCoach]

I would rather sign Kevin Barry instead of Fabini. He is only 26 years old and should not be very expensive. Let Barry and Pettitti fight it out for the starting RT position.

Barry is an interesting player, not a proven commodity, but does have the potential to be a very good sign. Of course BP's ties to Fabini almost guarantee him a roster spot with the Boy's. I'm not against Fabini, he is a definite upgrade over what we have on the roster. I'm just wondering if we can do even better than Fabini in FA.

 

[Rush 2112]

Yep.

And having 4, 30+ year-olds on the o-line scares the **** out of me because it will have all to be rebuilt in a season or two.

Whatever happened to bringing up your own players?

Hasn't anyone learned from the mistakes the Commanders made.

Flo blows out his knee again in August, who's your LT?

You some guy we draft in the 2nd round?

Great, now we're protecting him and Petiti.

Welcome to 9-7 again.

We needed quality OT depth when Flo was completely healthy, but now we don't?

I'm not going to bother running off the names of 25-30 guys we're bringing up on our own.

Just so happens OL is more difficult than most positions.

On top of that we've had 3 major injury issues with our OL draft picks since BP has been here.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm pretty sure I know where we'd be without Bledsoe......not in the playoffs

Oh, like this year.

And the team Bledsoe was on the year before...

And the year before...

And the year before...

One might call this a "pattern".

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Flo blows out his knee again in August, who's your LT?

You some guy we draft in the 2nd round?

Great, now we're protecting him and Petiti.

Welcome to 9-7 again.

We needed quality OT depth when Flo was completely healthy, but now we don't?

I'm not going to bother running off the names of 25-30 guys we're bringing up on our own.

Just so happens OL is more difficult than most positions.

On top of that we've had 3 major injury issues with our OL draft picks since BP has been here.

What happens if Bledose goes down?

Or Newman?

Or Ware?

Or Glenn?

Or Roy?

The fact is you just can't make allowances for everyone.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't want any more of Parcells' former players. It's almost like he believes no one else out there can play for him. Something about that bothers me.

It's not just you.

But I try to look at each player seperately and see if they can help the team.

If they can help the team then I really do not care where they come from.

The idea of Fabini IMO would be for a temp start, to help teach or flat out depth.

And if we get into trouble like we did this past season I would not mind a guy with exp sitting in the background in case our starters struggle again.
My hope is we get another OT or the ones already on our roster step up...but after last year I would not mind some exp depth.

 

[Hostile]

Richie, Bledsoe, Key, Glenn, Glenn, Ferguson have all worked out very well.

Ogbogu filled his role.

Ryan Young didn't work out but it wasn't a big signing.

Where else has he wiffed on one of his guys.

Henry was not one of his guys and he got more money than any one else.

Rivera was not one of his guys and he got 2nd or 3rd most money.

Having product knowledge on players has saved us serious coin.

A high percentage of players internet fans wanted to sign have been huge mistakes in FA.

What else ya got? Of those players the only one I really have any devotion to is Glenn, and that devotion is on borrowed time. I like Key more than I thought I would, but if he left so what. I like Bledsoe, but wouldn't cry if he were gone either. I'm so glad Richie is gone. I didn't care for him at all.

Oh wait, I forget, I don't know as much as Parcells so I should just keep my mouth shut.

Yeah, like that's going to happen.

His former players with the Jets and Patriots are now past their prime for the most part. By all means let's go get a bunch of guys past their prime on the cheap. We all know that's winning football strategy.

Give me a huge break. I don't get the Geritol attraction. If that doesn't sit well with you, I suppose we'll get over it.

Subdivisions...
In the Free Agent wars...
In the sports bars...
Subdivisions.

:wink2:

 

[Dough Boy]

Oh, like this year.

And the team Bledsoe was on the year before...

And the year before...

And the year before...

One might call this a "pattern".

Or your bashing of Bledsoe could be misconstrued as a pattern? By the way, if we now make the Playoffs this year, is Bledsoe to deserve all the credit since you are now bestowing upon him all the ales of not making the playoffs.

I thought this football thing was one of the great team sports.

 

[Hostile]

It's not just you.

But I try to look at each player seperately and see if they can help the team.

If they can help the team then I really do not care where they come from.

The idea of Fabini IMO would be for a temp start, to help teach or flat out depth.

And if we get into trouble like we did this past season I would not mind a guy with exp sitting in the background in case our starters struggle again.
My hope is we get another OT or the ones already on our roster step up...but after last year I would not mind some exp depth.

Is Fabini the only OT out there this year though? Can a younger version be found?

My distaste is tied to the fact we seem to ignore players simply because there are no ties to Parcells. It doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

 

[Dough Boy]

Is Fabini the only OT out there this year though? Can a younger version be found?

My distaste is tied to the fact we seem to ignore players simply because there are no ties to Parcells. It doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

Hos,

I know you like Rob potential, so I pose this question. If you do bring in the younger version, does that compromise Rob's growth. Rob could learn from Fabini. He could bide his time and learn the game from a real pro. I think if we go younger, that would be a clear indication that Rob is not a long term answer. If we go with a Fabini at a reasonable price, that would be more of an indication that Rob has real growth potential.

 

[Rush 2112]

What happens if Bledose goes down?

Or Newman?

Or Ware?

Or Glenn?

Or Roy?

The fact is you just can't make allowances for everyone.

Well, some positions kinda rank higher on the importance factor.

Covered ourselves at CB and WR last year.

Ware's backup was on IR and we'll add depth there.

Kinda left ourselves twising in the wind at OT.

What's more important an experienced starting RT or the backup to any guy you mentioned?

That's a complete no brainer.

 

[iceberg]

I'm pretty sure I know where we'd be without Bledsoe......not in the playoffs

you mean like we were with carter?

trouble with using 1 guideilne as your measuring stick is it doesn't always work in your favor.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well, some positions kinda rank higher on the importance factor.

Covered ourselves at CB and WR last year.

Ware's backup was on IR and we'll add depth there.

Kinda left ourselves twising in the wind at OT.

What's more important an experienced starting RT or the backup to any guy you mentioned?

That's a complete no brainer.

OK if it were a "no brainer" where was the "experienced back up" last year?

 

[InmanRoshi]

His former players with the Jets and Patriots are now past their prime for the most part. By all means let's go get a bunch of guys past their prime on the cheap. We all know that's winning football strategy.

It certainly is. Belichick won his first Superbowl doing it.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Is Fabini the only OT out there this year though? Can a younger version be found?

My distaste is tied to the fact we seem to ignore players simply because there are no ties to Parcells. It doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

You mean guys like eddie george, marco rivera, Henry and Peerless Price?

The thing about older vs younger.

IF you can find a younger guy with good upside, chances are you are going to pay for him.

Then you have the argument I see many others use, why don't we cultivate the players we have...we do have young guys at OT right now.

So I would like the idea of getting an older vet who will play at a cheap price and would be willing to sit on the bench as a backup while the young guys get their chances.

I really do not have a hangup about the situation myself. If a player can help the team I am all for bringing them in no matter the ties to bill or no ties to bill.

As I said before my hope is that either the young OTs we already have on the roster step up, or we get someone worthy in the draft.

But after last years situation I would not mind a vet with EXP waiting in the wings if he comes cheap...and I am not going to be down on him just because he had played with bill before.

After all of that I said, I don't think we will bring him in, his injury and performance because of injuries over the last couple of years have not been up to par and I think bill learned his lesson with injury problems with the last guy he brought in.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Or your bashing of Bledsoe could be misconstrued as a pattern? By the way, if we now make the Playoffs this year, is Bledsoe to deserve all the credit since you are now bestowing upon him all the ales of not making the playoffs.

I thought this football thing was one of the great team sports.

Yep. It's a pattern.

I'm not happy with the 15th rated QB in the NFL.

If the Cowboys make the playoffs I'll give Bledsoe credit for doing so.

I've never been afraid of standing up and being counted.