Jets release players

[Rush 2112]

Stop making sense BP.

 

[aikemirv]

From the CBA

ARTICLE XXII



WAIVER SYSTEM

Section 1. Release:

(a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period. If the waivers occur after that time, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club. However, if such player is claimed and awarded, he shall have the option to declare himself an Unrestricted Free Agent at the end of the League Year in question if he has a no-trade clause in his Player Contract. If such player does not have a no-trade clause and the Player Contract being awarded through waivers covers more than one additional season, the player shall have the right to declare himself an Unrestricted Free Agent as set forth above at the end of the League Year following the League Year in which he is waived and awarded.

(b) Whenever a player who has finished less than the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club.

Section 2. Contact: Coaches or any other persons connected with another NFL Club are prohibited from contacting any player placed on waivers until such time as the player is released by the waiving Club.




They are free to sign with anybody right now!

 

[Clove]

I'm still curious to know how Columbo is doing health wise before looking at another backup OT. If he's healthy, I think he's a huge upgrade over anyone on the roster at tackle(other than Flo) and also Fabini... From most accounts of Columbo it wasn't talent that was the problem it was health issues

In 2004 Colombo started 2 games and gave up 7 sacks. He hasn't played since then...No thanks.... I wouldn't take any of those players cut, I'll hold out for much better.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Are you kidding me?

Rookie 6th round RT, Flo goes down, and a 3 time failure at RT gets moved to LT.

Very confusing.

I understand.

Then if Adams WAS THAT IMPORTANT why didn't we have better depth behind him?

 

[superpunk]

Aarron Glenn was brought in for depth purposes. What a lifesaver he was once Henry went down. Keyshawn and Glenn have been more than I hoped for when they were signed. Same with Bledsoe. Richie Anderson was about our best player on offense when he played. Ferguson was solid last year. I don't see the problem with the Parcells retreads.

I agree with Bpaint that Bill does not discriminate against younger players. He started a 6th round rookie this year for goodness sakes! He's been giving Bradie James time into the lineup for the past three years, and it's finally paying off. Ware and Davis were new starters on our defense, Newman played from the get-go. He drafted Witten, planned on playing Julius right away, Canty and Spears got extensive time this year. Burnett probably would have, and he got decent time once he recovered.

I just don't get where the hatred for Bill's former players, coupled with the myth that he won't play young players, comes from? Maybe it's because so many people hoped so much for Henson? And they resent Drew for "holding him back", or whatever. I know I felt that way in the offseason. But, I'm trusting Bill more and more, as I see these moves work out. (Except on the Oline. Little to no trust threre, yet) It requires patience, but things seem to be working out.

 

[Rush 2112]

Like I said in post #93....who Ross Verba or Chris Terry who are still unemployed by the NFL?

Name the guy we should have signed or drafted.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's a decent enough bet, since he does have that track record. But, that's just speculating. Fact is, the difference in production of our offense pre and post Flozell injury is staggering. Was the drop solely because of Flozell's injury? Probably not. But, being able to look at that singular event, and the numbers surrounding it, certainly suggests that it had at least a substantial impact on the team's production, Bledsoe included. The Chiefs and Steelers had similar situations when their LTs went down this year, and their offenses suffered mightily for those games. Difference is, they got them back.

Granted Adams loss hurt this offense... but you think back to the playoffs this year.

What team outside of Chicago had a worse starting QB than we did?

 

[superpunk]

Then if Adams WAS THAT IMPORTANT why didn't we have better depth behind him?

Because we've struck out on the Oline. ALOT. But look at the examples I gave you earlier, of the Chiefs and Steelers. I'm sure they tried to provide depth on their line. But the domino effect from having to adjust for a missing LT, one of the most important positions on the field, was too much to overcome. The difference between their offenses with and without their LTs, was night and day.

 

[Hostile]

No emotion in that post.

How bout a little logic?

How many times have the Cowboys had 2 WR's catch 60+balls?

How many times has that happened with a 60+ catch TE to boot?

How many times has a QB thrown for the yards and TD's Bledsoe did?

With that OL and running game....are you joking.

Richie wasn't a smash mouth FB.

That answers that question.

Who cares who likes who.

Are they good football players is all that matters.

It's not a geritol attraction.

What's the attraction to rolling out young scrubs, guys of lesser talent, or guys before they're ready?

I always post with emotion Mr. Lifeson. I think that and my username are why people always think I'm pissed off.

Are these guys the only 2 WRs who could have caught 60 balls? If not, then why should I be jumping up and down wetting my drawers?

I said I wanted young scrubs? Where? Unless my memory is shot I said I'm not thrilled at the prospect of any more Parcells' guys.

If we are going to address OT in FA I'd rather not get another 30 something guy. Is that okay with you? I mean if I need to I will ask your permission to have my own opinion. I'll hate it.

 

[Dough Boy]

Then if Adams WAS THAT IMPORTANT why didn't we have better depth behind him?

A quick answer is the salary cap.

Its hard to have two starting caliber left tackles on the roster at the same time. The cap just doesn't allow for that. Plus, Flo had never missed a game in his Cowboy career. You MW, when you lay out your roster, you take some calculated risk. Bill took the risk that Flow would remain healthy as he had the prior 8 seasons. Truth be told, we lack depth at a number of positions. If Ware got hurt last season, the entire 3-4 would have been scraped. Even though you don't like Bledsoe, we were thin at QB. I'm not a Bradie fan, but after Dat got hurt, we didn't have another viable answer at ILB.

I just think the salary cap keeps you from stocking piling talent the way we did in the early 90's.

 

[superpunk]

Granted Adams loss hurt this offense... but you think back to the playoffs this year.

What team outside of Chicago had a worse starting QB than we did?

The Buccaneers? The Giants? The Skins? (although Brunell had a hell of a year, behind a healthy Oline....) The Panthers? (It's close, between Delhomme and Bledsoe) What team had a worse Oline than us?

 

[InmanRoshi]

Granted Adams loss hurt this offense... but you think back to the playoffs this year.

What team outside of Chicago had a worse starting QB than we did?

Everyone in the NFC but Seattle.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I just don't get where the hatred for Bill's former players, coupled with the myth that he won't play young players, comes from?

Its just a cliched stereotype. All cliched stereotypes carry two main characteristics.

a) They're intellectually lazy and hold little water upon critical examination.

b) The people who have them rarely give them up, no matter how much information they have to the contrary.

We've had good success rates with the former Parcells player's we've brought in, with the price we got them. If we've struck out anywhere its been with non-Parcells players. If we've ever signed a free agent where there were better options available in the past 3 years, it would be Rivera instead of Wahle.

 

[Dough Boy]

Granted Adams loss hurt this offense... but you think back to the playoffs this year.

What team outside of Chicago had a worse starting QB than we did?

Fair question. About 15. I would put our QB play middle of the road.

But equally fair would be, what team started an undrafted player at Left Tackle, sixth round pick at Right Tackle and the starting right guard underwent offseason back surgery. Add to that, the starting full back, was undrafted as well as underwhelming.

How many other teams can boast such a dubious cast?

 

[BigDFan5]

I hope Dallas goes OT in the first. If Pettitt can beat out McNeil or Justice, we would still need another tackle when Flozell retires. He only has a few more years left.

we wont be taking OLine in the first so expect disappointment

 

[BigDFan5]

Just because it is a stupid thing to do with the #18 pick overall? Just because you can usually get guys that are just as good in the 2nd or 3rd? Just because you could get an actual impact player there instead?

Unless D'Brick is there then none of the guys are worth our pick.

DING DING DING WINNER!!!!

You win an all expence paid trib to CBZ's basement. Stare in amazment as CBZ jumps off his walker and demonstrates why there is a stripper pole in the basement.


This trip does not include meals, drinks, or psychological treatments

 

[junk]

All I can say is "Wow."

I am usually the last one to want to bring in an aging vet as a band aid, but even I am completely on board with this potential signing.

For all of you so vehemently against it, what are your other options?

Fabini is as good as any potential free agent tackle out there. Don't give me this Kevin Barry, Anthony Clement, Ashworth business.

He can and has played both the right and left side. He is better than the two slobs that finished the season right now.

Signing the guy doesn't prevent the team from developing youth. Fabini would be a top notch mentor to Petitti as well as a potential draft pick. Four tackles is not overkill especially if two are established vets and two are young (not to mention that roster sizes may go up this year).

Yes, he has ties to Parcells. What is wrong with the sweetheart deals Dallas got from Bledsoe, Glenn and Glenn for having Parcells ties? I'd go that route again in a heartbeat.

Isn't the point to improve your team? Fabini does that and he should come at a reasonable price. No brainer in my mind.

 

[BigDFan5]

You mean guys like eddie george, marco rivera, Henry and Peerless Price?

The thing about older vs younger.

IF you can find a younger guy with good upside, chances are you are going to pay for him.

Then you have the argument I see many others use, why don't we cultivate the players we have...we do have young guys at OT right now.

So I would like the idea of getting an older vet who will play at a cheap price and would be willing to sit on the bench as a backup while the young guys get their chances.

I really do not have a hangup about the situation myself. If a player can help the team I am all for bringing them in no matter the ties to bill or no ties to bill.

As I said before my hope is that either the young OTs we already have on the roster step up, or we get someone worthy in the draft.

But after last years situation I would not mind a vet with EXP waiting in the wings if he comes cheap...and I am not going to be down on him just because he had played with bill before.

After all of that I said, I don't think we will bring him in, his injury and performance because of injuries over the last couple of years have not been up to par and I think bill learned his lesson with injury problems with the last guy he brought in.

Nice post brain

 

[BigDFan5]

I was good looking before I got old.

Next.

LIES!!!


Winicki when he was younger

 

[superpunk]

My self portrait. From last week.

BigD....you're looking good! Is it the makeup?