Jets release players

[Hostile]

Why not? Its available.

I'm being serious Junk. I think people expect some kind of gift to fix RT. A guy who will sign cheap and play like an All Star.

On top of that I don't see the same panic by Parcells and company to fix RT that some here do. Maybe they will, but I haven't seen the evidence.

I really don't think we're going to get anyone for the bargain people think and I really don't understand why people think we have a huge hole at RT but a band aid will fix it.

Fabini is a band aid.

 

[Rush 2112]

I'm being serious Junk. I think people expect some kind of gift to fix RT. A guy who will sign cheap and play like an All Star.

On top of that I don't see the same panic by Parcells and company to fix RT that some here do. Maybe they will, but I haven't seen the evidence.

I really don't think we're going to get anyone for the bargain people think and I really don't understand why people think we have a huge hole at RT but a band aid will fix it.

Fabini is a band aid.

I take it as BP has been patient everywhere until he's seen what he wants.....size, age, experience, comfort......

Petiti looked like a pretty decent band aid until Flo went down.

Fabini as a more experienced band aid can start at RT and swing to LT just in case.

Or we could risk going with Colombo at LT and Petiti at RT should something happen to Flo again.

I say zero chance BP puts another 16 games into another rookie RT this year.

 

[Hostile]

I take it as BP has been patient everywhere until he's seen what he wants.....size, age, experience, comfort......

Petiti looked like a pretty decent band aid until Flo went down.

Fabini as a more experienced band aid can start at RT and swing to LT just in case.

Or we could risk going with Colombo at LT and Petiti at RT should something happen to Flo again.

I say zero chance BP puts another 16 games into another rookie RT this year.

I agree with you, we probably will not draft a RT to replace Petitti.

 

[Rush 2112]

I agree with you, we probably will not draft a RT to replace Petitti.

Ok, cool then.

Would you trade Tucker for Fabini straight-up?

Defense rests.

Your witness.

 

[AbeBeta]

Ok, cool then.

Would you trade Tucker for Fabini straight-up?

Defense rests.

Your witness.

you convinced this juror.

though I still think Rush sucks.

 

[Hostile]

Ok, cool then.

Would you trade Tucker for Fabini straight-up?

Defense rests.

Your witness.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make. I've never been a Tucker fan, but we weren't talking about him and Flo will send him to the bench anyway.

 

[Rush 2112]

I have no idea what point you're trying to make. I've never been a Tucker fan, but we weren't talking about him and Flo will send him to the bench anyway.

Well there are only so many spots available for OT's on the roster. Most logical people see that BP likes Petiti and has 16 starts invested in him. Flo's back. Colombo is a 2 year injury reclamation. Leaves 1 spot, maybe 2 if a guy can play G/T.

Where do we upgrade? Tucker.

Essentially trading or replacing Tucker with a proven starter is a major upgrade especially with a guy who has long term experience at both tackle spots.

No one said you were a Tucker fan, but abersonc got the idea.

Not exactly a strong selling point

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Ok, cool then.

Would you trade Tucker for Fabini straight-up?

Defense rests.

Your witness.

Tucker, Columbo and Petitie all have better "potential" if their mental game improves over time, they may not even be fully developed physically yet.

For example Petitie came in drastically flabby, as he shown by losing 50 lbs and still continuing to play though his body must have been exhausted, Rob will be a totally different player physically next season.

 

[Rush 2112]

Tucker, Columbo and Petitie all have better "potential" if their mental game improves over time, they may not even be fully developed physically yet.

For example Petitie came in drastically flabby, as he shown by losing 50 lbs and still continuing to play though his body must have been exhausted, Rob will be a totally different player physically next season.

Should I count that as a yes or a no on Fabini?

Tucker experiment has run it's course at OT.

Try him at OG or let him go struggle in SF for a year or 2 before he rides off into the sunset.

3 year rule has expired.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Should I count that as a yes or a no on Fabini?

Tucker experiment has run it's course at OT.

Try him at OG or let him go struggle in SF for a year or 2 before he rides off into the sunset.

3 year rule has expired.

Yes and No, I mean yo hate to cut the next Oliver Ross.

 

[Rush 2112]

I think we've done our due dilligence with Tucker. 3 years, 36 games, 24 starts.

Ross got 1 year, 2 games, no starts in Dallas.

Never even tried to develop him.

Tucker struck out completely at 2 positions.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I think we've done our due dilligence with Tucker. 3 years, 36 games, 24 starts.

Ross got 1 year, 2 games, no starts in Dallas.

Never even tried to develop him.

Tucker struck out completely at 2 positions.

Offensive Tackle Jason Fabini played in every game with the Jets since 1998 before a chest injury forced him to injured reserve this past season. Fabini was drafted BY PARCELS. Fabini has started 114 games at OT, mostly on the left side and also played two seasons on the right side.


Go ahead and mark me down as a yea.





:starspin

 

[Idgit]

I'm being serious Junk. I think people expect some kind of gift to fix RT. A guy who will sign cheap and play like an All Star.

On top of that I don't see the same panic by Parcells and company to fix RT that some here do. Maybe they will, but I haven't seen the evidence.

I really don't think we're going to get anyone for the bargain people think and I really don't understand why people think we have a huge hole at RT but a band aid will fix it.

Fabini is a band aid.

It all will come down to the money, but for a 3 year deal at what should amount to a median contract for a starting RT, we could bring Fabini in.

I don't think people believe a bandaid will fix the gaping hole at RT. Bandages do what they're expected to do: stop bleeding. Remember two things: Fabini is a player whose game Parcells compared Petitti's to when we drafted Rob last year. And, two, Parcells has a history of getting value from a draft by selecting OL in later rounds and coaching the players up.

If we can bring in a bandaid and develop a solution in the meantime, saving the high picks for positions that are best filled through the draft, why wouldn't we do it?

 

[junk]

Yes and No, I mean yo hate to cut the next Oliver Ross.

Ross is severely overrated anyway. It took him years to develop into a marginal starter.

 

[junk]

I'm being serious Junk. I think people expect some kind of gift to fix RT. A guy who will sign cheap and play like an All Star.

On top of that I don't see the same panic by Parcells and company to fix RT that some here do. Maybe they will, but I haven't seen the evidence.

I really don't think we're going to get anyone for the bargain people think and I really don't understand why people think we have a huge hole at RT but a band aid will fix it.

Fabini is a band aid.

So what do you want to do? Keep a TE/RB in all year to help Petitti again? Draft a guy and go through the rookie learning curve again? For all the detractors, I'm sure not hearing any other options.

I can't even make sense of most of the logic here. Fabini is a old, former Parcells player who is nothing more than a band-aid....but, he is going to command huge dollars.

 

[Hostile]

Well there are only so many spots available for OT's on the roster. Most logical people see that BP likes Petiti and has 16 starts invested in him. Flo's back. Colombo is a 2 year injury reclamation. Leaves 1 spot, maybe 2 if a guy can play G/T.

Where do we upgrade? Tucker.

Essentially trading or replacing Tucker with a proven starter is a major upgrade especially with a guy who has long term experience at both tackle spots.

No one said you were a Tucker fan, but abersonc got the idea.

Not exactly a strong selling point

I think I'm reading you wrong somewhere. You said Parcells would not start a "rookie at RT" this year after having done it last year. I agree. Petitti won't be a rookie next year, but it now seems to me you are talking about him. I wasn't.

Tucker never even enterred into the equation for me because Flo is coming back. Isn't he the proven starter? In my book, yes.

You're jumping around more than a danceer on hot coals trying to point something out to me. Slow down, stop trying to be cryptic and just say what it is you're trying desperately to get me to agree with.

That Tucker won't start? I already knew that and never thought otherwise.

That Petitti won't? Maybe he won't, but I won't be shocked if he does.

 

[junk]

It all will come down to the money, but for a 3 year deal at what should amount to a median contract for a starting RT, we could bring Fabini in.

I don't think people believe a bandaid will fix the gaping hole at RT. Bandages do what they're expected to do: stop bleeding. Remember two things: Fabini is a player whose game Parcells compared Petitti's to when we drafted Rob last year. And, two, Parcells has a history of getting value from a draft by selecting OL in later rounds and coaching the players up.

If we can bring in a bandaid and develop a solution in the meantime, saving the high picks for positions that are best filled through the draft, why wouldn't we do it?

Well said. I agree.

 

[KingTuna]

I am willing to bet that we land Fabini as our new starting RT this year...Parcells drafted him when he coached the Jets. Would be HUGE upgrade over Pettiti. LEt Pettiti learn behind the now 9 year vet.

GET HIM!!

 

[Hostile]

So what do you want to do? Keep a TE/RB in all year to help Petitti again? Draft a guy and go through the rookie learning curve again? For all the detractors, I'm sure not hearing any other options.

I can't even make sense of most of the logic here. Fabini is a old, former Parcells player who is nothing more than a band-aid....but, he is going to command huge dollars.

You forgot to include that he was injured last year.

I'm not saying he will command huge dollars. I just don't see him as that great an option. His age, his recent injury, etc. these things raise red flags with me and at least I was truthful about the Parcells connection also raising a red flag with me.

I'd offer other options, but you already told me not to. :wink2:

 

[Hostile]

It all will come down to the money, but for a 3 year deal at what should amount to a median contract for a starting RT, we could bring Fabini in.

I don't think people believe a bandaid will fix the gaping hole at RT. Bandages do what they're expected to do: stop bleeding. Remember two things: Fabini is a player whose game Parcells compared Petitti's to when we drafted Rob last year. And, two, Parcells has a history of getting value from a draft by selecting OL in later rounds and coaching the players up.

If we can bring in a bandaid and develop a solution in the meantime, saving the high picks for positions that are best filled through the draft, why wouldn't we do it?

I agree with this 100%. Please tell me why Bill Parcells absolutely CANNOT do this with Rob Petitti. It amazes me the hypocrisy. He can work magic except with this kid. Why? Because his dad posts here?

Rob Petitti is a smart kid. He also apparently has a lot of heart to play through injuries last year. A smart kid with heart. Yeah let's get that guy off the field and quit trying.

I don't get it. Especially given the fact his run blocking grades were pretty darn good.

Does he need work? Especially on footwork? Yes, even his father said that.