Jets show us what we need to do on offense

Galian Beast

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In 2014 the Jets were 22nd in yards on offense and 28th in points on offense.

This year they jump to 10th in yards and 11th in points.

We still have a better running game than the Jets. We were actually 5th in the league in rushing yards per attempt. Why we didn't run the ball more without a QB, I will never know.

Why were the Jets so successful on offense then?

Because they had two big play wide receivers who were able to combine for 26 touchdowns and 2500 yards receiving.

We desperately need to get away from feeding Witten the ball. We need to feed Bryant the ball more and also take pressure off of him by giving him a true partner out there.

Marshall had 174 targets where as in 2014 Bryant had 138, and Decker had 131 targets, just slightly less than what Dez had in 2014. Jason Witten was our #2 receiver in 2014 with 90 targets, while Williams only had 64 targets.... not a true WR2.

This offense needs to stop operating through its tight ends and running backs... I don't mind some screen passes incorporated into the offense, in fact I would welcome them, but we still need to be pushing the ball down the field.

#1 free agent priority should be to get Alshon Jeffery. The two of them together, especially with a better running game even with just McFadden (but I would love to have Miller), would set this offense up to create the score advantage that would yield good results on defense.
 

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Getting away from Witten so much will require a culture change in our passing strategy.
Romo will need to be weaned from Witten, his security blanket.
Yes, Witten has given Romo great personal stats but a longer range game passing strategy is in order.

But Sir Jones, Sonny boy Stephen and Romo are old dogs and won't change.

GOOD POST Galian Beast!!!!
 

Galian Beast

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Getting away from Witten so much will require a culture change in our passing strategy.
Romo will need to be weaned from Witten, his security blanket.
Yes, Witten has given Romo great personal stats but a longer range game passing strategy is in order.

But Sir Jones, Sonny boy Stephen and Romo are old dogs and won't change.

GOOD POST Galian Beast!!!!

Imagine how our offense would operate with Miller and Jeffery... Almost certainly have to have double brackets all day. And this offensive line would feast on front sevens, and Miller would perform perfectly in the zone scheme. Almost guarantee you he becomes lead rusher in the league (with Jeffery on the team). McFadden in a more clean up role, I think would be more effective as well. I think we only have a year left that makes sense with him here.

It would also really open things up for Beasley and/or Williams. I could see either flourishing with the lack of attention paid to them.
 

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I am not understanding the comparison at all. The 2014 Cowboys offense was better than the Jets 2015 offense. Marshall had more targets because the Jets threw the ball 128 more times in 2015 than Dallas did in 2014.

Marshall was targeted 173 times out of 604 pass attempts this season. That is 28.6%.

Dez was targeted 136 times out of 476 pass attempts in 2014. That is also 28.6%.

How did you come to the conclusion that Dallas was feeding the ball to Jason Witten in 2014? Dez was targeted 46 more times than Witten in 2014. Dez getting 150% more targets than Witten does not look like the offense goes through Witten. Just seems like a bash Witten thread.
 

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In 2014 the Jets were 22nd in yards on offense and 28th in points on offense.

This year they jump to 10th in yards and 11th in points.

We still have a better running game than the Jets. We were actually 5th in the league in rushing yards per attempt. Why we didn't run the ball more without a QB, I will never know.

Why were the Jets so successful on offense then?

Because they had two big play wide receivers who were able to combine for 26 touchdowns and 2500 yards receiving.

We desperately need to get away from feeding Witten the ball. We need to feed Bryant the ball more and also take pressure off of him by giving him a true partner out there.

Marshall had 174 targets where as in 2014 Bryant had 138, and Decker had 131 targets, just slightly less than what Dez had in 2014. Jason Witten was our #2 receiver in 2014 with 90 targets, while Williams only had 64 targets.... not a true WR2.

This offense needs to stop operating through its tight ends and running backs... I don't mind some screen passes incorporated into the offense, in fact I would welcome them, but we still need to be pushing the ball down the field.

#1 free agent priority should be to get Alshon Jeffery. The two of them together, especially with a better running game even with just McFadden (but I would love to have Miller), would set this offense up to create the score advantage that would yield good results on defense.

Name me the last SB winner that had 2 big time WRs.
 

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This offense needs to stop operating through its tight ends and running backs... I don't mind some screen passes incorporated into the offense, in fact I would welcome them, but we still need to be pushing the ball down the field.

Last year, when we had our QB, the Cowboys averaged 8.4 yards per pass attempt. This year the Jets you so desperately seem to want to emulate averaged 6.9 yards per passing attempt. We need to be pushing the ball down the field? Really? Romo had the highest yards per attempt in the league last year with an 8.52. Additionally the Cowboys had an average of 11.6 yards per completion, fifth highest in the league and better than the Jets 11.2 yards per completion this year.

Your premise makes no sense. We push the ball down the field about as well as anyone - you know, when we aren't playing scrub backup QBs and actually have our starter.
 

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The delay in getting Dez his money and hence to practice really hurt this team. I don't think he was as well conditioned as he was in 2014. Then he got hurt and it was easier for defenses to cover the remaining wide receivers. We then turned to the speedy Lance Dunbar to stretch the field, which he did, and then his injury hurt the team drastically. When teams have to respect the Dez threat, other competent wideouts like Williams and Beasley have more field to get open. Can Dez return to form in 2016? That's the big question. It may make sense to draft a wide receiver.
 

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Getting away from Witten so much will require a culture change in our passing strategy.
Romo will need to be weaned from Witten, his security blanket.

Cannot really argue with this. Witten should be scaled down to option three or four in our concepts. It just seems all too often he is number two and even sometimes one, especially in Romo's head. I get they are bonded at the hip, but it is the point now where Witten's influence needs to diminish a little bit. The problem is no legitimate number two, which is why I could be convinced about Treadwell.
 

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In 2014 the Jets were 22nd in yards on offense and 28th in points on offense.

This year they jump to 10th in yards and 11th in points.

We still have a better running game than the Jets. We were actually 5th in the league in rushing yards per attempt. Why we didn't run the ball more without a QB, I will never know.

Why were the Jets so successful on offense then?

Because they had two big play wide receivers who were able to combine for 26 touchdowns and 2500 yards receiving.

We desperately need to get away from feeding Witten the ball. We need to feed Bryant the ball more and also take pressure off of him by giving him a true partner out there.

Marshall had 174 targets where as in 2014 Bryant had 138, and Decker had 131 targets, just slightly less than what Dez had in 2014. Jason Witten was our #2 receiver in 2014 with 90 targets, while Williams only had 64 targets.... not a true WR2.

This offense needs to stop operating through its tight ends and running backs... I don't mind some screen passes incorporated into the offense, in fact I would welcome them, but we still need to be pushing the ball down the field.

#1 free agent priority should be to get Alshon Jeffery. The two of them together, especially with a better running game even with just McFadden (but I would love to have Miller), would set this offense up to create the score advantage that would yield good results on defense.

I agree. I don't know if Jeffrey is the guy? I kind of want a speedster out there. I think Pitt has a nice diverse receiving Corp. I know the Kid from Memphis is coming out this year. I don't know much about him. Wondering if he could be the guy instead of a FA pick up that's going to cost a lot of money?
 

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I think they dumped off to Witten so frequently because other receivers just weren't open. The plays probably were designed to go to those receivers. They just couldn't. Gotta get Dez back to form. Gotta have a better #2.
 

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GB's OP is something I believe the Coaches and Front Office are thinking about as well. Treadwell will get a significant look during the Pre-Draft process IMO.
 

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Docston, Fuller, Coleman and Addison are some other receivers that should be available in rd 2 and beyond.
 

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I am not understanding the comparison at all. The 2014 Cowboys offense was better than the Jets 2015 offense. Marshall had more targets because the Jets threw the ball 128 more times in 2015 than Dallas did in 2014.

Marshall was targeted 173 times out of 604 pass attempts this season. That is 28.6%.

Dez was targeted 136 times out of 476 pass attempts in 2014. That is also 28.6%.

How did you come to the conclusion that Dallas was feeding the ball to Jason Witten in 2014? Dez was targeted 46 more times than Witten in 2014. Dez getting 150% more targets than Witten does not look like the offense goes through Witten. Just seems like a bash Witten thread.

Let me explain it to you. The Cowboys didn't throw the ball enough in 2014, first of all. We were 31st in the NFL in passing attempts in 2014. The Cowboys offense in 2014 was better than the Jets offense in 2015, because we had a better offensive line and a much better running back. That being said, we lacked the explosiveness to take teams completely out of games, which is what I think we need to implement going forward, which is the point of the OP.

Dez gets more targets than Witten, but every target to Dez as opposed to Witten pushes this offense further ahead. Not sure this is controversial....
 
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