JG Offense Versus Top 5 Defenses

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JordanTaber;2584371 said:
The problem is, with this level of offensive talent, the team should rank in the top 2 or 3 against every one of those opponents.

Hell, in the 2nd game against the Giants, 6 teams did better. That puts that outing right in the middle of the rest of the NFL.

Jordan and I agree on this one. We should be 7-8 points ahead of the average overall, not at average.
 

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ajk23az;2584368 said:
Take 2 of those away (Bucs & Giants) when we have a QB that can't throw an 8 yard out...

And the running game? Why not run the ball? Oh wait, we couldn’t run the ball either! So with Johnson, we were able to beat the bucs but not the rams? Do you realise the rams didnt win the rest of the season? LOL, you jokers are funny.
 

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goshan;2584375 said:
Jordan and I agree on this one. We should be 7-8 points ahead of the average overall, not at average.

I agree too but for people to say Garrett is a worthless piece of crap is totally off base.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2584314 said:
Again, Stats never really show the true story.

When one watches the games, then Jason Garrett's failures are alot more appearant.

when one watches the games without looking for a scapegoat, its easy to see a QB that cant avoid mistakes and missed way too many open people this yr, WR's that run the wrong routes (or no routes at all), a 40+ million dollar RB that fumbles too much and ended up the 3rd best RB on the team and and OL that was amazingly inconsistent
 

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Everlastingxxx;2584377 said:
And the running game? Why not run the ball? Oh wait, we couldn’t run the ball either! So with Johnson, we were able to beat the bucs but not the rams? Do you realise the rams didnt win the rest of the season? LOL, you jokers are funny.

Did you realize how bad the defense played vs. the Rams?? OMGZ!?!!?!?!
 

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Everlastingxxx;2584377 said:
And the running game? Why not run the ball? Oh wait, we couldn’t run the ball either! So with Johnson, we were able to beat the bucs but not the rams? Do you realise the rams didnt win the rest of the season? LOL, you jokers are funny.

We didn't even try to run the ball.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2584341 said:
There you go 18.7 points, Garrett makes me wet my pants.
What a joke. Some are so deeply brainwashed.

So as a point of reference which O coord is really impressive?
 

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gbrittain;2584421 said:
So as a point of reference which O coord is really impressive?

The Dallas Cowboys had the most offensive talent in the NFL and did average to below average with it. A #1 WR and a Hall of Fame WR, 1 Pro Bowl and 2 high quality Running Backs, 3 Pro Bowl O-Lineman, All-Pro TE and a Pro-Bowl QB and Super Bowl Back-up QB. Oh and the highest paid hottest Offensive Coordinator in the league leading them. So what’s the excuse again?
 

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Everlastingxxx;2584437 said:
The Dallas Cowboys had the most offensive talent in the NFL and did average to below average with it. A #1 WR and a Hall of Fame WR, 1 Pro Bowl and 2 high quality Running Backs, 3 Pro Bowl O-Lineman, All-Pro TE and a Pro-Bowl QB and Super Bowl Back-up QB. Oh and the highest paid hottest Offensive Coordinator in the league leading them. So what’s the excuse again?

It was an easy question really. So which O coords really impress you?
 

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gbrittain;2584444 said:
It was an easy question really. So which O coords really impress you?

good luck on getting an answer.

he sucks because the majority says he does.

we run draw plays...he sucks.
 

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theebs;2584462 said:
good luck on getting an answer.

he sucks because the majority says he does.

we run draw plays...he sucks.

Yeah and our struggles this year are unique to Dallas. Any other team that would have lost their QB for 3 games and played half their games against the 5 top rated defenses in the NFL would have done much much better offensively than JG.

If Dallas had the #1 thru #5 rated defense in the NFL and another team were to struggle against our #1 thru #5 rated defense, we as fans would surely wonder why their offense did not do better against us?
 

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gbrittain;2584474 said:
Yeah and our struggles this year are unique to Dallas. Any other team that would have lost their QB for 3 games and played half their games against the 5 top rated defenses in the NFL would have done much much better offensively than JG.

If Dallas had the #1 thru #5 rated defense in the NFL and another team were to struggle against our #1 thru #5 rated defense, we as fans would surely wonder why their offense did not do better against us?

Ohh so thats why the Red Headed Genius guided us to the 18th ranked offense.

Good to know.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2584437 said:
The Dallas Cowboys had the most offensive talent in the NFL and did average to below average with it. A #1 WR and a Hall of Fame WR, 1 Pro Bowl and 2 high quality Running Backs, 3 Pro Bowl O-Lineman, All-Pro TE and a Pro-Bowl QB and Super Bowl Back-up QB. Oh and the highest paid hottest Offensive Coordinator in the league leading them. So what’s the excuse again?

lmao...you actually insinuated Brad Johnson is a good QB in that statement..:laugh2:

:a-team: (That is your credibility running away)

PS- Brad Johnson won that SB FIVE years ago!
 

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JustSayNotoTO;2584479 said:
Ohh so thats why the Red Headed Genius guided us to the 18th ranked offense.

Good to know.


you sure thats 18th and not 13th? I know we are ranked 18th in points score but i believe we are 13th overall.......
 

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dadymat;2584508 said:
you sure thats 18th and not 13th? I know we are ranked 18th in points score but i believe we are 13th overall.......

Whatever rank you pick, its mediocre.
 

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I've never really thought Garrett should leave, but if you're going to start cutting super star talents, then he has to go as well.

Outside of that, the guy just needs more experience, and offseason to learn more, and if his offense is sloppy (notice the word sloppy, things like confusion between QB and WR, play clock running out, things like that)

Having said all of that and like I've said before, if you want to start removing parts of this team that were unsuccessful, the only persons that would survive would be Witten/Ware in my eyes, excluding all of the coaches.
 

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dadymat;2584508 said:
you sure thats 18th and not 13th? I know we are ranked 18th in points score but i believe we are 13th overall.......

In the end points are all that matter. Empty yardage doesn't win games. I don't care how many garbage yards we pile up (consequently making this offense look better than it really is). Yardage without out points are nothing but time killers.

13th in yards and 18th in points? Hmmm I wonder which one has a more direct correlation to our winning percentage?
 

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JustSayNotoTO;2584479 said:
Ohh so thats why the Red Headed Genius guided us to the 18th ranked offense.

Good to know.

18th in points, 13th in yards.

Since you are so hung up on 18th in terms of points. Do you think Dallas possibly scores another 10 points per game that Romo missed?

I would say very likely. That would rank Dallas as the #10 defense in the NFL.

You can poo poo it all you want but dont you think every offense that played this year would have scored less points than they did had they played the top 5 defenses in the NFL 8 times?

A serious question. Maybe I am overrating this aspect. But how many additional points do think Dallas would have scored had they had Romo those 3 games and not played half their schedule against the top rated defenses in the NFL.

No one knows, but surely you can speculate. No difference. 1 point per game? Give me something. Or do you think teams should score as much against the top defenses in the NFL as they do the mid to bottom rated defenses?
 

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gbrittain;2584516 said:
18th in points, 13th in yards.

Since you are so hung up on 18th in terms of points. Do you think Dallas possibly scores another 10 points per game that Romo missed?

I would say very likely. That would rank Dallas as the #10 defense in the NFL.

You can poo poo it all you want but dont you think every offense that played this year would have scored less points than they did had they played the top 5 defenses in the NFL 8 times?

A serious question. Maybe I am overrating this aspect. But how many additional points do think Dallas would have scored had they had Romo those 3 games and not played half their schedule against the top rated defenses in the NFL.

No one knows, but surely you can speculate. No difference. 1 point per game? Give me something. Or do you think teams should score as much against the top defenses in the NFL as they do the mid to bottom rated defenses?

Dont get hung up on games that Romo missed, as Jasons buddy Brad was the QB.
 

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ajk23az;2584496 said:
lmao...you actually insinuated Brad Johnson is a good QB in that statement..:laugh2:

:a-team: (That is your credibility running away)

PS- Brad Johnson won that SB FIVE years ago!

Did he win a Super Bowl? That was my only statement. Even still, Garrett had the WRs running 15-20 yrd routes with the old man in there. What other animated smilies can you add to your next post?
 
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