Jimmy Johnson Feels Cowboys Could Be A Super Bowl Team In 2010 (GridironFans)

[Monster Heel]

You are without a doubt one of the worst posters on this forum. No grasp of the game or History or quite frankly anything. That last comment is pure ignorance at its finest. I don't give a damn what you don't like or what annoys you and your lace panties. Shut your festering gob. Please.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I keep hearing about how this is 1991 and next year is 1992. I see the Cowboys getting overhyped and their heads getting too big over the next 5-6 months. History suggests that this is the more likely scenario for this group.

 

[sonnyboy]

Why is everyone so high on a guy who caught screen passes last year???? Everyone always falls in love with the low draft pick/undrafted players that we have somehow hit nail after nail on here lately. The Ratliff/Romo/Austin's of the world are rare. If Ogletree turned out to be player - I don't know what I'd do.

But I do know something - lots of people are hyping this kid. Let him actually catch 35-45 passes that aren't screens and I'd be hyping him, too.

Because he looked really good on those screen passes. As he did on a number of other plays.

The idea, the hype, the belief...... whatever you want to call it, that Ogletree could win a starting spot, and play very well, is very plausible for a few reasons.

1) Almost all rookies make their largest stride in year two.
2) He demonstrated some real nice ability in limited action.
3) It only takes one year to move from undrafted rookie to veteran NFL player. He's now on a realitively level playing field with every other NFL player. He will get the playing time he earns.
4) There's plenty of opportunity for him to see game action. Not many on this site predicting an 80 catch season for Roy Williams next year.

 

[Hostile]

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I keep hearing about how this is 1991 and next year is 1992. I see the Cowboys getting overhyped and their heads getting too big over the next 5-6 months. History suggests that this is the more likely scenario for this group.

How many points did we lose to the Lions by in 1991 Mr. "I don't see how losing by 31 points in the playoffs is primed for a Super Bowl run?"

In case it is simply over your head the number of points a team loses by hasn't got one damned thing to do with a coming year. So you want to talk about learning from History. Learn from the fact that History has already proven you don't know **** about football and shut up.

 

[Monster Heel]

How many points did we lose to the Lions by in 1991 Mr. "I don't see how losing by 31 points in the playoffs is primed for a Super Bowl run?"

In case it is simply over your head the number of points a team loses by hasn't got one damned thing to do with a coming year. So you want to talk about learning from History. Learn from the fact that History has already proven you don't know **** about football and shut up.

Do these Cowboys have a future HOF QB, RB, #1 WR, a good offensive line and a #1 number defense in the NFL walking through that door?

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Bottom line is every with pretty good to elite QB's are thinking about the Superbowl in 2010.

 

[Hostile]

Do these Cowboys have a future HOF QB, RB, #1 WR, a good offensive line and a #1 number defense in the NFL walking through that door?

Are they lonely?

 

[sonnyboy]

They made the final 8 in 2007, played better once they got there than they did this year and were hyped to the high heavens going into the next year. I admittedly bought into it, but where did we go from there? I don't even have to mention the score.

Played better at home. The difference between this team and 2007 was that this team played it's best football down the stretch and actually won in the post season.

They had multiple do or die type games late........@NO , Phila week 17 and Philly in the wildcard game and performed well.

Blowout loss in Min does not wipe that away. As much as you'd like for that to be the case, to convince many here that that is the case, it simply isn't.

As much as you enjoyed the 2008 off season with nobody giving us love, you're going to haveto ebdure the 2009 off season with us as favs.

 

[sonnyboy]

Do these Cowboys have a future HOF QB, RB, #1 WR, a good offensive line and a #1 number defense in the NFL walking through that door?

The 1992 Cowboys did not have all of that walking through the door.

Are you smoking crack?

Our 91 defense was average at best. Many Cowboy fans wanted Beurlien to replace Aikman after 1991.

Our defense is light years ahead of the Cowboys defense coming into 1992 and Romo is a far more accomplished QB than Aikman coming into 1992.

 

[Monster Heel]

As much as you enjoyed the 2008 off season with nobody giving us love, you're going to haveto ebdure the 2009 off season with us as favs.

That's exactly why I think they will get the big head. It was beneficial for them to be doubted at every turn. Now they will get the benefit of the doubt and I don't believe that is good for this group. All they do is come up small when you start expecting things out of them.

 

[sonnyboy]

Bottom line is every with pretty good to elite QB's are thinking about the Superbowl in 2010.

As many of them should.

You take a team with an elite QB and give them the #2 scoring defense.......WOW! Now you have a legit contending team.

 

[Monster Heel]

The 1992 Cowboys did not have all of that walking through the door.

Are you smoking crack?

Our 91 defense was average at best. Many Cowboy fans wanted Beurlien to replace Aikman after 1991.

Our defense is light years ahead of the Cowboys defense coming into 1992 and Romo is a far more accomplished QB than Aikman coming into 1992.

They did not have all of that walking through door to 92, but they were well on their way by the end of the season. I don't have to go out on a limb to tell you Tony Romo isn't going to the HOF, we have question marks at WR, none of our RBs will be making the HOF, this offensive line will be no better than average and that we will still have a fluff defense.

 

[Hostile]

The 1992 Cowboys did not have all of that walking through the door.

Are you smoking crack?

Our 91 defense was average at best. Many Cowboy fans wanted Beurlien to replace Aikman after 1991.

Our defense is light years ahead of the Cowboys defense coming into 1992 and Romo is a far more accomplished QB than Aikman coming into 1992.

Bingo.

They became Hall of Famers, but no one knew they were going to be in 1992. Least of all this babbling fount of no knowledge. He thinks he knows the ultimate fate of our QB, RBs, WR, and defense, but the truth is he hasn't got one damned clue and is a waste of time.

 

[Hostile]

They did not have all of that walking through door to 92, but they were well on their way by the end of the season. I don't have to go out on a limb to tell you Tony Romo isn't going to the HOF, we have question marks at WR, none of our RBs will be making the HOF, this offensive line will be no better than average and that we will still have a fluff defense.

What Saints RB is going to the Hall of Fame? Is there Offensive Line way above average. If our Defense is fluff, what is theirs?

Oh, and are they lonely?

 

[sonnyboy]

They did not have all of that walking through door to 92, but they were well on their way by the end of the season. I don't have to go out on a limb to tell you Tony Romo isn't going to the HOF, we have question marks at WR, none of our RBs will be making the HOF, this offensive line will be no better than average and that we will still have a fluff defense.

Romo is well on his way to Canton. Hell of a lot closer than Akiman was in 1992.

We have more answers than questions at WR and at Receivers as a group with our excellent TEs.

I'll take Jones, Barber and Choice over Emmitt. Reality is we were one high ankle sprain away from being a 10 win team in any of our 90's SB years.

This OL when healthy is far better than average. I do concede age is a major concern.

FLUFF DEFENSE? #2 scoring defense is fluff? Care to elaborate on this comment?

 

[sonnyboy]

What Saints RB is going to the Hall of Fame? Is there Offensive Line way above average. If our Defense is fluff, what is theirs?

Oh, and are they lonely?

I'm not getting this question.

 

[Monster Heel]

What Saints RB is going to the Hall of Fame? Is there Offensive Line way above average. If our Defense is fluff, what is theirs?

Oh, and are they lonely?

What a straw man argument. I never made any comparison of the Saints to the Cowboys.

The Saints won the Superbowl because they had perhaps the best QB in the league in 2009. In vacuum Drew Brees is probably not better than Peyton Manning, but for this year he was. In an era where the team who passes the ball most efficiently will win the majority of their games, Drew Brees is just what the doctor ordered. The next time Tony Romo is the best QB in the league, will be the first time and I don't think there will ever be a point where that is the case.

As far as their offensive line goes, they are above average. Jermon Bushrod is not particularly good and Stinchcomb is JAG, but their interior is flat out dominant. Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks probably make up the best combination of guards in the league. In contrast to Dallas, who has like 1 and a half good interior lineman and two poor starting tackles.

As far their defense goes, they were incredible at taking the ball away and they were one of the best teams against the pass (in the sense that they had a high defensive passer rating, top 3 actually). Dallas was not only poor at taking the ball away, but they had a poor defensive passer rating.

If you have one of the best passing teams and one of the best at stopping the pass, you will win games. It's that simple really.

 

[Hostile]

I'm not getting this question.

The synapses in his head.

 

[Hostile]

What a straw man argument. I never made any comparison of the Saints to the Cowboys.

The Saints won the Superbowl because they had perhaps the best QB in the league in 2009. In vacuum Drew Brees is probably not better than Peyton Manning, but for this year he was. In an era where the team who passes the ball most efficiently will win the majority of their games, Drew Brees is just what the doctor ordered. The next time Tony Romo is the best QB in the league, will be the first time and I don't think there will ever be a point where that is the case.

As far as their offensive line goes, they are above average. Jermon Bushrod is not particularly good and Stinchcomb is JAG, but their interior is flat out dominant. Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks probably make up the best combination of guards in the league. In contrast to Dallas, who has like 1 and a half good interior lineman and two poor starting tackles.

As far their defense goes, they were incredible at taking the ball away and they were one of the best teams against the pass (in the sense that they had a high defensive passer rating, top 3 actually). Dallas was not only poor at taking the ball away, but they had a poor defensive passer rating.

If you have one of the best passing teams and one of the best at stopping the pass, you will win games. It's that simple really.

You're incapable of making any intelligent comparisons. A total waste of football time.

 

[Monster Heel]

Romo is well on his way to Canton. Hell of a lot closer than Akiman was in 1992.

FLUFF DEFENSE? #2 scoring defense is fluff? Care to elaborate on this comment?

Romo is purely a numbers guy in an era where numbers are meaning less and less. As far as accomplishments, he just won his first playoff game and he's never even been an All Pro. He's not well on his way to a HOF.

It's fluff because scoring isn't the be all indicator of how good a defense is. They can't take the ball away and they don't stop the pass well enough. I'm not saying they're garbage or anything, but that #2 in scoring defense is not as big as you think it is.

 

[zrinkill]

You're incapable of making any intelligent comparisons. A total waste of football time.

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