Jimmy Johnson in his book "Swagger," in order to win SB, you need a great QB not a good one

[superonyx]

Good chance Jalen Hurts or Brock Purdy win a SB this year.

Which one is great?

 

[hopemsu]

Jimmy Johnson won superbowls with Troy Aikman and his stats are nothing to brag about. If Troy had played for any other team, he wouldn't scratch the HOF, so if we can win with Troy, we can win with Dak.

 

[G2]

This has never been brought up.

 

[DanTanna]

Dak is our version of Neil O'Donnell - but not as good. Throw it right to the other team.

 

[gtb1943]

Flacco got hot and arguably played the best football of his career when it mattered most. Stafford made the plays when it mattered. Eli- nuff said.
IF you want a DYNATY, then you need a great QB.

 

[HMJYay]

I disagree with Jimmy. You most certainly don’t need a great QB to win one.

Jimmy won titles when there wasn’t a salary cap.

You just can’t pay a non-elite QB like they’re elite and win.

Yep. You can win a super bowl with an average QB. But, not when that average QB is paid like he's one of the best. You have to build a great team around a average QB. Wheres you have build an average to good team around a great QB. We are in scenario 1.

 

[GMO415]

There's been QBs that haven't been great that have won Super Bowls though.

The problem is having a not great QB that believes he's great.

That's where the trouble starts and that's what we have in Dak.

True. I should mention, Jimmy said "today's" NFL you shall have a great QB to win a SB.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

True. I should mention, Jimmy said "today's" NFL you shall have a great QB to win a SB.

That's probably true.

They don't have to be "great" all the time, but they have to be great for the playoff stretch.

Foles and Flacco are examples of decent enough QBs that were great during the playoffs.

 

[Rogerthat12]

After 7 years with Dak, I hold Jimmy's philosophy to be true. Dak will never get us to a SB, let alone win us one.

So, our fans aren't looking at a SB for another 4 or more years? Ugh

Dilfer???

 

[Legend]

I don't see Aikman as a a great QB. He was a good QB on an exceptionally good team. Had he been on a bottom dweller, he would not have ever made it to the SB.

He was the starting QB for a bottom dweller in 1989.

 

[Legend]

Jimmy Johnson won superbowls with Troy Aikman and his stats are nothing to brag about. If Troy had played for any other team, he wouldn't scratch the HOF, so if we can win with Troy, we can win with Dak.

His playoff stats are something to brag about.

Regular season stats do not mean one will have great postseason runs.

 

[Legend]

I disagree with Jimmy. You most certainly don’t need a great QB to win one.

Jimmy won titles when there wasn’t a salary cap.

You just can’t pay a non-elite QB like they’re elite and win.

Jimmy did not win Super Bowls because there was no salary cap.

He won with the Walker trade, draft, bargain free agent pick ups, and trading for the disgruntled Haley.

I.e., built the team up from 1-15 during his first season.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Of course you don’t need a great QB to win a Superbowl. That is so stupid, and I like Jimmy Johnson.

You need a good QB that does not make stupid mistakes.

With a good QB we would be one game away from a Superbowl. With our D we could win a Superbowl with a good QB!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

After 7 years with Dak, I hold Jimmy's philosophy to be true. Dak will never get us to a SB, let alone win us one.

So, our fans aren't looking at a SB for another 4 or more years? Ugh

so without a great QB you have no chance at a superbowl? Grapolo? Goff? Foles? Cam Newton? Kaepernick? Flacco? ELi? Grossman? Hasselback? McNabb, Delhome, Johnson< Gannon

yes, every era, there is one or two or three QBs who dominate. they are called the elite QBs. Brady, Mahomes, Manning, but if you need an elite QB to win and there is only about 3,4 then 28 teams are screwed each year and might as well, just pack it in and go home. why even play, try, etc.

does an elite QB give you a better chance? heck yes. but getting that Elite QB is tough. should teams not try to find elite QBs? of course not, they should and the will. that's why QBs get over drafted, over paid. options are not abundant and 4 out of 5 top 15 drafted QBs fail in the NFL.

its about building a team, with the right coach and system that can get you a chance. Purdy ain't all that. else he would have started over Lance and Grapolo. if either of those two wouldn't get injured, I bet you he wouldn't see a single snap. but they have a strong team, great defense, strong run game, strong recieving group, great system and allows them to win in multiple ways and support Purdy to play a role.

 

[Legend]

Of course you don’t need a great QB to win a Superbowl. That is so stupid, and I like Jimmy Johnson.

You need a good QB that does not make stupid mistakes.

With a good QB we would be one game away from a Superbowl. With our D we could win a Superbowl with a good QB!

Not stupid from Jimmy’s perspective since he wanted to dominate.

Someone stated the difference between Jimmy and Parcells is that Jimmy wanted to win with Cadillacs while Parcells wanted to win with Buicks.

Jimmy would take on disgruntled stars like Charles Haley while Parcells did not really like T.O. Or “the player”

That is the reason why the 1992 Dallas Cowboys are listed as one of the top 5 teams in NFL history.

 

[McKDaddy]

I don't see Aikman as a a great QB. He was a good QB on an exceptionally good team. Had he been on a bottom dweller, he would not have ever made it to the SB.

Well, that is where you mistaken. Aikman was a great QB. Sure, he could have had his career drowned by a bottom dweller but it wouldn't have changed anything about his skill set.

He understood everything that was going on, he was decisive and pin point accurate. Not to mention tough as nails, heated competitor who demanded excellence and played "team" football not hero ball. He would have mopped the floor with the 9ers last weekend.

 

[Motorola]

I don't see Aikman as a a great QB. He was a good QB on an exceptionally good team. Had he been on a bottom dweller, he would not have ever made it to the SB.

Aikman started out on a "bottom dweller" .
1986__7-9
1987__7-8
1988__3-13, the season before he got there.
1989__1-15, his rookie year.
The bottom dweller - and him - became outstanding in a short amount of time.
1990___7-9
You know the rest.

 

[Coogiguy03]

After 7 years with Dak, I hold Jimmy's philosophy to be true. Dak will never get us to a SB, let alone win us one.

So, our fans aren't looking at a SB for another 4 or more years? Ugh

May not even need to be great, just great at the right moments

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I don't see Aikman as a a great QB. He was a good QB on an exceptionally good team. Had he been on a bottom dweller, he would not have ever made it to the SB.

Your statement won't be popular...but it is true. When the coaching and talent around him declined....so did Troy's play.

 

[32BellyOption]

Thats ideal. But then you see Ripen, Williams, Dilfer, Flacco, Brad Johnson. If you want to be in the mix every year you need the great ones.

All of those QB’s teams had great defenses. Not sure in todays game though with the rules to benefit the offense and promote high scoring you can win a SB with a bus driver. If SF wins it I may change my mind. Lol!