JJT On Sporting News Radio Today Said It Will Be Norv...

BigDFan5;1342448 said:
Sorry man I was hoping our new coach would take us deep in the playoffs. I look at Norv and don't see it.

And I look at Norv and see a coach who can get the very best out of Tony Romo, which I happen to think is the key to the Cowboys' success in the immediate future, while being a mentor for Jason Garrett, who I think is the key to the Cowboys' success down the road a ways...

I also think you're seeing what you want to see, and going on rather superficial things like his won-loss record in his two stints as a head coach... while I see things about his time with the Skins that indicate he didn't do that a bad job there, and I dismiss out of hand his time with the Faiders... his mistake there was wandering into that den of incompetence, the place coaching careers go to die...

And as I've said, at no point in his head coaching career has he had as talented a team as the one he'll be taking over (which is not his fault, since he had little to no say in personnel matters in either situation)... Jimmy Johnson said you win in the NFL with playmakers, and Norv will have more of them than he's ever had before... I'm up for seeing what he can do with them...

There would have been other options I would have found more appealing, but none of them were the realistic options... I'm talking about the Bill Cowhers, Jeff Fishers and Lovie Smiths out there... the rest of the "contenders" didn't really do much for me...
 
JustSayNotoTO;1342451 said:
I have eased my hatred of TO, I can deal with him on the team if he is productive.

Oh, I was misled by your nom de plume... but I guess nobody wants to give up their post count... :D
 
silverbear;1342434 said:
Here's a thought to sustain you and all the other Chicken Littles in your hour of despair:

Norv has never had a team as talented as the one he'd be taking over in Dallas... that MIGHT have some impact on his bottom line, don't you reckon??

Please save this quote for next December when Silverbear, Queen of Jerrys Harem of Stepford Wives , makes apologies for Turners record due to a lack of talent.
 
Two things about this radio report -

Why hasn't anyone picked this up in the print media ala BSPN?

How is JJT source wise - is he usually correct?
 
summerisfunner;1342456 said:
I'll wait, but I know I won't be impressed sans Norv's hiring

OK, if you absolutely insist, I'll let you wallow in despair a while...

See if you can get it out of your system in the next 72 hours though, OK?? :D
 
The only thing Norv could do would be to make this offense worse.

Our offense is nowhere close to being the issue with this team.

Courtesy interview by Jerry for an old friend.

If we're bringing in Norv we wouldn't have the obvious strong desire to keep Sparano.

Let go of the 90's.
 
hank2k;1342468 said:
Please save this quote for next December when Silverbear, Queen of Jerrys Harem of Stepford Wives , makes apologies for Turners record due to a lack of talent.

I'll be right here... but if you think I'm gonna argue this team lacks talent, you're an idiot...

But I guess one has to be an idiot to be the proud owner of his very own Jerry Jones voodoo doll...
 
silverbear;1342464 said:
And I look at Norv and see a coach who can get the very best out of Tony Romo, which I happen to think is the key to the Cowboys' success in the immediate future, while being a mentor for Jason Garrett, who I think is the key to the Cowboys' success down the road a ways...

I also think you're seeing what you want to see, and going on rather superficial things like his won-loss record in his two stints as a head coach... while I see things about his time with the Skins that indicate he didn't do that a bad job there, and I dismiss out of hand his time with the Faiders... his mistake there was wandering into that den of incompetence, the place coaching careers go to die...

And as I've said, at no point in his head coaching career has he had as talented a team as the one he'll be taking over (which is not his fault, since he had little to no say in personnel matters in either situation)... Jimmy Johnson said you win in the NFL with playmakers, and Norv will have more of them than he's ever had before... I'm up for seeing what he can do with them...

There would have been other options I would have found more appealing, but none of them were the realistic options... I'm talking about the Bill Cowhers, Jeff Fishers and Lovie Smiths out there... the rest of the "contenders" didn't really do much for me...


I would love him to mentor romo as an OC but thats not possible. As HC he will be responsible for everthng from offense to defense gameplans, etc.

In his previous stops He couldnt get the teams to believe in him IMO. We talk about how bad the skins were but he had a part in keeping them that way he had a hand in draftng some of these guys we call busts, and had 1 good season.

I will give him a chance like I would any coach, but if its true that he is going to be hired my expectations for next season are about 7 or 8 wins. I would love to say I was wrong at this time next year, but I fear I wont need too as we are searching for another new coach
 
silverbear;1342464 said:
And I look at Norv and see a coach who can get the very best out of Tony Romo, which I happen to think is the key to the Cowboys' success in the immediate future, while being a mentor for Jason Garrett, who I think is the key to the Cowboys' success down the road a ways...

I also think you're seeing what you want to see, and going on rather superficial things like his won-loss record in his two stints as a head coach... while I see things about his time with the Skins that indicate he didn't do that a bad job there, and I dismiss out of hand his time with the Faiders... his mistake there was wandering into that den of incompetence, the place coaching careers go to die...

And as I've said, at no point in his head coaching career has he had as talented a team as the one he'll be taking over (which is not his fault, since he had little to no say in personnel matters in either situation)... Jimmy Johnson said you win in the NFL with playmakers, and Norv will have more of them than he's ever had before... I'm up for seeing what he can do with them...

There would have been other options I would have found more appealing, but none of them were the realistic options... I'm talking about the Bill Cowhers, Jeff Fishers and Lovie Smiths out there... the rest of the "contenders" didn't really do much for me...

Turner is not exciting. That is what is the problem to most people. He is not exciting, and had mostly average success as HC for the Skins and Raiders. In regard to that, I would just tell them to look at how Belichick was run out of Cleveland by everyone.

I think everyone will get on board, once the hire is official. If not, can we just start another forum for the haters so we don't have to live with all the negativity. I was/am against the Phillips idea, but if he was hired I would accept it and hope for the best.
 
BigDFan5;1342475 said:
I would love him to mentor romo as an OC but thats not possible. As HC he will be responsible for everthng from offense to defense gameplans, etc.

Norv's gonna be in Tony's head right from the start, count on it...

Assuming he's actually the choice...
 
LatinMind;1342320 said:
while i respect your opinion i dont understand it. norv wherever he's gone has had top offenses.

Uh, does Oakland ring a bell? Did Miami have a top offense with Norv as O-Coordinator? What about the Chargers?

wide open offenses.

Actually, Norv is pretty much a 2 back, 1 TE, 2 WR set guy. His offenses like to throw deep, but I wouldn't put him in the category of having wide open offenses.

Here's the thing, we lost the NFC East this year because of the defense. So why hire a guy like Norv?

It's hard to believe JJT after he was convinced Parcells was going to stay, so Norv may not even be a serious candidate for all we know. But hiring Norv would be a bad move. And if they are hiring Norv to be a stopgap for either Fisher, Cowher or Garrett, then Jones should refund a lot of money back to the fans.

Even if Garrett does indeed look like the next good, young HC in the NFL. I think you're better off hiring another promising HC. Why not give yourself 2 shots at finding the right guy instead of just one?

I like Norv and respect what he's done for Dallas and the game of football, but if he's hired my Sundays will be spent playing golf instead.



YAKUZA
 
BlueDemon;1342469 said:
Two things about this radio report -

Why hasn't anyone picked this up in the print media ala BSPN?

How is JJT source wise - is he usually correct?

He was interviewed on TSN radio. Also AdamJT13 gave us a heads up last night saying Mac Engel of the Star Telegram was going to report in today's edition that Norv was the choice.

"The plan" is coming together I guess. :eek:
 
silverbear;1342478 said:
Norv's gonna be in Tony's head right from the start, count on it...

Assuming he's actually the choice...

Its not him working with Romo I am worried about I KNOW he will do well in that, its the rest of the job that concerns me
 
silverbear;1342474 said:
I'll be right here... but if you think I'm gonna argue this team lacks talent, you're an idiot...

But I guess one has to be an idiot to be the proud owner of his very own Jerry Jones voodoo doll...

I can vouch for SilverBear on this. He will be here. We had epic battles on another board for two years in regard to Carter/Hutch. We were both wrong.
 
BigDFan5;1342475 said:
I would love him to mentor romo as an OC but thats not possible. As HC he will be responsible for everthng from offense to defense gameplans, etc.

In his previous stops He couldnt get the teams to believe in him IMO. We talk about how bad the skins were but he had a part in keeping them that way he had a hand in draftng some of these guys we call busts, and had 1 good season.

I will give him a chance like I would any coach, but if its true that he is going to be hired my expectations for next season are about 7 or 8 wins. I would love to say I was wrong at this time next year, but I fear I wont need too as we are searching for another new coach

lol people who use the raiders and Commanders to try and prove a pointless point crack me up. especially this one. talking about players not believeing in a coach, with a owner who meddles in everything. what coach can actually earn a teams trust like that? ovbiously not even a HOF coach like gibbs.
 
BrAinPaiNt;1342323 said:
This Offense could already score...I was really hoping for someone that would have came in and made this defense great...esp considering we have went defense in the first round of the drafts of late.

Maybe that person is already a coach on this team.

As I see it what separates this defense from the top defenses in the league is the lack of aggressiveness-- and that can vary considerably from one defensive coach to another. We've heard some rumblings that Bowles didn't agree with Zimmer and Zimmer didn't agree with Parcells.

My guess is that Bowles has a much more aggressive mindset than did Zimmer or Parcells.

But the fact remains we could have the coordinator on this staff that we need to make this a top-10 defense.
 
Norv as OC... Cool :cool:

Norv as HC... :puke:

Pretty much all I have to say about it.

Is what it is...
 
Yakuza Rich;1342481 said:
Uh, does Oakland ring a bell? Did Miami have a top offense with Norv as O-Coordinator? What about the Chargers?



Actually, Norv is pretty much a 2 back, 1 TE, 2 WR set guy. His offenses like to throw deep, but I wouldn't put him in the category of having wide open offenses.

Here's the thing, we lost the NFC East this year because of the defense. So why hire a guy like Norv?

It's hard to believe JJT after he was convinced Parcells was going to stay, so Norv may not even be a serious candidate for all we know. But hiring Norv would be a bad move. And if they are hiring Norv to be a stopgap for either Fisher, Cowher or Garrett, then Jones should refund a lot of money back to the fans.

Even if Garrett does indeed look like the next good, young HC in the NFL. I think you're better off hiring another promising HC. Why not give yourself 2 shots at finding the right guy instead of just one?

I like Norv and respect what he's done for Dallas and the game of football, but if he's hired my Sundays will be spent playing golf instead.



YAKUZA

Go polish your clubs. I don't believe you, but if you are being homest, than you were never a Cowboys fan to start with.

It's simple, Jerry really trusts Turner and Turner will get the best out of an already very good Tony Romo.

Stop worrying about the defense. The HC ususally has very little to do with the defense anyway. We will get a DC to be proud of (Singletary)
 
Should have just went with Garrett.

Like someone said earlier Turner would have been great replacing Jimmy in 1994 but now he just seems wrong. I mean he may be good for Romo but what about the rest of the team...There is more to a team than just the QB. This is Turner/Aikman dancing around in Jerry's head.

If you waited this long why wouldn't you at least talk to Rivera?
 
ConcordCowboy;1342497 said:
Should have just went with Garrett.

Like someone said earlier Turner would have been great replacing Jimmy in 1994 but now he just seems wrong. I mean he may be good for Romo but what about the rest of the team...There is more to a team than just the QB. This is Turner/Aikman dancing around in Jerry's head.

If you waited this long why wouldn't you at least talk to Rivera?

When we draft Ginn with our first pick, you will be happier.
 

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