Joe Theismann: Any GM who trades for Tony Romo's 'damaged goods' should lose his job

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And the same comments were made by some people before the 2nd collarbone break, and then the 3rd. Or after the 1st back injury, or the 2nd. There comes a time whenever people can't cover their eyes any longer.

There is zero medical evidence that suggests Romo is more susceptible to spinal injury than any other player. His two back injuries were completely unrelated. The first was transverse process injury, which entailed fractures of two bones on the exterior of the spine, and the second was a compression fracture of an actual vertebra, an injury which when completely healed presents no added likelihood of re-injury. I don't know about his collarbone. He re-injured the left one last year before it was completely healed, but he had surgery this offseason to reinforce the bone.

But I know people are going to believe what they want to.
 

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True, he was on most of it thou and are you really going to pay that much for a QB who has that history? Are you going to give a number 1 for that? If you do, you better be very, very secure and I mean Belichick type secure in your position because if you are wrong, it's your job. Who in the NFL is that secure and needs Tony? I mean, who are you trying to kid here? You think he's going to be a starter, based on what?

2010, broken collarbone. Missed 10 games but most of it was not put on IR. That doesn't change the fact that he missed 10 games. Are you going to pay for that if you another team?

2013, he was injured with a ruptured disk and missed the most important game of the season for us. Winner take all against Philly and what happened? Are you going to pay for that if you are another team?

2014 Transverse Fracture. He only missed the one game I believe but it's still another back injury. Are you going to pay for that if you are another team?

2015 Broken collarbone. Missed 7 games. Came back to play one game, was injured again in the 2nd with another Collarbone break and was out the rest of the season. Are you going to pay for that if you are another team?

2016 Compression Fracture. Never even saw the field in a regular season game. 3rd play of the preseason game against Seattle, done. Now he is the backup. Are you going to pay for that if you are another team?

Another team could trade for him but I think it's unlikely we see anybody pay what he's making now and I think we aren't going to see a 1st round pick for Tony. You are basically betting your job on it if you do that.
You have it backwards.........most GMs need to win now and will sell out the future......the Cowboys, Pats and Packers are different

ProBowl QBs are gold.......don't care if they are 36........Romo makes any team he joins an instant playoff team in this parity filled league......that is worth more than a first
 

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Any player that ends up on the IR will be overpaid, that goes without saying. James Hanna is overpaid by that standard. Any team trading for Romo is going to do their homework on his physical condition but he has already been cleared to play by the Cowboys.

Romo's injuries aren't cumulative like knee or hip injuries. The last two were essentially flukes that are unrelated and may never happen again.

And Payton Manning had a very serious neck injury and an albatross contract when he was cut by the Colts. The "going rate" at that point wasn't 3/48 like you say, it was 5/96 with 58 Million guaranteed. And that was with a more serious injury than Romo. Manning did have a Super Bowl ring and is a better player, but Romo has been to four Pro Bowls. The idea that he is brittle or that he was never any good to begin with are completely made up.

Your story, you tell it but I ask you again, what GM or GMs are secure enough to be able trade for a player like Tony in exchange for a 1st? You may have convinced yourself he is worth a 1st but that doesn't mean he is.
 

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You have it backwards.........most GMs need to win now and will sell out the future......the Cowboys, Pats and Packers are different

ProBowl QBs are gold.......don't care if they are 36........Romo makes any team he joins an instant playoff team in this parity filled league......that is worth more than a first

If he were healthy and a few years younger.

Those two combinations don't favor Romo netting a first-round pick.

I do think Romo can fetch a draft pick, but not a first rounder. No san GM would offer a first-round pick for Romo given his age and his series of injuries.
 

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Manning was cut by the Colts because he had a worse injury than Romo and a 28 Million dollar bonus due on top of his salary. If Romo had that kind of cap hit for next year he would be an automatic cut and no one would be posting about this.

Instead Romo is scheduled to make less money next year than guys like Jay Cutler, which is part of the equation in trade discussions.

Manning was cut because they had Luck. If the Colts do not get Luck, they don't cut Manning.

Edit: Remember, the Colts tried to trade Manning and they couldn't. He was eventually cut.
 

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Manning was also a generational QB.. Romo isnt.

I can't argue but one idea. Manning was an all-world 1st round draft pick who was expected to be a generational QB.
Romo was an undrafted free agent who wasn't expected to make an NFL squad. I think Romo has done all right for
himself over the years and if he'd had a better team might have had as many SB's as the Manning bros.
Just sayin...
 

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Manning was cut by the Colts because he had a worse injury than Romo and a 28 Million dollar bonus due on top of his salary. If Romo had that kind of cap hit for next year he would be an automatic cut and no one would be posting about this.

Instead Romo is scheduled to make less money next year than guys like Jay Cutler, which is part of the equation in trade discussions.
Tony is also due 0m in guarantees.....his contract is just a suggestion.......it would be in his best interest to renegotiate his deal to add some guarantees if he is traded
 

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If he were healthy and a few years younger.

Those two combinations don't favor Romo netting a first-round pick.

I do think Romo can fetch a draft pick, but not a first rounder. No san GM would offer a first-round pick for Romo given his age and his series of injuries.

I agree with this, but it doesn't change the facts that Theezman is 1) wrong, and 2) a moron.
 

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There is zero medical evidence that suggests Romo is more susceptible to spinal injury than any other player. His two back injuries were completely unrelated. The first was transverse process injury, which entailed fractures of two bones on the exterior of the spine, and the second was a compression fracture of an actual vertebra, an injury which when completely healed presents no added likelihood of re-injury. I don't know about his collarbone. He re-injured the left one last year before it was completely healed, but he had surgery this offseason to reinforce the bone.

But I know people are going to believe what they want to.

Oh, I think there is. He's 36 and he's beaten up. Medical evidence, and there is plenty of it, suggest that 36 year old QBs don't last in the NFL. Come on, you are saying this stuff as if we haven't watched football our whole lives. You know what happens to older players. You also know that teams are never going to publish finding on injuries unless they are at a point where they believe there is no value in a player. You publish medical reports that say he is susceptible to injury and you are basically asking for a law suit. Nobody is going to confirm that. Come on.
 

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You guys ever notice how much these old heads really do hate the Cowboys and all the attention they get? God imagine if we win like 3 Super Bowls in 4 years again and we literally have new triplets. For a decade.

Sometimes football can be boring as an adult but that would get everyone talking again. Everyone already hates dez. Zeke is a superstar. And dak has the likability of Tom hanks on a pogo stick in a bouncy castle whatever that means

I'm surprised that people are surprised Theismann hates the Cowboys. Joe entered the league in 1974, which coincides with late Washington Commanders Coach George Allen (1970-77). Allen is considered the coach who stoked the flames of the Commanders-Cowboys rivalry to epic proportions.
He HATED the Cowboys with utter intensity. And this filtered to his players.

It's little wonder that Theismann would hold a negative opinion of the Cowboys and their players.

Having said that, it doesn't bother me in the least.
 

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Romo is a poor investment for any teamnat this point in his career
Most of you guys are completely underestimating how rare it is that a QB as good as Romo hits the market....it just never happens

If Dak wasn't here Tony would be the QB of the Super Bowl contending Cowboys and one of the top 10 QBs in the game.......Dak being on a win streak doesn't make Romo a worse QB.....it is just a very unique situation.......

Romo and Dak are both too good to be back-ups....imagine if DAL made Dak available instead
 

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I agree with this, but it doesn't change the facts that Theezman is 1) wrong, and 2) a moron.

We don't know if he is wrong. The future will reveal whether he is or isn't.
As for whether he's a moron, I'm not even going to argue that.
 

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Most of you guys are completely underestimating how rare it is that a QB as good as Romo hits the market....it just never happens

If Dak wasn't here Tony would be the QB of the Super Bowl contending Cowboys and one of the top 10 QBs in the game.......Dak being on a win streak doesn't make Romo a worse QB.....it is just a very unique situation.......

Romo and Dak are both too good to be back-ups....imagine if DAL made Dak available instead

I think you're discounting age and Tony's health. I think a team would pick him up, but not with a first-round pick. I just don't see it.
 

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If he were healthy and a few years younger.

Those two combinations don't favor Romo netting a first-round pick.

I do think Romo can fetch a draft pick, but not a first rounder. No san GM would offer a first-round pick for Romo given his age and his series of injuries.

You're wasting your breath with the Romo homers. They observe everything through a vacuum (ideal conditions). However, REALITY shows Romo can't stay healthy and it has only gotten worse with age. His remaining talent is irrelevant if he can't stay on the field.
 

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Manning was cut because they had Luck. If the Colts do not get Luck, they don't cut Manning.

Edit: Remember, the Colts tried to trade Manning and they couldn't. He was eventually cut.

Actually Luck was drafted because Manning was a health risk and had a cap hit of 35 Million for the coming year.
 

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**** off Theismann, your Super Bowl was won off a nine game schedule.

Lots of GM's will be interested in Romo if he passes their physical and looks good in drills.

Again, shaddup Theismann. Your SB has an asterisk. And Riggins (who was twice the player and man as you) won the SB MVP.
Ohh that's cold and I love your brutal honesty about Joe Criesman.
 

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You're wasting your breath with the Romo homers. They observe everything through a vacuum (ideal conditions). However, REALITY shows Romo can't stay healthy and it has only gotten worse with age. His remaining talent is irrelevant if he can't stay on the field.
Romo homers........that is rich........we are called intelligent Cowboys fans.....go find a new team to hate on
 

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Your story, you tell it but I ask you again, what GM or GMs are secure enough to be able trade for a player like Tony in exchange for a 1st? You may have convinced yourself he is worth a 1st but that doesn't mean he is.

#1 - I've never said he brings back a #1, I'm thinking its something like a #2 or a group of conditional picks.

And like @bkight13 said, job insecurity makes it MORE likely a GM trades a draft pick for a veteran Pro Bowl QB - not less.
 
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