Joe Theismann: Any GM who trades for Tony Romo's 'damaged goods' should lose his job

[Kaiser]

Of course you are not, but what they were paying or not paying Manning was never going to make a difference in them taking Luck. Go ahead, try and explain it to everyone and see what you get.

Here, I'll explain it.

Abqcowboy thinks Indy would have paid Manning 35 Million for one season, then cut half the players on their team to get under the salary cap in order to have a major injury risk as a backup or mentoring a rookie with an 18 Million dollar cap hit.

He thinks Indy would have spent 53 Million and 44% of their entire cap on QBs.

He is wrong.

 

[T-RO]

Actualy the silly children don't realize that a team acquiring Romo doesn't take the cap hit for his signing bonus, but only 14 Million in salary for 2017. At the moment that would make Romo the 22nd highest paid QB in the NFL for 2017.

Learn the facts before you start name-calling.

Fair enough.

Let's look at Manning for comparison.

-Manning was 36 with a back/neck injury issue
-Manning was coming off a 4700 yard season
-The highest bidder gave up $15 mil per year and no draft picks

-Romo will be 37 with 5 recent injuries/surgeries
-Romo will only have played a handful of games in the past two seasons.
-Some team is going to offer $14 mil and a premium draft pick?

 

[Nightman]

That was the rub with DWare, they were willing to pay him something like 6 - 8 Million but not 10. They clearly should have gone higher in what they offered DeMarcus.

I fell for the cap relief angle and that he was on the decline and couldn't play in the 4-3....but it was a huge mistake to give him away for nothing.......he had multiple offers in 30 seconds

 

[Kaiser]

-Manning was 36 with a back/neck injury issue
-The highest bidder game up $15 mil per year and no draft picks

-Romo will be 37 with 5 recent injuries/surgeries
-Some team is going to offer $14 mil and a premium draft pick?

Absolutely. The difference is two things -

Manning was given 58 million guaranteed while none of Romo's contract is guaranteed money.

The other difference is that there was zero chance the Colts would Manning and Luck on the roster together, they literally wouldn't have been able to field a 53 man roster with players above the minimum salary.

So NFL teams knew that Manning was going to be cut, there was zero reason to make a trade. Dallas on the other hand is clearly getting informal offers, which is exactly why Jerry is giving nonsensical press quotes about Romo playing in Dallas for five more years. Dallas will have more than one offer, and that is all it takes to get bidding going.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Here, I'll explain it.

Abqcowboy thinks Indy would have paid Manning 35 Million for one season, then cut half the players on their team to get under the salary cap in order to have a major injury risk as a backup or mentoring a rookie with an 18 Million dollar cap hit.

He thinks Indy would have spent 53 Million and 44% of their entire cap on QBs.

He is wrong.

You seem to have difficulty explaining yourself. Please, don't try and explain what it is you think I'm saying.

For the record, I don't think what the Colts were or were not paying Manning ever entered into what they were going to do. I think regardless of the situation, they were going to take Luck because he was the best, highest rated player coming out, at the most important position. Had they decided to keep Manning, restructure, franchise, trade, whatever, they were always going to draft Luck and Manning never really played into it.

I also think that Tony and Manning are not the same thing. GMs don't look at Tony the way they did Manning and that's never going to change.

 

[ufcrules1]

Former Commanders quarterback Joe Theismann has said for months that Tony Romo should quit football. So it's not shocking that Theismann, who led Washington to a Super Bowl win in his 12 years with the team, thinks the guy he deems fragile isn't leaving Dallas.

"Let's put this Tony Romo stuff to bed, OK?" Theismann told Bleacher Report Radio. "The man's had three back surgeries, he has a collar bone that's been broken twice, he's 36 years old, he plays behind - the last couple years he played behind probably the best offensive line in football [and] hasn't finished a season in the last five.

"Any general manager that would make a deal for Tony Romo shouldn't keep their job as general manager. It's a bad business decision plus what offensive line is going to be the same one he has in Dallas?

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http://www.allenbwest.com/michaelcantrell/boom-michigan-just-crashed-hillarys-pity-party

Yeah, he nailed it. I hate that he is trashing Romo but he is right.

 

[ufcrules1]

although we hate the message and the messenger probably even more, I don't disagree. If I were a GM, I wouldn't give up much for Romo.

I wouldn't either.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

When introduced, one could say "4 time Pro Bowl QB, Tony Romo". That is what the other poster was stating. His resume says he's
been selected to 4 Pro Bowls.

If you're going to bench me for cracking a joke, that says plenty. Maybe, instead, just relax and realize there was zero malice in either
of my comments. However, your comments included threats and poor attitude. I will just assume you're having a bad day.

If this were his retirement speech, then I would agree. However, and this does not have to be explained to you BTW, saying he is a Pro Bowl QB is not accurate. Right now, today, he is very far away from that and everybody knows it. He is a QB who has missed a lot of games and is much, much closer to the end the he is to the Pro Bowls he once played in. He is not a Pro Bowl QB today and everybody knows that.

Tell better jokes and you won't get benched.

 

[T-RO]

I fell for the cap relief angle and that he was on the decline and couldn't play in the 4-3....but it was a huge mistake to give him away for nothing.......he had multiple offers in 30 seconds

How many offers did Ware get for $16 million?

Hell...how many offers did Ware get for $14 million per year? For $12 mil? How about $11 mil?

Yet you think Jerry was supposed to find a GM to trade for that bloated $16m contract, coming off his six sack season.... AND give us picks?

I have a hunch you don't know how to balance your checkbook.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You were clearly confused by the phrase

Or maybe you are just not getting get. I know what you were trying to do and say. Just because I am not going along with it doesn't mean I don't understand.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Absolutely. The difference is two things -

Manning was given 58 million guaranteed while none of Romo's contract is guaranteed money.

The other difference is that there was zero chance the Colts would Manning and Luck on the roster together, they literally wouldn't have been able to field a 53 man roster with players above the minimum salary.

So NFL teams knew that Manning was going to be cut, there was zero reason to make a trade. Dallas on the other hand is clearly getting informal offers, which is exactly why Jerry is giving nonsensical press quotes about Romo playing in Dallas for five more years. Dallas will have more than one offer, and that is all it takes to get bidding going.

Actually, we don't know this. In any renegotiation, there could well be guaranteed money. Now, that being the case, I don't really expect many teams to value Tony as much as many on this board do. There are a hand full of teams he can really help IMO. Fewer still that can afford him, assuming he decides to simply leave for less money. Only a couple that I think he might consider going to. He may just decide to stay and not leave if the situation is not right or, he may decide to retire, which is what I hope he does. To be honest, I am not looking forward to watching Tony play for another team. I don't see it going well for him and I don't want that for Tony.

JMO

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, I don't think everyone agrees with that. Otherwise, there wouldn't be 13 pages of this. So, bad jokes get you benched now? Nice.

Clearly everybody does not agree with that but I'd be willing to bet that most probably do.

Are you still posting? If they answer is yes, then clearly, you have the answer to your benching question right?

JMO

 

[Nightman]

If this were his retirement speech, then I would agree. However, and this does not have to be explained to you BTW, saying he is a Pro Bowl QB is not accurate. Right now, today, he is very far away from that and everybody knows it. He is a QB who has missed a lot of games and is much, much closer to the end the he is to the Pro Bowls he once played in. He is not a Pro Bowl QB today and everybody knows that.

Tell better jokes and you won't get benched.

Once a Pro Bowler always a ProBowler.........that is how it works.......Eli Manning is still a SB MVP

 

[T-RO]

Absolutely. The difference is two things -

Manning was given 58 million guaranteed while none of Romo's contract is guaranteed money.

The other difference is that there was zero chance the Colts would Manning and Luck on the roster together, they literally wouldn't have been able to field a 53 man roster with players above the minimum salary.

So NFL teams knew that Manning was going to be cut, there was zero reason to make a trade. Dallas on the other hand is clearly getting informal offers, which is exactly why Jerry is giving nonsensical press quotes about Romo playing in Dallas for five more years. Dallas will have more than one offer, and that is all it takes to get bidding going.

You are conflating the issue. I'm not talking about Indy's situation at all. I'm simply talking about player value after he'd been released. The highest bidder on Manning in free agency was $15 mil per season...with no picks lost in the transaction. Manning was younger, healthier, and most would conclude....better. Most importantly Manning wasn't 2 years removed from play as Romo will be.

I'm a huge believer in a healthy vibrant Romo. Totally elite. But that guy doesn't exist anymore.

Jerry hasn't gotten any offers bro, so don't be weaving straw. Teams don't talk trades this time of year, period.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Once a Pro Bowler always a ProBowler.........that is how it works.......Eli Manning is still a SB MVP

Yep. Lets see how many teams pay Tony like a Pro Bowler next year. That will be the answer to the question ultimately. I'm guessing very few will be willing to step up and give him 20 million but it could happen. However, if it does, I doubt that there will be many.

 

[Kaiser]

You are conflating the issue. I'm not talking about Indy's situation at all. I'm simply talking about player value after he'd been released. The highest bidder on Manning in free agency was $15 mil per season...with no picks lost in the transaction. Manning was younger, healthier, and most would conclude....better. Most importantly Manning wasn't 2 years removed from play as Romo will be.

Jerry hasn't gotten any offers bro, so don't be weaving straw. Teams don't talk trades this time of year, period.

Manning was better but not healthier, he was a bigger injury risk that Romo. And he signed for 5/96 with 58MM guaranteed, I don't see how that adds up to 15MM per.

Teams and agents talk offline constantly, they don't make formal offers but Dallas knows who is interested from back channel communications.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Manning was better but not healthier, he was a bigger injury risk that Romo. And he signed for 5/96 with 58MM guaranteed, I don't see how that adds up to 15MM per.

Teams and agents talk offline constantly, they don't make formal offers but Dallas knows who is interested from back channel communications.

Why do you insist that Manning's injury was more of a risk? I mean, I don't know, I'm not a Doctor but that is not what I recall when this was being discussed a few years ago.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Seems that there are GMS that should already lose their jobs, so why not trade a premium pick for Romo before they leave town!

 

[LittleD]

No, he wasn't. The only Pro Bowl QBs right now are Brady, Cam, Palmer, Rodgers, Roethlisberger and Wilson. All the rest sat home. Tony has been a Pro Bowler but he isn't now and he wasn't last year.

That statement is nonsensical on its face. Romo was hurt most of 2015 and was hurt this year in 2016. Hard to make Pro-Bowl when you're hurt. Romo was absolutely Pro-Bowl in 2014 and played
All-Pro in December of that year. Oh, by the way...Rodgers has sucked this year.

 

[RoboQB]

Yep. Lets see how many teams pay Tony like a Pro Bowler next year. That will be the answer to the question ultimately. I'm guessing very few will be willing to step up and give him 20 million but it could happen. However, if it does, I doubt that there will be many.

It only takes one.