News: Joey Bosa is a throwback… and that's OK

[CCBoy]

Joey Bosa is a throwback… and that's OK

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2016/03/21/joey-bosa-is-a-throwback-and-thats-ok/aslnyh9/




There's something about the way Joey Bosa plays that is, in a word, cruel.

The way he bursts through a defender with a bevy of moves – the stutter step, the rip – none more pronounced than the old bull rush. The way he beats up the biggest players from the biggest programs in the biggest games simply by running right through them. The way he celebrates a sack or a tackle for loss with a signature shrug that says, "No big deal," even though it's the biggest deal in the world.

The way he plays means everything at this time of the year, on the bridge between college stardom and NFL success, because not all of them make it.

Impressive as Bosa's accomplishments at Ohio State were – going from freshman All-American to two straight years as the Big Ten Conference's defensive lineman of the year, with a national championship to boot – this draft class is filled with players who can boast similar ones.

But nobody else entering this year's NFL Draft does the things Bosa does and how he does them, with such reckless abandon and seeming unawareness of the magnitude. It makes you wonder why the film you're watching isn't in black and white...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'll bump it just to increase the cognitive dissonance.

 

[Idgit]

If he lands in our boat, I'd be tempted to throw him back.

Not really. He's a good player. Just, underwhelming. But I sort of felt the same way about Zack Martin in 2014. You just knew he would work out. High floor, decent ceiling. I'll take it and count it as a win if I have to. Though I'd rather have the QB.

 

[NeonNinja]

I just don't know about Bosa. I think he will be a good player, but I'm not sure how good. Having a hard time reading him and not seeing an elite player right now. Perhaps he will dominate.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

If he lands in our boat, I'd be tempted to throw him back.

Not really. He's a good player. Just, underwhelming. But I sort of felt the same way about Zack Martin in 2014. You just knew he would work out. High floor, decent ceiling. I'll take it and count it as a win if I have to. Though I'd rather have the QB.

I think if Spence was still on the other side of him then Bosa would have gone number one overall. Watching the games in 2015, teams just game-planned away from him a lot of times. Double, triple teams, chips. Teams made sure to try and keep Bosa from wrecking the game and that type of plan would not have been doable if Spence was still there on the opposite side. A lot of people here are just looking at Bosa's stats in 2015 and a few youtube clips and running with conclusions without realizing that Bosa was getting the Dez Bryant treatment every single game from the opposing team. He had to earn every single tackle and every single pressure in 2015. Yet he came hard every single play from first snap to the final one.

Dallas could use that type of tenacity on the D-line. It hasn't been there in a long time.

 

[Idgit]

I think if Spence was still on the other side of him then Bosa would have gone number one overall. Watching the games in 2015, teams just game-planned away from him a lot of times. Double, triple teams, chips. Teams made sure to try and keep Bosa from wrecking the game and that type of plan would not have been doable if Spence was still there on the opposite side. A lot of people here are just looking at Bosa's stats in 2015 and a few youtube clips and running with conclusions without realizing that Bosa was getting the Dez Bryant treatment every single game from the opposing team. He had to earn every single tackle and every single pressure in 2015. Yet he came hard every single play from first snap to the final one.

Dallas could use that type of tenacity on the D-line. It hasn't been there in a long time.

I find him growing on me as the process goes on. I still want the QB first, but that's kind of a different problem, really. But Bosa and, say, Karl Joseph, maybe, would be a pretty big lift to the defense.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

Something to note is that Bosa is still ONLY 20 years of age RIGHT NOW. That means at some point he was only 18 & 19 in college demanding double and triple teams at times. I reason that Bosa still has plenty of room for growth in both build and talent, as well as coming from a family that has a "NFL pedigree."

While Bosa wouldn't be as sexy as a pick as a Ramsey or an Elliott, I believe his youth brings a lot of upside that Rod M. would be licking his chops over (as opposed to the Mincey's & the Golden Cocks of the world) to develop into a man-force on our DL.

I really wouldn't be that upset at coming away with either Goff, Ramsey, Wentz, or Bosa at #4.

 

[speedkilz88]

I throw him back.

 

[CCBoy]

Something to note is that Bosa is still ONLY 20 years of age RIGHT NOW. That means at some point he was only 18 & 19 in college demanding double and triple teams at times. I reason that Bosa still has plenty of room for growth in both build and talent, as well as coming from a family that has a "NFL pedigree."

While Bosa wouldn't be as sexy as a pick as a Ramsey or an Elliott, I believe his youth brings a lot of upside that Rod M. would be licking his chops over (as opposed to the Mincey's & the Golden Cocks of the world) to develop into a man-force on our DL.

I really wouldn't be that upset at coming away with either Goff, Ramsey, Wentz, or Bosa at #4.

He can really add some professional strength, if pushed in the weight room still.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Dude......

 

[Zimmy Lives]

If he lands in our boat, I'd be tempted to throw him back.

Not really. He's a good player. Just, underwhelming. But I sort of felt the same way about Zack Martin in 2014. You just knew he would work out. High floor, decent ceiling. I'll take it and count it as a win if I have to. Though I'd rather have the QB.

I was going to same the same thing!

There was nothing flashy about Martin but he was a solid, can't miss football player according to the draft experts. These are the same experts saying Bosa will be a solid draft pick in the top five.

 

[chagus]

Didn't know he was only 20. He would only get better.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It really is kind of weird.

 

[Chuck 54]

In the new NFL where teams pass more than run, we fall in love with fast DEs that beat the OT off the ball and are into the backfield untouched a few times per game, so we similarly undervalue the traditional DE who controls his side of the DL. Bosa plays in the opposition's backfield. He has been everything you want a college DE to be, healthy and consistent, recognized by his conference as the best every year. He will make big plays in the run game, big plays and pressures in the red zone, and he will be an excellent pass rusher who will make a difference. Yet fans give him the cold shoulder because they want a sprinter at DE. If we draft him at #4, he will be great for our defense. If we pass on him, he will be great for someone else, but we will find our own great player at 4.

However, the idea that fans would stage a meltdown at adding Bosa at #4 is just ridiculous.

 

[reddyuta]

I think its in part because of DWare,he was the best player and had in for more than a decade and we subconsciously are setting a standard for pass rushers especially at the top of the draft.

 

[AKATheRake]

Something to note is that Bosa is still ONLY 20 years of age RIGHT NOW. That means at some point he was only 18 & 19 in college demanding double and triple teams at times. I reason that Bosa still has plenty of room for growth in both build and talent, as well as coming from a family that has a "NFL pedigree."

While Bosa wouldn't be as sexy as a pick as a Ramsey or an Elliott, I believe his youth brings a lot of upside that Rod M. would be licking his chops over (as opposed to the Mincey's & the Golden Cocks of the world) to develop into a man-force on our DL.

I really wouldn't be that upset at coming away with either Goff, Ramsey, Wentz, or Bosa at #4.

That's a helluva really good point.

 

[AKATheRake]

[quote="Joe Rod, post: 6603845, member: 1083"]I think if Spence was still on the other side of him then Bosa would have gone number one overall. Watching the games in 2015, teams just game-planned away from him a lot of times. Double, triple teams, chips. Teams made sure to try and keep Bosa from wrecking the game and that type of plan would not have been doable if Spence was still there on the opposite side. A lot of people here are just looking at Bosa's stats in 2015 and a few youtube clips and running with conclusions without realizing that Bosa was getting the Dez Bryant treatment every single game from the opposing team. He had to earn every single tackle and every single pressure in 2015. Yet he came hard every single play from first snap to the final one.

Dallas could use that type of tenacity on the D-line. It hasn't been there in a long time.[/quote]


That's a helluva really good point.

 

[chagus]

Ok. If we get Bosa im cool with it.

 

[BigStar]

Dude......

Who is Randy Gregory for the win Alex https://encrypted-tbn2.***NOT-ALLOWED***/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSL0Tia8Pd07L-3qDF78qtBp4qtRZwQYxeJMvMOkp_2cyrHEsbL

 

[Gaede]

If he lands in our boat, I'd be tempted to throw him back.

Not really. He's a good player. Just, underwhelming. But I sort of felt the same way about Zack Martin in 2014. You just knew he would work out. High floor, decent ceiling. I'll take it and count it as a win if I have to. Though I'd rather have the QB.

Problem is, Martin was high character. I don't know if Bosa is