Joey Harrington to be cut tomorrow

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WoodysGirl;1393477 said:
Was reading in the Chron the other day and unless something extreme happens, the Texans are sticking with Carr. Tho they are considering taking another QB in the draft.

Harrington and Volek would be solid choices. Tho, if it came down to an extended period, I'd like Harrington over Volek. Tho I'm not even sure Volek's available. He's in SF now, right?

Wright at one time had some potential, but now has shown that he's barely a backup.

Rattay and Huard would be good choices, as well.

I don't love Rattay for us. I don't think he can really play outside of a WCO but I could be wrong. I agree with you on Wright. After the way Huard played last year, I would not be surprised if someone gave him a shot to try and start but I agree with you, he would be a very nice backup option as well. Still, for me, Brad Johnson would be ideal. Everybody thinks he's a fence post but if you look at his performance over his career, you see that the guy makes good decisions with the football (when protected), gets rid of the ball quickly which allows him to avoid sacks and throws few INTs. He's seen everything that can be thrown at him in the NFL and he's won games. I would think that he's at the point in his career where starting is probably not as important for him. He would probably be a guy who could deal with the back up role. He would understand what was expected of him. I just think he's probably the best backup option out there for us. Of course, assuming he would be interested in that role in Dallas.
 

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Yeagermeister;1393481 said:
Volek is in SD
I knew he was in Cali somewhere. :)
ABQCOWBOY;1393493 said:
I don't love Rattay for us. I don't think he can really play outside of a WCO but I could be wrong. I agree with you on Wright. After the way Huard played last year, I would not be surprised if someone gave him a shot to try and start but I agree with you, he would be a very nice backup option as well. Still, for me, Brad Johnson would be ideal. Everybody thinks he's a fence post but if you look at his performance over his career, you see that the guy makes good decisions with the football (when protected), gets rid of the ball quickly which allows him to avoid sacks and throws few INTs. He's seen everything that can be thrown at him in the NFL and he's won games. I would think that he's at the point in his career where starting is probably not as important for him. He would probably be a guy who could deal with the back up role. He would understand what was expected of him. I just think he's probably the best backup option out there for us. Of course, assuming he would be interested in that role in Dallas.
Johnson would be an excellent backup, even though his arm is shot. He'd be somewhat familiar with the offense, depending on whether Garrett brings some of Norv's offense with him.

I think Rattay could handle a non-WC offense. He seemed to be able to go vertical on Dallas when he was in SF.

Huard would be my first choice.

But if we were looking for starter insurance in case Romo falters, then I'd rather go with a young guy like Harrington.
 

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yea i think harrington would be great, some of you are expecting wayyyy too much from a backup QB.. theres not even enough starting quality quarterbacks in the league for all the teams. Harrington would be more than a good back up for romo, he's young and has experiance with Garret.
 

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I think Harrington would make for a good backup and his work with Garrett would only be a plus
 

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He really only good if he has good people around him so if Romo gets hurt I wouldnt mind if he was in.
 

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lpmba1;1393233 said:
NFL Network reporting that Joey Harrington will be released tomorrow. Would we have any interest in him as a backup?

I personally love the thought, I think he is what a team would look for as a backup. Has good talent, started for a few years, a young vet. He's not a "great" QB but if he was "great" he wouldn't be backing up Tony Romo so yeah I think harrington would be an awesome pickup

I hope he gets released.
 

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I think that it will come down to how Garrett feels about him. Not sure what kind of $$ he will be asking for. Anyone know what the Dolphins signed him for last year?
 

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He's a name and he does have connections to Garrett but I wonder if that is a positive for him.

The reason I say that is because he had a couple decent games when he took over the starting job, but I watched him late in the year and he STUNK the joint up in the last few games. He was horrendous against the Bills!
 

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It would be a great fit if we could get him cheap.....he is not a bad QB.....he just presses sometimes and gets in binds trying to make the big throw!
 

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Let's put it this way - in a dumbed down, west coast-style two-read (at most) offense last year, Harrington was upside down in TD-INT's, completed less than 60% of his passes, and posted a QB rating of 68 with a ypa under 6. If you didn't watch the Dolphins every game last year, or the Lions for years before that, you really (REALLY) cannot appreciate how inept he is. The only tie is that he "knows" Garrett, as in he's met him. They did not run Garrett's offense in Miami.

Brad Johnson and Tim Rattay remain the most reasonable choices. Guys like that, who have been around, had a measure of success, are used to being backups and making observations from the sidelines. Joey offers nothing - I think my "manage the game for 3 quarters" estimate was too generous.

The Dolphins don't want him around, benched him in favor of Cleo Lemon, and they've got Culpepper at the helm - who knows how reliable he is? Joey's a likeable guy, but he is not a QB in any sense of the word.
 

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BLT;1393530 said:
yea i think harrington would be great, some of you are expecting wayyyy too much from a backup QB.. theres not even enough starting quality quarterbacks in the league for all the teams. Harrington would be more than a good back up for romo, he's young and has experiance with Garret.

Exactly - some folks still think you can sign a backup who can come in and be a hero - realistically the best you can settle for is someone who can come in and hand the ball off and not make too many mistakes in the passing game. Harrington is as good as any backup option I've seen -- I would think that he'd be more likely to sign somewhere that he might have a better shot at playing. I don't think the Garrett bond is so strong that he'd come here for that -- it isn't like Garrett rescued his career -- the way he played in Miami was pretty consistent with his work in Detroit
 

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superpunk;1393582 said:
The Dolphins don't want him around, benched him in favor of Cleo Lemon, and they've got Culpepper at the helm - who knows how reliable he is? Joey's a likeable guy, but he is not a QB in any sense of the word.

Wow, if this is true, he must have Oregon fooled since they gave him a scholarship and let him start at QB, .. and he has the Lions and Dolphins fooled as well since they both paid him to play QB for them.

And yet, "he is not a QB in any sense of the word." :eek:hno:
 

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WV Cowboy;1393590 said:
Wow, if this is true, he must have Oregon fooled since they gave him a scholarship and let him start at QB, .. and he has the Lions and Dolphins fooled as well since they both paid him to play QB for them.

And yet, "he is not a QB in any sense of the word."

Ryan Leaf got paid to play QB for years, too. You can take my hyperbole literally if it makes you happy, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.
 

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superpunk;1393582 said:
Let's put it this way - in a dumbed down, west coast-style two-read (at most) offense last year, Harrington was upside down in TD-INT's, completed less than 60% of his passes, and posted a QB rating of 68 with a ypa under 6. If you didn't watch the Dolphins every game last year, or the Lions for years before that, you really (REALLY) cannot appreciate how inept he is. The only tie is that he "knows" Garrett, as in he's met him. They did not run Garrett's offense in Miami.

Brad Johnson and Tim Rattay remain the most reasonable choices. Guys like that, who have been around, had a measure of success, are used to being backups and making observations from the sidelines. Joey offers nothing - I think my "manage the game for 3 quarters" estimate was too generous.

The Dolphins don't want him around, benched him in favor of Cleo Lemon, and they've got Culpepper at the helm - who knows how reliable he is? Joey's a likeable guy, but he is not a QB in any sense of the word.

I'd prefer to go for Huard or Brad Johnson or Rattay over Harrington.

My first preference would be for Brad Johnson and then to draft a young QB "to groom" the 2nd day of the draft. (Maybe Round 4 or 5?)

I think B. Johnson could be used as a MUCH better sounding board for Romo than Harrington, and in fact, Johnson may end up being another "coach" on the sidelines for Romo.
 

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Woods;1393595 said:
I'd prefer to go for Huard or Brad Johnson or Rattay over Harrington.

My first preference would be for Brad Johnson and then to draft a young QB "to groom" the 2nd day of the draft. (Maybe Round 4 or 5?)

I think B. Johnson could be used as a MUCH better sounding board for Romo than Harrington, and in fact, Johnson may end up being another "coach" on the sidelines for Romo.

That's the most important part of the backup search, at least for me. Joey's advice for Romo in the two-minute drill would be something like "miss your first two reads, then roll right, lob a duck along the sideline to Witten, that's sure to get picked off." Those older guys can actually provide value as a sounding board, maybe see something out there Romo's missing. Certainly preferable.
 

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Here's an interesting test:

Many people bash Joey Harrington while clamoring for David Carr.

Check out both players' career numbers at NFL.com.

You may rethink your prior stance.

One guy would command millions in a contract while the other could be had for cheap.....
 

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I see a lot of different names from Brad Johnson to Huard. I see Harrington as just another option that could be available to the Cowboys for a backup QB. Each of these guys have certain issues within their game or they would be starting QB instead of backup players. Harrington does have a selling point in that he has worked with Garrett and may have a better understanding of what Garrett wants.
 

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superpunk;1393593 said:
Ryan Leaf got paid to play QB for years, too. You can take my hyperbole literally if it makes you happy, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.

On a message board, email, etc. you pretty much have to go by what is typed, .. it isn't always easy to discern or obvious to recognize "hyperbole", sarcasm, irony, satire or a caustic remark.

Sorry if I misinterpreted "he is not a QB in any sense of the word."
 

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stasheroo;1393608 said:
Here's an interesting test:

Many people bash Joey Harrington while clamoring for David Carr.

Check out both players' career numbers at NFL.com.

You may rethink your prior stance.

One guy would command millions in a contract while the other could be had for cheap.....

Either one might do better in a better environment.

But maybe not.
 

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stasheroo;1393608 said:
Here's an interesting test:

Many people bash Joey Harrington while clamoring for David Carr.

Check out both players' career numbers at NFL.com.

You may rethink your prior stance.

One guy would command millions in a contract while the other could be had for cheap.....

Doesn't make either one of them a good QB. You gain nothing in the debate by comparing one bad QB to another bad QB.

I don't know that a lot of people are clamoring for Carr. If they are they are missing the boat. The guy is just not a good QB.
 
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