Jonathan Cooper Review

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I guess Cooper didn't show them enough to keep him past the injury or he's a lost cause health-wise. They probably would have cut Green by now.
Green is on a rookie contract with years remaining. Cooper was on the final year of his contract.
 

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1. Cooper had three teams give up on him.

2. Is this gonna be another Jeremy Parnell love affair for you?

This is so much further from the truth thats its disgusting.

AZ drafted him in 2013 and broke his fibula in his 3rd game
2014 he was rushed back in TC and developed turf toe. came back and started 2 games
2015 was still battling the lingering Fibula break and injured his knee on that same leg.
2016 they were going to move him to C, but NE traded Chandler Jones for Cooper and a 2nd rounder.
2016 suffered another foot injury and was released.
2016 Browns picked him up not fully healthy to buy time until Alvin Bailey was activated from suspension.

Dallas picked him up.

Injuries and the first 2 teams not allowing him to heal properly have forced further injuries. The Browns just signed him becasuse they needed somebody to fill in until their starter came back.
 

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Yep, he's a scrub, won't ever be good, nobody can ever recover from anything ever in life.

Hey guys, when can we get @AbeBeta a job in the front office? He's better than Will McClay.


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This is so much further from the truth thats its disgusting.

AZ drafted him in 2013 and broke his fibula in his 3rd game
2014 he was rushed back in TC and developed turf toe. came back and started 2 games
2015 was still battling the lingering Fibula break and injured his knee on that same leg.
2016 they were going to move him to C, but NE traded Chandler Jones for Cooper and a 2nd rounder.
2016 suffered another foot injury and was released.
2016 Browns picked him up not fully healthy to buy time until Alvin Bailey was activated from suspension.

Dallas picked him up.

Injuries and the first 2 teams not allowing him to heal properly have forced further injuries. The Browns just signed him becasuse they needed somebody to fill in until their starter came back.

Not allowing him to heal properly? Wow, you'd think if those teams saw anything they'd still have him. You don't see folks giving up on top 10 picks this quickly very often. Those that are given up on rarely rise from the flames
 

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I was right about Parnell.

He played better than Free and got paid more than Free as a result.

That's age and nothing else. Free led this line and was a huge part of the development of the guys on the line.

But please continue to think you are smarter than our entire coaching staff.
 

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Seems none of the teans he played for never allowed him to get fully healthy. As all his injuries had something to so with his knee down to his foot. Broaddus talked about him always at VR workout out and working with the trainers and said he body looks a whole lot better from when he got to dallas.
One of the things I never understood was any team not letting him get completely healthy.
 

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Not allowing him to heal properly? Wow, you'd think if those teams saw anything they'd still have him. You don't see folks giving up on top 10 picks this quickly very often. Those that are given up on rarely rise from the flames

Low risk, high reward on Dallas part. Since L. Collins is most likely RT now, Dallas must have an idea
that Cooper is well worth the risk.
 

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I was right about Parnell.

He played better than Free and got paid more than Free as a result.
Wouldn't be patting myself on the back too hard X.

Parnell was hitting the market at 28 and was two years younger. Of course he was going to get paid more. But if we compare their 2nd contracts, Free's contract was bigger. And Parnell's been a disappointment with the Jags.
 

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That's age and nothing else. Free led this line and was a huge part of the development of the guys on the line.

But please continue to think you are smarter than our entire coaching staff.

The architect of this OLine (Bill Callahan) preferred Parnell over Free. Garrett was the one that insisted on keeping Free as the starter.

Bill Callahan knows more about OLine play than Garrett. Nobody in their right mind would dispute that.
 

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Not allowing him to heal properly? Wow, you'd think if those teams saw anything they'd still have him. You don't see folks giving up on top 10 picks this quickly very often. Those that are given up on rarely rise from the flames
Thats the thing they didnt get to see him. It went from broken leg to turf tow to knee. all within 2 yrs. last yr was barely his 4th yr. He's healthy now and the team likes him. Thats all we need to know. This team knows how to build a OL
 

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One of the things I never understood was any team not letting him get completely healthy.
A broken fibula is a big injury on the leg. Turf toe was one of the big reasons Deion retiring and a foot injury on a OL. Thats are all very signiicant. This has been talked about with Cooper since his 2nd season when he was traded from AZ. Can google for yourself. Its there.

Teams rush players back all the time, i dont see how this isnt understood by now.
 

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Wouldn't be patting myself on the back too hard X.

Parnell was hitting the market at 28 and was two years younger. Of course he was going to get paid more. But if we compare their 2nd contracts, Free's contract was bigger. And Parnell's been a disappointment with the Jags.
BS.

Free's big contract was 32M and Parnell's was 32M. Free was cut and then re-signed to a lower contract before the original contract was over.

I've watched the Jags games. Parnell has been their best OL but the unit as a whole has been a disaster.

Last season they signed Beacham to play LT. He had by far his worst year. Despite that, the Jets signed Beacham to an 8M per year contract this offseason which indicates they thought his struggles were due to the team/scheme not the player.
 

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Not allowing him to heal properly? Wow, you'd think if those teams saw anything they'd still have him. You don't see folks giving up on top 10 picks this quickly very often. Those that are given up on rarely rise from the flames

Sounds like some of the people here who want Jaylon Smith to fail as well.
 
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