Joseph Randle released

[Stash]

Also if you look at the 2013 draft and the fact the team needed a 3rd Down Back, Randle was good value for the 5th round. Not defending anything he has done, but if you look at the RBs taken in that draft it was smart of Dallas to wait and take him in the 5th. Le'Veon Bell is obviously a stud, but the majority of the backs taken in that draft were totally overdrafted:


NAMEPOSSCHOOLROUNDPK(OVR)TEAM
Giovani BernardRBNorth Carolina25(37)Cincinnati
Le'veon BellRBMichigan State216(48)Pittsburgh
Montee BallRBWisconsin226(58)Denver
Eddie LacyRBAlabama229(61)Green Bay
Christine MichaelRBTexas A&M230(62)Seattle
Knile DavisRBArkansas334(96)Kansas City
Johnathan FranklinRBUCLA428(125)Green Bay
Kyle JuszczykFBHarvard433(130)Baltimore
Marcus LattimoreRBSouth Carolina434(131)San Francisco
Stepfan TaylorRBStanford57(140)Arizona
Joseph RandleRBOklahoma State518(151)Dallas
Chris ThompsonRBFlorida State521(154)Washington
Zachary StacyRBVanderbilt527(160)St. Louis
Mike GillisleeRBFlorida531(164)Miami
Latavius MurrayRBUCF613(181)Oakland
Kenjon BarnerRBOregon614(182)Carolina
Andre EllingtonRBClemson619(187)Arizona
Mike JamesRBMiami (FL)621(189)Tampa Bay
Rex BurkheadRBNebraska622(190)Cincinnati
Spencer WareRBLSU626(194)Seattle
Braden WilsonFBKansas State636(204)Kansas City
Tommy BohanonFBWake Forest79(215)NY Jets
Jawan JamisonRBRutgers722(228)Washington
Kerwynn WilliamsRBUtah State724(230)Indianapolis
Michael CoxRBMassachusetts747(253)NY Giants

Sorry, but I think this list makes things look worse, not better.

Especially being reminded that we have Gavin freakin' Escobar when we could have Le'veon Bell!

 

[Sasquatch]

Any new info on Randle's problems?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Any new info on Randle's problems?

Other than he is a somewhat talented kid who was spoiled during his life because of that talent. A kid who is not mature enough to handle the responsibility of being an NFL starter. A kid who talked trash about Dez when Randle got caught doing something stupid. A kid who pointed this out to the level Garrett had to address this behavior with the team.

A young man who doesn't do what it takes to be a professional ball player. A kid who doesn't have the self discipline to do the mind work and the body work to be a pro.

Thing is, outside of the physical gifts, and attitude of being great, Dez has some of these qualities.

Sports offers young men a position in life that is unreal when they can make childish mistakes and they are covered up by people who want to exploit their talent and ignore the kid doesn't learn anything but he can get over time and again since he has skills.

Irvin had some of this, as well.

Then there are guys like Witten, and Romo, or Aikman, or Smith who understand talent doesn't give you a free pass to be stupid.

Randle's problem is he has no character. No self discipline. He wants to be gifted his accolades and not earn them.

But even Irvin worked for everything he got. Unlike Randle.

So the problem is the grey cells between the ears of Randle. They be broken,,,dig?

 

[Daillest88]

A kid who knows he's doing wrong and when he dives over the top and his response to the coaches is "6 points" then yeah this was a good move.

 

[starfrombirth]

No he just pulled a gun on his baby momma while said baby was present.

Did he? Isn't that the night that he was so guilty that the cops didn't even arrest him? I admit i could be misremembering.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

One to step up or all of them get a share directed towards their strengths. You can spend this all you want but the ground game has been effective this year and that is all you need from your RBs. If you want a great back then draft one in the top part of the draft and hope to get lucky or take one later and hope to get luckier. Or pick up a vet like McFadden who is toting the ball just fine.

What do you want?

Im not spinning anything.

Fact: Dallas had a 12-4 record with a strong team that could compete with the best in the league.
Fact: That team was lead by a dominant rushing attack with Demarco Murray winning the leagues rushing record and cementing himself as a locker room leader , and on-field leader much in the mold of a Jason Witten.

It was determined or left up to chance, that Joe Randle and DMC would be able to replace that........

Go ahead and give me Joe Randles YPC in 2014 to support the argument.......

They have failed at this RBBC. The rushing attack has not been effective. Go ahead, give me the numbers..... Phillip Rivers has passed for over 300 yards in 4 straight games and I think they have lost every one. Stats are just that, stats. I like looking at them too. But it shouldnt trump, what you see with your own eyes, and what the W-L record clearly indicates.

Romo/Dez are hurt. That is a legit excuse. Albeit another excuse, in a long, long line of excuses, but that is where the money is. Those two are very talented.


But I would submit. And this is just my observation. I cant "prove" any of it. The one game sample against the Giants isnt a large enough sample. But I would say, thats what we get, even with Romo/Dez. We get that team that had to have a miracle to pull out a W. Much like those 8-8 teams in years past. They look very very similiar to those teams.

They look nothing like the 2014 team. And not repalcing Murray or signing Murray has directly contributed to the outcome of this season. Even with Romo/Dez , were not as good as the 2014 team. With a harder schedule, injuries, bad decisions at backup QB, etc etc................ thats makes you 6-10.7-9. maybe 8-8. Instead of 10-6, 11-5.....

just my 2 cents. That and a nickel might get you a bad cup of coffee.,....

 

[JoeBoBBY]

No i'm talking about where he missed his block(as he's done before) and Romo got broken.

ohhhh, well, i guess ball players miss assginments. Even good ones.

EVERY SINGLE FREAKIGN WEEK!!

 

[jobberone]

Im not spinning anything.

Fact: Dallas had a 12-4 record with a strong team that could compete with the best in the league.
Fact: That team was lead by a dominant rushing attack with Demarco Murray winning the leagues rushing record and cementing himself as a locker room leader , and on-field leader much in the mold of a Jason Witten.

It was determined or left up to chance, that Joe Randle and DMC would be able to replace that........

Go ahead and give me Joe Randles YPC in 2014 to support the argument.......

They have failed at this RBBC. The rushing attack has not been effective. Go ahead, give me the numbers..... Phillip Rivers has passed for over 300 yards in 4 straight games and I think they have lost every one. Stats are just that, stats. I like looking at them too. But it shouldnt trump, what you see with your own eyes, and what the W-L record clearly indicates.

Romo/Dez are hurt. That is a legit excuse. Albeit another excuse, in a long, long line of excuses, but that is where the money is. Those two are very talented.


But I would submit. And this is just my observation. I cant "prove" any of it. The one game sample against the Giants isnt a large enough sample. But I would say, thats what we get, even with Romo/Dez. We get that team that had to have a miracle to pull out a W. Much like those 8-8 teams in years past. They look very very similiar to those teams.

They look nothing like the 2014 team. And not repalcing Murray or signing Murray has directly contributed to the outcome of this season. Even with Romo/Dez , were not as good as the 2014 team. With a harder schedule, injuries, bad decisions at backup QB, etc etc................ thats makes you 6-10.7-9. maybe 8-8. Instead of 10-6, 11-5.....

just my 2 cents. That and a nickel might get you a bad cup of coffee.,....

Your supposition is erroneous. You think our running attack is not effective and our A/YC is the same. We don't have the power as much but we have more big play explosiveness.

You win in the NFL with passing. Your pass offense and pass defense beats theirs. It's not the running game that wins although as I've always argued you must have an effective running game. We do.

You won't run as well if you can't pass well and vice versa.

We need better QB play and that will open the playbook and our offense will be more effective with a better SC% and RZ success. Our running game will be even better. So will TOP and FP. Put it all together and you get more PPG and wins.

 

[dallasdave]

I remember Murray talking to Garrett on the phone in the secret audio and telling Garrett he was going to do everything he could to lead the Cowboys to the National Championship.

 

[dallasdave]

Would you feel better if I told you I've already lit a candle for Randle?

 

[goons]

The only reason this may be a good move is due to reasons we don't know and may never know. Yes, he is a knucklehead, but we have bigger knuckleheads. No, he isn't supremely talented, but teams have been stacking the box because we don't have a downfield passing threat (that doesn't have an equal chance of winding up being caught by the other team). He's neither great nor terrible, but cutting him does not have to do with his play. He's either the best or second best option at RB. Pacman Jones, Hardy, Josh Brent, etc. etc. the Cowboys have had these troubled types for years. Thomas Henderson. Duane freaking Thomas!! It's something else.

 

[xwalker]

Im not spinning anything.

Fact: Dallas had a 12-4 record with a strong team that could compete with the best in the league.
Fact: That team was lead by a dominant rushing attack with Demarco Murray winning the leagues rushing record and cementing himself as a locker room leader , and on-field leader much in the mold of a Jason Witten.

It was determined or left up to chance, that Joe Randle and DMC would be able to replace that........

Go ahead and give me Joe Randles YPC in 2014 to support the argument.......

They have failed at this RBBC. The rushing attack has not been effective. Go ahead, give me the numbers..... Phillip Rivers has passed for over 300 yards in 4 straight games and I think they have lost every one. Stats are just that, stats. I like looking at them too. But it shouldnt trump, what you see with your own eyes, and what the W-L record clearly indicates.

Romo/Dez are hurt. That is a legit excuse. Albeit another excuse, in a long, long line of excuses, but that is where the money is. Those two are very talented.


But I would submit. And this is just my observation. I cant "prove" any of it. The one game sample against the Giants isnt a large enough sample. But I would say, thats what we get, even with Romo/Dez. We get that team that had to have a miracle to pull out a W. Much like those 8-8 teams in years past. They look very very similiar to those teams.

They look nothing like the 2014 team. And not repalcing Murray or signing Murray has directly contributed to the outcome of this season. Even with Romo/Dez , were not as good as the 2014 team. With a harder schedule, injuries, bad decisions at backup QB, etc etc................ thats makes you 6-10.7-9. maybe 8-8. Instead of 10-6, 11-5.....

just my 2 cents. That and a nickel might get you a bad cup of coffee.,....

Can we just give up the Murray nonsense and at least change the debate to whether or not they should have signed Chris Johnson who is doing well in AZ at 870K for 2015.

 

[Kaiser]

After seeing they replaced Randle with Trey Williams, a Dunbar type, I have to think there were position issues involved and not just personality stuff. If Randle isn't starting he is essentially a 3rd down back but DMC is a better pass blocker on 3rd down and they are fine running a tandem of DMC and Michael rather than having backs play on specific downs.

So the math is probably that Williams running the plays designed for Dunbar plus the return ability gives the team more than Randle as a pure 3rd down back, especially when he doesn't listen to coaches and brings additional baggage.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

peace....
broke the code of brothers last year when arrested...
should have been released then.... failed again and again after being handed the starting role...

laterz......

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

btw.... the running backs we have on the roster, included dmc (injury prone), are not up to par...
the whole philosophy that got us where we were last year.... down the drain....

 

[Stryker44]

Other than he is a somewhat talented kid who was spoiled during his life because of that talent. A kid who is not mature enough to handle the responsibility of being an NFL starter. A kid who talked trash about Dez when Randle got caught doing something stupid. A kid who pointed this out to the level Garrett had to address this behavior with the team.

A young man who doesn't do what it takes to be a professional ball player. A kid who doesn't have the self discipline to do the mind work and the body work to be a pro.

Thing is, outside of the physical gifts, and attitude of being great, Dez has some of these qualities.

Sports offers young men a position in life that is unreal when they can make childish mistakes and they are covered up by people who want to exploit their talent and ignore the kid doesn't learn anything but he can get over time and again since he has skills.

Irvin had some of this, as well.

Then there are guys like Witten, and Romo, or Aikman, or Smith who understand talent doesn't give you a free pass to be stupid.

Randle's problem is he has no character. No self discipline. He wants to be gifted his accolades and not earn them.

But even Irvin worked for everything he got. Unlike Randle.

So the problem is the grey cells between the ears of Randle. They be broken,,,dig?

Is it fair that Dez Bryant is kept on the Dallas Cowboys, and Joseph Randle is not?

 

[erod]

Can we just give up the Murray nonsense and at least change the debate to whether or not they should have signed Chris Johnson who is doing well in AZ at 870K for 2015.

How well would Johnson be doing if you subtracted Carson Palmar and Larry Fitzgerald the past several weeks?

I don't blame Dallas for being leary of an aging running back with a bullet in his shoulder that nobody else wanted.

 

[erod]

So the problem is the grey cells between the ears of Randle. They be broken,,,dig?

Randle got a 31 on his Wonderlic. That is outstanding, even among quarterbacks.

Yet, he's such a stupid football player, and he makes horrendous decisions off the field.

This dude needs help.

 

[xwalker]

How well would Johnson be doing if you subtracted Carson Palmar and Larry Fitzgerald the past several weeks?

I don't blame Dallas for being leary leery of an aging running back with a bullet in his shoulder that nobody else wanted.

I definitely don't blame them for not signing CJ; however, it's a better discussion than people whining about Murray.

 

[xwalker]

Randle got a 31 on his Wonderlic. That is outstanding, even among quarterbacks.

Yet, he's such a stupid football player, and he makes horrendous decisions off the field.

This dude needs help.

Jay Ratliff probably had a decent score also.

Entitlement can affect people of levels of intellect.

I'm never certain about some of these scores because I don't know of a completely reliable source for them anymore.

It's still hard to imagine what Randle could be thinking in terms of his career. He fell to the 5th round in part because he was known to have "personality" issues in college.

I guess he is convinced that he is so great that teams will line up to sign him.