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  1. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Yes, keep ignoring the fact that Goodell has always considered time served as equivalent to a suspension. Care to put your money where your mouth is? I bet you $100 that Brent's suspension is half a season or less.
     
  2. Idgit

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    Honestly, I think this is one Jerry has taken on personally, though I'm not sure why. Somebody in the organization is behind the support, though. Or they all are. And I think it's not entirely about football, too.
     
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  3. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Great post.
     
  4. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing

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    Love your posts usually but a dirty weed test never killed anybody. Why are we acting like killing someone by your own destructive behavior is the equivalent of testing positive for erb or coke (effects no one outside of themselves unless arrested) That makes no sense and we are being willingly ignorant to excuse this certain circumstance (and we know it). Let him earn on another team...
     
  5. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Moderator

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  6. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    Dude, did you even read his post?
     
  7. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    DWI includes mj and coke. Accidents due to DWI are on the increase esp in states like CO and that's due to weed esp.
     
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  8. Tabascocat

    Tabascocat Dexternjack Zone Supporter

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    Is that speculation or fact? I haven't seen any studies on that yet and was wondering if weed(excluding alcohol) had any influence on that.
     
  9. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I have no idea what he'll do as this commish flies by the seat of his pants but to remain consistent he would have to suspend him for a year.

    You are suspended for your conviction not for your charge.

    I'll bet you one meeeelion dollars you wouldn't have this stance on Brent if he played for another team.
     
  10. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    You would owe me a million dollars. I don't believe the NFL should suspend anyone beyond using banned substances and on-field antics.
     
  11. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing

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    Yeah, everyone gets different punishments depending on? A neg. drug test gets this, a dwi (with special cirumstances) gets this?
     
  12. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing

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    Come on now, no one gets a DUI for MJ. It would be referenced in the police report if drug possession were involved (further charges).
     
  13. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Moderator

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    It's cool. If I had my way, Josh Brent would not be playing NFL football for at least two years. Possibly never again.

    The reality of the situation is not debatable. Unless challenged, the commissioner has the final say on discipline. It is as simple as that.

    Another reality is this. Real laws created to deter criminal activity are codified. For example, if you kill someone in a car accident, there are set legal consequences the accused must face. Depending on the state and circumstances of the case, the court may find the defendent guilty and enact probation or sentencing.

    Practically everyone may not know exactly what the legal ramifications are for killing someone while driving under the influence. What practically everyone does understand is that the law will hold them responsible if caught. Even so, people drive drunk anyway.

    Codified laws (not rules or policy, l-a-w-s) have a minimum effect on people thinking about doing something they should not do. That is a fact of life. If the NFL adopted a codified system of punishment, there is zero reason to believe it would prove any more effective in prompting players to think twice before doing something stupid either.

    I have no clue how effective the NFL's conduct policy influences its players. In truth, it may not do squat for every single player thinking of being an idiot (shout out to Josh Gordon!). Still, I hold out hope that the neverending discussion about the fairness of the conduct policy does weigh on the minds of a certain number of players. If that is the case, the anger of uncertainty about NFL punishments may prevent a future player from doing something stupid--like getting drunk and killing their teammate in a car crash.

    Reality number two: I'm some guy who goes by the handle of DallasEast. Just last year, Roger Goodell was paid $44 million dollars. What is a job duty which the owners and players association authorize Roger Goodell to do to earn that 8-figure income?

    Why, it's handing out punishments that no one has a freaking clue will be until handed down.

    I'm just keeping it real.

    It matters less than spit what anyone thinks about fairness. It does not matter what people think is moral and what is not. It does not even matter what the level of tragedy ends up being after a player does not call himself and his buddy a cab to get home after drinking.

    The only thing that matters, in real life, soon, for Josh Brent, is what Goodell decides. And guess what everybody? You may agree with what he decides. You may absolutely disagree with his decision. Whatever may be the case, it is totally out of everyone's hands.

    Find a silver lining in the insanity. Or rage against the situation no one has any control over. It's a personal choice. Me? Well, I'm a Goodell fan. Everybody here knows that (or should for as often as I mention or imply it). :p
     
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  14. jobberone

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    Those are facts based on DWI in CO and WA. I don't know how much is combined intoxicants. I do not know how they collected those facts though. My guess would be most of it is admitting to pot, observations by the officer and absence of alcohol on toxicology and/or positive for pot.
     
  15. Tabascocat

    Tabascocat Dexternjack Zone Supporter

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    ok, just confused on what is considered a DWI, always thought only alcohol and DUI's were pills, substances, etc along with booze but less of it.
     
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  16. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Moderator

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    Of course they do. If you are pulled for being erratic etc and can't pass a field sobriety test then you are arrested for DWI.
     
  17. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing

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    Loved your post, but def no Goddel fan. These circumstances seem so cherry picked it becomes ridiculous. We have players like Gordon (no fan, gang affiliated) who shouldn't promot the league, but a "average" 1 tech that could supplant Hayden? This is the depths this team has to dig into to find a starting 1 tech bc the drafting/FA prowess failed? Give it up JJ.
     
  18. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing

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    Okay;) How many players arrest for DWI for marijuana?
     
  19. silver

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    Speaks volumes about the front office's abilities to find and develop personnel.
     
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  20. starfrombirth

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    Actually no.. I didn't see that. What I saw was a Bishop getting double teamed every play and still holding his own while Coleman was constantly disrupting the pocket. More awareness is needed but they showed well overall. The runs all came to the outside and the passing lanes were open instantly. No pass rush no matter how good is going to get there in 2 seconds. I'd still rather roll with the rook's than give Brent another chance.
     
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