Jourdan Lewis - not guilty

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Jstopper

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No real men admit they were wrong - which I was in this case.

Real men don't sit back and assume the girl is always lying. Thats the attitude that leads to so few cases being ever prosecuted

That logic is stupid and twisted. You don't have to take either persons side when an ACCUSATION is first made. Let the facts come out and then you can see if the man or woman is lying.
 

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That logic is stupid and twisted. You don't have to take either persons side when an ACCUSATION is first made. Let the facts come out and then you can see if the man or woman is lying.

No actually knowing that most DV cases never get anywhere because the victim fears for her life or needs to maintain a relationship to survive is not illogical. It is entirely factual.

The world you believe exists where all women are just looking to extort money is the illogical one
 

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No actually knowing that most DV cases never get anywhere because the victim fears for her life or needs to maintain a relationship to survive is not illogical. It is entirely factual.

The world you believe exists where all women are just looking to extort money is the illogical one

Do you not know how to read or do you just make up stuff for the hell of it? Where in any of my posts did I say or even suggest that all women are looking to extort money? I said let the facts come out whenever an accusation is made. THE FACTS. Because they will tell if there was real DV or not. Put your white knight cape away dude.
 

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Do you not know how to read or do you just make up stuff for the hell of it? Where in any of my posts did I say or even suggest that all women are looking to extort money? I said let the facts come out whenever an accusation is made. THE FACTS. Because they will tell if there was real DV or not. Put your white knight cape away dude.

Please explain then your motivation for the basic "women lie" angle.

I'm sure you've got a great one waiting.

BTW. My white Knight cape beats a white hood any day. Apologize in advance if you've spent poorly on wardrobe
 

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Great logic. She's got a serious long view. She must haveknown in 2015 that the case wouldn't go anywhere but would set the stage for a future complaint. Totally projected his future success.

Compare that to a story about a 20 year old who got physical with his girlfriend because he can't control his anger.

Gee, what's the higher probability here?




Guess his conference wasNT one of those 24 hour long ones where you dont have internet access.
Lol @AbeBeta has a history of caping for women anytime an accusation of DV is brought up. An accusation is a guilty verdict in his mind.

Here's the actual context.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/cowb...iolence-accusation.378421/page-2#post-7338487

Nice out of context cherry pick though
 
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That logic is stupid and twisted. You don't have to take either persons side when an ACCUSATION is first made. Let the facts come out and then you can see if the man or woman is lying.

You're wasting your time. That sickness infests our entire society.

Hey, I have an idea. New rule. Any and all accusations of DV that are proven false, not just not proven true but proven without a doubt to be a lie, leads to the poor, innocent, special person female serving a lengthy prison sentence. Like the man would if he was guilty.

Bathe in that equality.

Now what sane, rational person could possibly disagree with that? Consequences for your actions. Even for, gasp, women.
 

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would not be so sure; look how far Brady got. And can you imagine the nfl penalizing a player for a pillow fight- which is what Lewis and his lawyers probably would emphasize. And as I said previously Lewis could scream about his civil rights being violated- the CBA cannot protect the NFL from that.

What Civil Right would be violated? He can certainly file a suit and see if he could force a settlement, but the legal basis for such a claim should it, go to trial, would be thin, unless there is a violation of his rights under the contract or some other violation of labor law, which the Court of Appeals ultimately decided didn't happen in the Brady case. There may be state laws banning the use of criminal records in employment decisions without the opportunity for a hearing, but its Texas we are talking about (not sure if NY law would apply as the NFL is based there) and that would probably be addressed in the contract anyway.
 

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BTW. My white Knight cape beats a white hood any day. Apologize in advance if you've spent poorly on wardrobe
Its funny that you go the KKK angle for the DV doubters when most of the cases in the NFL have been black guys being charged........do you really think a bunch of White Power guys are going to publicly defend a bunch of black guys

OR is your real man vs little boys argument so juvenile and misguided that you will go to any lengths to try to tar your opponents instead of attacking their argument
 

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No actually knowing that most DV cases never get anywhere because the victim fears for her life or needs to maintain a relationship to survive is not illogical. It is entirely factual.

The world you believe exists where all women are just looking to extort money is the illogical one

If no kids are involved, then it should be easier for police.

No single woman in America has to stay in a bad situation unless she disabled. Single people can live on wages from Walmart or McDonalds or being a maid or any number of jobs that have near zero barriers to entry.

If the police show up and it's a single woman that is not leaving for the night, then she's probably not in a dire situation.

Some common sense by police would go a long way, but the system is setup such that it's easier with less ramifications for the police to arrest the man and let the courts sort it out.

I really don't know how they get by with arresting a guy like Lewis that was not there when the police arrived and the woman was not significantly (if at all) injured.

The possibilities for blackmail are endless for Pro Athletes and Celebrities. Many have likely paid up and we never even heard about those cases.

In many divorces the woman claims the man abused the kid and he's done. She then gets custody, the house, etc..

Meanwhile the woman with 5 kids in a bad situation is probably still there. Being arrested can ruin a normal guy's life but the real bad guys do get back out of jail and continue abusing. They often don't have a career to be ruined so an arrest has minimal affect on them.
 

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In many divorces the woman claims the man abused the kid and he's done. She then gets custody, the house, etc..

That happened to a friend of mine, his wife knew the legal system very well. He found out she was cheating and called her on it (over the phone). She didn't come home that night and the next morning filed reports that he had sexually abused their kids (and she had somehow missed it for years) and he lost his kids.

Everyone on this board likely knows a woman who has been abused and a man who has been falsely accused. This AbeBeta schtick of calling everyone knuckledraggers in every single thread is pathetic.
 
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