Keep reading we don’t need Zeke

[Bob-Lillys-War]

24? Geeezz. I think 16 is more accurate

yep, or even 13 million .

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You make a valid point.

But the stats—even with Amari- still say that Z isvthe thing that makes it go.

I like Dak, but he is the least talented of any of our long tenured QBs in our history. Morton, Meredith, Staubach, White, Aikman, Romo.....he’s not better than any of them. He’s good......but there are 10 guys in the league right now who are better.....some would say 15.


No one can put Z out of the top 5.

Stats say 1 to 3.

Way to compare 3 years of Dak to QBs that have completed their career.....

Dak in his first 3 years was absolutely better than those QBs especially Aikman. RBs don't last long in this league so being top 3 runner isn't compared to top 10 QB especially when a few of those QBs are almost 40 and 1 is over 40.

 

[Bullflop]

Lol...sounds like the ole...any one of 500 coaches can win with this team.

That was one of Jerry's delusional prognostications of the past that have been thoroughly disproved by former staffs. An impulsive Jerry has had many things to say before that defy thoughtful logic. Obviously, that hasn't changed much. Saying we don't need Zeke is like saying plants don't need rain. I'm confident that Zeke will be back, hopefully in time to get better prepared for the offensive tweaks that Kellen Moore has in mind.

 

[Bullflop]

Way to compare 3 years of Dak to QBs that have completed their career.....

Dak in his first 3 years was absolutely better than those QBs especially Aikman. RBs don't last long in this league so being top 3 runner isn't compared to top 10 QB especially when a few of those QBs are almost 40 and 1 is over 40.

Especially Aikman? I'm sure you recall that Troy wasn't blessed with the support that Dak had in his initial 3 years with Dallas. All those pitiful holdovers that he had upon Landry's departure weren't exactly top notch. That's a comparison that's far from bullet proof. Everyone knows that Troy had a highly successful recovery from his early woes. Pretty sure you do, too! Dak has yet to approach the glory days that Troy enjoyed, right?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Especially Aikman? I'm sure you recall that Troy wasn't blessed with the support that Dak had in his initial 3 years with Dallas. All those pitiful holdovers that he had upon Landry's departure weren't exactly top notch. That's a comparison that's far from bullet proof. We all know that Troy had a highly successful recovery from his early woes. Pretty sure you do, too! Dak has yet to approach the glory days that Troy enjoyed, right?

Can you imagine Dak on that 1989 team?

 

[Bullflop]

Can you imagine Dak on that 1989 team?

I hate to think of what would have happened to him in such a situation.

Even Jesus might have had trouble to overcome that terrible scenario!

 

[Bullflop]

I'm hoping Jerry will get over his early rage over Zeke's holdout.

Who knows? Zeke might even be willing to sign reasonably.

 

[DandyDon52]

Yeah and Murray playing without Romo wouldn’t have helped. Murray isnt even in the league anymore. Good thing they didn’t give him a huge 5 year deal.

So many fans were *****ing and complaining about letting Murray go to eagles but never admitted how wrong they were.

That is because we were not wrong!!
you probably wont understand this but if they had signed Murray Tony would not have got hurt in that philly game.
They would have made playoffs again in 2015.

 

[DandyDon52]

We don't need Zeke? Who else you gonna load up 450 to 500 touches? You can't treated him like a rented mule...then say you don't need him! Has Jerry Jones been paying attention? You are not New England Jerry! This is Jason Garrett. And he would much rather run Zeke with Jumbo packages into 9 man fronts...than design a play that takes innovation, practice and execution. Zeke and his people are not stupid.

Jerry...YOU have kept this old school coach around....and this is what the old school coach NEEDS! You don't need him? Show me the historical evidence? And please...spare me with what Alfred Morris averaged. Or how many yards Darren McFadden gained. NEITHER is half the player Zeke is. NEITHER wears down a defense. NEITHER allows you to control the game and protect your defense. This is how Garrett was successful...and without this...we will return to the pack.

Jerry...YOU decided this a long time ago...probably without you even realizing you were deciding this. All the other millionaires from the front office, to the coaching staff, to a lot of the players....all have made money on the back of this player. Problem is...Zeke is not playing along anymore.

I don't know what you offered him...but I do know he should be the highest paid RB in the NFL. When I think of the Sam Bradfords and Mike Glennons of the world. And all of the MILLIONS they have made...with a clean uniform. Heck even Jason Garrett. And how calm, relaxed, spry they look...and all I picture is Zeke with a walker looking like Earl Campbell. It's NOT right. And if your GOAL is the Super Bowl...Zeke has to be the primary focus of the offense. Dak is a slightly above average QB. Amari is a very good WR..but is he the best player at his position in the NFL....is Amari even a top 5 WR? But I get it...your head coach tried WR by committee...and it was obvious that the head coach offense could not function without an elite talent. And for a team that needs Zeke to dominate....you gonna try RB by committee?

Jerry has done a good job of providing this team with talent. So I get why he thinks we SHOULD be able to do some things....even without Zeke. But this team sucked without Romo. This team sucked without a true #1 WR. And this team will suck without a TRUE workhorse RB. But this is the PRICE you pay for keeping Garrett around!

I agree with some of what you say, but you overate elliot.
They were 3-5 with elliot last year before Amari got here and passing game picked up.
Elliot is good, not as good as he was in 2016 though, and he does not and cannot carry the team.
S. Jones has now said he thinks the offer they made elliot is fair, and he isnt going to give him market value.
The thing is we and you dont know what the jones boys offered E , but also we dont know what elliot is asking for, if you
did you might be saying hey that is too high.

 

[birdwells1]

Yeah and Murray playing without Romo wouldn’t have helped. Murray isnt even in the league anymore. Good thing they didn’t give him a huge 5 year deal.

So many fans were *****ing and complaining about letting Murray go to eagles but never admitted how wrong they were.

We used the 4th overall draft pick to replace him, that's what it cost.

 

[birdwells1]

Eagles went to the Superbowl, with a bunch of trades, leftover running backs

They had great quarterback play and defense. We get good quarterback play and good defense.

 

[birdwells1]

It wasn't their best chance to win. At all.

Not even a little bit.



In fact, outside of Gathers Thompson, andRod Smith, he helped win the least.

Not all his fault his rushing inherently helps you win games at a much lower rate than passing.

Well then what's with all the fuss, just let him sit.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

That is because we were not wrong!!
you probably wont understand this but if they had signed Murray Tony would not have got hurt in that philly game.
They would have made playoffs again in 2015.

That running game was not working that well in the Philly Game and so Romo was being Romo again when he got hurt. After that nobody cared about the running game because the QBs were so bad.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Well then what's with all the fuss, just let him sit.

Yep. If we don't need him then why worry about him? We have a great coach, a great defense, a great QB and a great OL that anyone can run behind. We're set.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Especially Aikman? I'm sure you recall that Troy wasn't blessed with the support that Dak had in his initial 3 years with Dallas. All those pitiful holdovers that he had upon Landry's departure weren't exactly top notch. That's a comparison that's far from bullet proof. Everyone knows that Troy had a highly successful recovery from his early woes. Pretty sure you do, too! Dak has yet to approach the glory days that Troy enjoyed, right?

Dak had a team that was 4-12 and turned it into 13-3. All this talent y'all keep saying Dak had is foolish. Dez and Witten weren't in their prime anymore, Williams? Beasley? No defense?

As a QB Dak has outplayed Aikman in their first 3 years and it's not even close. We know how Aikmans career went but to compare his entire career to Dak who has only 3 years is foolish. Spin it and run around all you want but Aikman was awful his first few seasons.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Can you imagine Dak on that 1989 team?

He would have won more than 1 game

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He would have won more than 1 game

No he wouldn't have. That team was so bad they were lucky to have won one game. Thanks Deadskins.

 

[Bullflop]

Dak had a team that was 4-12 and turned it into 13-3. All this talent y'all keep saying Dak had is foolish. Dez and Witten weren't in their prime anymore, Williams? Beasley? No defense?

As a QB Dak has outplayed Aikman in their first 3 years and it's not even close. We know how Aikmans career went but to compare his entire career to Dak who has only 3 years is foolish. Spin it and run around all you want but Aikman was awful his first few seasons.

Dak had Dez in his prime, Witten was as good as need be and that OL that was widely recognized as the best in the league. Aikman had a roster that was depleted to the point of being next to worthless when he first took over. The entire Dallas team was hot garbage in Aikman's first year. Huge difference there. Were you even aware of that team in '89? It was horrible. There's every reason in the world why they only won one game when Aikman was a rookie. A good college team would have beaten them -- everyone said so back then.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Dak had Dez in his prime, Witten was as good as need be and that OL that was widely recognized as the best in the league. Aikman had a roster that was depleted to the point of being next to worthless when he first took over. The entire Dallas team was hot garbage in Aikman's first year. Huge difference there. Were you even aware of that team in '89? It was horrible. There's every reason why they only won one game when Aikman was a rookie.

That was the year I wore a bag over my head watching Cowboy games on TV. lol I was mocked by everybody when I bought Cowboy stuff at the malls. I remember that team. Hot garbage is being too kind.

 

[Bullflop]

He would have won more than 1 game

I doubt he would've survived past the 1st quarter of game one, much less a full season. Their OL was that bad back then. Ditto, the defense.