Keyshan Johnson:Vince Young similar to Romo but lacks the Wide Receivers

[BHendri5]

VY is a horrible QB, and until he gets better, if he can, any WRs you give him he will make them look horrible.

He is not accurate at all, and I am sick and tired of people saying that his receivers are no good.

Jones, Williams are some good promising young receivers, and Moulds is a good Vet.

Scaife and Ben Troupe are decent TEs. Check this out when VY was hurt and missed the Houston game it was reported that Scaife his favorite Receiver had 10 receptions for only 100 yards and they were about to play the 7th game of the season.

Now any QB, that is any good would have connected with his favorite receiver more than 10 times for more than 100 yards in six games.
On top of that you have sorry Kerry Collins come in and run the offense better than VY, Williams had double digits receptions for over 100yds and Jones had catches for a good amount of yards as well.

It reminded me of the Vick and Schaub when Vick would be hurt, Schaub would come in and run the offense and the receiver would have a field day.

 

[BHendri5]

Same people slamming Vince Young sure sound a lot like the same ones that slammed Campbell last week.

And like I said, I haven't seen a lot of Tennessee games but just from this one alone I've seen A LOT of really bad drops by Titan receivers...Just crazy...Some very well thrown balls.

If there was no Romo, you'd all be on the Vince Young bandwagon if we had a shot at em

Not me, I live in Austin and I have seen VY, play every game at UT, I have never liked him as a QB, and I still don't.

I would never ever ever ever ever want him on my team as a QB.

 

[baj1dallas]

Their is a desirious effort on the part of the media to see a QB like Vince Young succeed.

Yea because he's a winner, a leader, and an all around great football player...and a much better thrower than people give him credit for.

 

[baj1dallas]

Intangibles? How about throwing more TDs (4) instead of INTs (10)?

He's terrible and will likely never improve. His QB rating has actually gone down over his rookie season. I didn't think it was possible to do worse than a 66.7 QB rating. Most people could just randomly throw the ball in the air and do better than that.

Pretty hard to put up great numbers when your receivers let balls bounce off their face. You honestly think randomly throwing the ball up is gonna do better? There goes all your credibility...

 

[theogt]

Pretty hard to put up great numbers when your receivers let balls bounce off their face. You honestly think randomly throwing the ball up is gonna do better? There goes all your credibility...

You want me to accept your opinion after post this:

Yea because he's a winner, a leader, and an all around great football player...and a much better thrower than people give him credit for.

Not likely. You're just another VY apologist. "He may suck as a QB, but, by God, he's a leader!!!"

LOL.

 

[Grevus]

Just said on MNF Countdown that Vince Young is similar to Romo in that he has mobility but doesn't have the veteran Wide Receivers that Romo has.

I am a big Vince Young fan, but Romo is a much better player than Young and their game is not comparable.

Keyshan Johnson is a jacka$$. I don't think I've agreed with him on anything this year.

 

[dbair1967]

You have to admit, Young doesn't have many weapons, though. He's throwing it pretty well tonight.

I'd take him on my team, that's for sure.

I'd take him as a backup QB, but not as a starter...not right now

he is too limited in what he can do as a passer

David

 

[dbair1967]

Pretty hard to put up great numbers when your receivers let balls bounce off their face. You honestly think randomly throwing the ball up is gonna do better? There goes all your credibility...

I didnt watch the entire game last night, but I have seen him play a couple other times this yr, and he was dreadful...in those games he made poor throws and decisions, and the team won the games in spite of him not because of him

David

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Just said on MNF Countdown that Vince Young is similar to Romo in that he has mobility but doesn't have the veteran Wide Receivers that Romo has.

I am a big Vince Young fan, but Romo is a much better player than Young and their game is not comparable.

good call Key, looked just like him down the stretch.

 

[Randy White]

looks nothing like TR. They have completely different styles of play. TR moves around to set up his passing, but he will never kill you with the run the way VY could. On the other hand, VY will never kill you with his accuracy the way TR could.

In terms of styles, the closest player who resembles TR is none other than a guy who has outside tides with the Cowboys: J.P. Losman.

Losman is not as accurate as TR is ( I think that has to do with the poor, poor way the Bills developed him more than his ability ) but he has the same intangibles that TR has. He can move, he has a strong arm, and he can make just about any throw.

If the Bills do release him after this year, I wouldn't mind for the Cowboys to bring him in as a back up for TR just in case the worse case scenario happens. I think Brad Johnson is a nice back up, but the drop off, particularly in this offense ( TR's ability to scramble out of trouble is way, way, way understimated and understated ) would be huge.

:starspin

 

[joseephuss]

I do see similarities in Young and Romo. They show good leadership and poise and good pocket presence. I have seen Young keep his head up and try to throw when scrambling, but not as much as Romo.

There are differences in their games as well. The primary difference is experience. Romo has 3 years on Young. Getting to sit, watch and practice for 3 years helped Romo. The next difference is accuracy. I don't know if Young will develop the accuracy of Romo, but his accuracy may and needs to improve for him to get to a higher level of quarterbacking.

Everyone knew coming in that Vince Young needed time to develop his game. It has just been over 1 1/2 seasons, so I am not surprised that his game has not improved that dramatically. It takes time for guys to get it even if they played in pro style offenses in college. Young will probably take until his 4th season to finally start doing things needed and expected of top QBs if he does eventually get it.

 

[Fletch]

And the ability to throw the football...

:laugh1: So true. It's just fugly trying to watch Vince throw the football.

All around athlete, but not much of a passing threat at this point in his career.

 

[Fletch]

I do see similarities in Young and Romo. They show good leadership and poise and good pocket presence. I have seen Young keep his head up and try to throw when scrambling, but not as much as Romo.

There are differences in their games as well. The primary difference is experience. Romo has 3 years on Young. Getting to sit, watch and practice for 3 years helped Romo. The next difference is accuracy. I don't know if Young will develop the accuracy of Romo, but his accuracy may and needs to improve for him to get to a higher level of quarterbacking.

Everyone knew coming in that Vince Young needed time to develop his game. It has just been over 1 1/2 seasons, so I am not surprised that his game has not improved that dramatically. It takes time for guys to get it even if they played in pro style offenses in college. Young will probably take until his 4th season to finally start doing things needed and expected of top QBs if he does eventually get it.

Hmmm. That is exactly what they said about Eli. :laugh1:

 

[InmanRoshi]

I definitely think they share some leadership and charisma qualities, but Romo has always been an accurate passer. I thought that's always what stood out about him when I watched him in training camps. Even then he hit WR's in stride at a pretty remarkable rate, especially for someone who releases from 50 different angles.

Anyway, I'm not sure what Key's beef with Romo is, other than he's just the type of guy who inherently doesn't like people who gets a lot of favorable press. I do know he's good friends with Drew Henson.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Just said on MNF Countdown that Vince Young is similar to Romo in that he has mobility but doesn't have the veteran Wide Receivers that Romo has.

I am a big Vince Young fan, but Romo is a much better player than Young and their game is not comparable.

The height of Keyshawn's IQ can be counted on one hand.

 

[Doomsday101]

Just said on MNF Countdown that Vince Young is similar to Romo in that he has mobility but doesn't have the veteran Wide Receivers that Romo has.

I am a big Vince Young fan, but Romo is a much better player than Young and their game is not comparable.

I agree. Then again Key is way off on most of his opinions. I like Young but there are still big questions if he will ever develop into a top flight QB. Right now he has the ability to run and that is his main weapon and that will not cut it in the NFL. Romo on the other hand only moves around when need be and does so with the intent of hitting the big play instead of looking to run.

 

[baj1dallas]

You want me to accept your opinion after post this:

Not likely. You're just another VY apologist. "He may suck as a QB, but, by God, he's a leader!!!"

LOL.

name one player on that team who's better than he is.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

They are definetely similar....their arms both come forward when they pass the ball. Besides that, their movement and being in the pocket are COMPLETELY different.

 

[YosemiteSam]

VY played pretty well last night. He had his first 300 yard game. He threw 2 picks, one was just bad placement of the throw. The other one was forced under pressure in attempts to mount a comeback.

I was impressed with his play last night considering where his QB game is coming from. He (like Campbell) is a check down passer. Campbell probably has more upside as a complete QB though Vince Young is a big-time playmaker and Campbell is not.

Can Young become a good QB? (in a actually pocket passer since) Probably, but not a prolific QB. It's going to take time to mature, and he (like most QBs) need more talent around him. Moulds is the type of talent he needs, but Moulds isn't exactly a spring chicken anymore. Without real (non-carbon dated) talent, it's going to be hard to actually mature as a passer because he will always be compensating for poor play of his receivers while never actually finding his own stride as a QB.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Tony Romo and Vincent Young do not have similar playing styles. I think comparing the two is just a ridiculous statement.

Tony Romo is a Pocket Passer that has great ability to get outside the pocket and extend the play.

Vincent Young is a Running Quarterback that COULD develop the ability to be a good passer in the NFL.

One of the major differences between Vince Young and Tony Romo is the fact that Tony Romo is extremely dangerous when throwing on the run and Vince Young is well below average when throwing on the run.

Another difference is the way Defensive Coordinators gameplan against the two. DCs routinely try to keep Romo inside the pocket and take away those instinct plays that he makes when he rolls out of the pocket but they still fear his throwing ability.

On the other hand, DCs try to contain Vincent Young only because they fear the threat of him running, not making throws down field on the run because his accuracy is degraded quite a bit. They also have absolutely no respect for his throwing ability.

I agree with Ron Jaworski, I think Vincent Young has potential to be a really good player in this league. He just has to eat, sleep and **** the Tennessee Playbook and understand all of its nuances. He has to learn where his guys are going to be and what defensive coverages the opposing team is in. They should not tweak his throwing motion but he needs to work on his footwork and his throwing mechanics.