Kiffin has to be fired right now

[khiladi]

While I agree that is often a pattern with this team, you can't remotely say that about a game where the defense got rolled for 620 yards. It wasn't because they got tired at the end, they got abused the whole game because the genius coach decided to single cover the best WR in football.

Well yeah, and that too.. Though he handed the ball back to us twice...

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't understand how this defense continues to get worse and worse every year.

We don't play together as a until. At this point I feel like we have to hope our opponents stop themselves with penalities and turnovers.

 

[dupree89]

Lots of good guys with interesting comments in here. I just dont buy the the idea that "the def. coord. isnt the one that missed tackles, didnt cover receivers" and so on.
Batting coaches arent the ones at the plate that hit .229, but batting coaches get fired. Pitching coaches didnt give up bombs to drive a team ERA to 4.95, but they get canned. I'm not in favor of any mid-season firings but to use the excuse that the coaches arent on the field screwing up just doesnt fly IMO.

 

[dreghorn2]

After the early season high turnover start that had most everyone applauding Garretts decision to hire Kiffen (remember we were told here that Garrett was the first to contact him, not Jerry), the mood then began to change.

The complaints about Kiffen, and the historically poor defensive numbers that began to appear, then mysteriously seem to become centered on Jerry's 'brutal' decision to hire the aging past-his-prime coordinator.. funny stuff.

This past off season Jerry once again used half measures.

I can well imagine some of the staff meetings last year got very heated with Ryan complaining about an offense the set historic lows for first half incompetence, while he was being asked to keep his team in the game week after week with an injured unit that never had a lead.

Everyone complained about the lack of aggressiveness from Ryan last season but its tough to blitz when you always trail.

So I assume some things were said and tempers flared, Ryan was out, and we have to change an entire defense scheme.

Jerry of course sees that Ryan did sort of kind of have a point and strips
JG of his play calling ... and here we are today.

Jason Garrett is the John Gotti of coaches.

 

[kramskoi]

Don't think you can fire Kiffin and try to salvage this season.

Ryan must be loving this, though.

In New Orleans they want to run him for Mayor. I listen to WWL-870 every day and the accolades being heaped on Ryan is unreal. They can't shut up about him! What makes it even worse is that they opine that Ryan was made the scapegoat and that someone else actually should have been fired. I will let your imagination run who that someone else might be, red-hair and all!

 

[kramskoi]

Firing Kiffin probably ain't going to happen. Marinelli's coaching would make it look ridiculous and then what happens? I don't think Jerry Jones will defenestrate a defensive coordinator after just one year, where every position on the d-line save Jason Hatcher is a turn-style of journeymen. Another year [or two] with Kiffin, for better or worse is in the cards. Jones will give him a draft and a bit more rope.

 

[AbeBeta]

How on earth do you fire a guy who is playing without Ware, Ratliff, Spencer, Church, and Mo? This has just be a terrible season for that D - the line in particular

 

[LucaBrasi]

lets see: Zim was basically shown the door, then Wade other than 2009 couldnt get the defense up to snuff, then Rob Ryan sucked, now Kiffin should exit stage left after 8 games. I'm curious when the players or the self proclaimed football man putting the talent together deserves some of the blame?

 

[17yearsandcounting]

How on earth do you fire a guy who is playing without Ware, Ratliff, Spencer, Church, and Mo? This has just be a terrible season for that D - the line in particular

The same way you fired the last guy who had to deal with injuries. Simples.

 

[kramskoi]

How on earth do you fire a guy who is playing without Ware, Ratliff, Spencer, Church, and Mo? This has just be a terrible season for that D - the line in particular

I think that there is just not much depth in the secondary right now. Moreover, the guys back there are still learning. I just wondered how long it would be before an injury to a few DB's. They just have to play through it and move on. The bottom line is that this defense cannot be made to be the team's strength. It must come from the offense if this team plans to be playing in January. There has to be something that the team can go to each Sunday, a signature strength. I don't see what that is right now.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

How on earth do you fire a guy who is playing without Ware, Ratliff, Spencer, Church, and Mo? This has just be a terrible season for that D - the line in particular

We did it last year with Ryan. I guess that very same way.

 

[AbeBeta]

We did it last year with Ryan. I guess that very same way.

Yes but Ryan had more than a single year and also, Ryan does not have the skins on the wall that Kiffin does

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Yes but Ryan had more than a single year and also, Ryan does not have the skins on the wall that Kiffin does

Kiffin was basically fired by his own spawn at his last job. The skins on the wall are meaningless here. No one cares about 1999.

 

[Marktui]

This defense is dead last in the league (32nd) in yards allowed. Yesterday, the defense allowed the most yards in Cowboys history. Through half a season, the Cowboys have already tied the record with (4) 400+ yard passers. This is inexcusable. I know we have injuries on the D line, but we had injuries last year far worse yet Ryan was fired.

This is one of the worst defense I've seen in my life. Even the gameplans are horrid. We single cover Mega freakin Tron all game long when he was essentially the Lions only receiving threat. Look what the Lions did. They doubled Dez and Witten all game long. Fire Kiffin right now.

Who out there can do a better job than Kiffen and Marinelli?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yes but Ryan had more than a single year and also, Ryan does not have the skins on the wall that Kiffin does

I don't think that matters. I think that things happen in Dallas to appease. We are not big on long term strategy IMO. That's part of the identity issue that I believe we have. If we had a real plan and we actually stuck with it, we would always kinda know what type of coach we should be looking for, what type of player etc.

We wouldn't be changing HCs and Coordinators every few seasons. We wouldn't be drafting players like Felix Jones in the 1st round. Things like that would not happen because we would have more structure to our organization. This is just my observation but over the years, I don't see a lot of rhyme or reason to a lot of what we do.

 

[DallasCowboysRule!]

Kiffen is doing what in my opinion is the unpardonable sin of coaching: he is forcing his team to play a scheme that his personell doesn't fit. As a Michigan fan I got to see three years of it up in Michigan when Rich Rod was around so I know it when I see it. We are all down on Claiborne but I think he is just in the wrong scheme. The guy is a man coverage player and we have him playing zone. Even Revis is struggling in Tampa for the same reason.

I don't think we can fire Kiffen right now, though. We are still in first place so this is no time to blow up the season. Let's finish the season....

...then we fire him.

 

[Staubacher]

If we fire Kiffin do we take a cap hit on his Social Security check?

 

[Wheeltax]

I didn't like the Ryan firing, and I still don't. That's just me.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Kiffen is doing what in my opinion is the unpardonable sin of coaching: he is forcing his team to play a scheme that his personell doesn't fit. As a Michigan fan I got to see three years of it up in Michigan when Rich Rod was around so I know it when I see it. We are all down on Claiborne but I think he is just in the wrong scheme. The guy is a man coverage player and we have him playing zone. Even Revis is struggling in Tampa for the same reason.

I don't think we can fire Kiffen right now, though. We are still in first place so this is no time to blow up the season. Let's finish the season....

...then we fire him.

It is still happening this year with Borges and Gardener!!.


This is not cool. This was a BAD BAD BAD hire.

 

[FiveRings]

Lol when we stuck it to Washington we were praising him. We lost a road game against a pretty good team, by one point. If the offense clicked in the least yesterday, the defense wouldn't have been on the field to allow a career day for Megatron. Step off the ledge guys, were still in first, and the losses that we have been handed have been respectable.