Kurt Warner breaks us down

[America's Cowboy]

But is it? I don't deny there are probably some scheme issues.

But it wasn't scheme that caused some of those dreadful interceptions in the San Fran game. It wasn't all scheme that he looked totally inept against Washington. When he threw a pick 6 in the Eagles game (where he played mostly great), that wasn't scheme. It was a dumb pass. Scheme/talent didn't have him miss open WRs in the San Fran game.

The reality is that even with scheme and talent deficiencies, Dak just isn't consistent enough. He certainly wasn't this season. Can he get more consistent? I honestly don't know. He's a 7 year vet in this league, there is a good chance he is what he is.

But since he's here due to his contract, I am all for trying to just give him a fresh start with a new OC. I just am not sure that somehow changes the trajectory for him. I think he's forever stuck in the mud as a decent QB. Good enough to win some games, not good enough to actually take a team to a SB. But at this point if Jerry wants to salvage this, unless he has a trade in mind, his only other option is get a new offensive scheme in here for Dak.

Jerry should call in Kurt Warner. Ask him if he'd like to coach (QB coach or O-Coordinator) for the Cowboys. If Kurt refuses, ask him if he will take 6 weeks of his time to train Dak (and our receivers) both in the film room and on the field. Guarantee Dak and receivers would improve.

 

[Ken]

A lot of it is scheme...yes. Sorry but the 49ers weren't fooled at all by the curl and comeback offense.

Ya Dak threw a pick 6 vs Phill that Sweat made a great play on. Then went unconscious the rest of the game to destroy Philly.

Washington isn't all on dak..there were 6 drops. It snowballed.

 

[Sydla]

Dak had no weapons around him, no Oline, no running game half of the time, poor receiver route running with no separation, poor route running concepts and poor playcalling/schemes. Plus, he needs better QB coaching. Get everything improved and you will see Dak be much more consistent. Even Brian Baldinger and Kurt Warner said as much today.

As I suspected.

It's everyone's fault but Dak's. He's an elite QB being held back by the GM, the WRs, the coaches, his QB instruction, the RBs, the OL, etc.

PS - Some of this isn't even accurate. For example, the Cowboys OL actually rates pretty well statistically in pass blocking. They were 4th in sacks allowed. Football Outsiders has them rated as a Top 7 pass blocking OL. So blaming the OL for Dak's passing issues is a reach.

 

[Sydla]

A lot of it is scheme...yes. Sorry but the 49ers weren't fooled at all by the curl and comeback offense.

Ya Dak threw a pick 6 vs Phill that Sweat made a great play on. Then went unconscious the rest of the game to destroy Philly.

Washington isn't all on dak..there were 6 drops. It snowballed.

So we are back to blaming most everyone else but Dak. Got it. No one said Washington was all on Dak. The team largely played crappy. But Dak was right there with the rest of them as he was putrid himself.

Great, we run a lot of curls. That doesn't mean Dak should just throw into double coverage because that's the "scheme". Understand the concept of a compounding problem. Maybe the play call was wrong but Dak compounds it by making poor throws.

 

[Zman5]

#30th ranked Defense baby!

Fake news. They weren't ranked 30th. Not even close.

2022 NFL Team Defense Statistics​

The following are the 2022 NFL team overall defense statistics, including team rushing yardage, team passing yardage and total team yardage. Figures indicate statistics each team allowed to their opponents.

Team	Gms	Tot Pts	Pts/G	RushYds	RYds/G	PassYds	PYds/G	TotYds	Yds/G
San Francisco 49ers	17	277	16.3	1321	77.7	3789	222.9	5110	300.6
Philadelphia Eagles	17	344	20.2	2068	121.6	3057	179.8	5125	301.5
Washington Commanders	17	343	20.2	1926	113.3	3252	191.3	5178	304.6
New York Jets	17	316	18.6	2068	121.6	3220	189.4	5288	311.1
New Orleans Saints	17	345	20.3	2218	130.5	3134	184.4	5352	314.8
Buffalo Bills	16	286	17.9	1673	104.6	3433	214.6	5106	319.1
Denver Broncos	17	359	21.1	1866	109.8	3574	210.2	5440	320.0
New England Patriots	17	347	20.4	1793	105.5	3681	216.5	5474	322.0
Baltimore Ravens	17	315	18.5	1566	92.1	3947	232.2	5513	324.3
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	17	358	21.1	2052	120.7	3461	203.6	5513	324.3
Kansas City Chiefs	17	369	21.7	1823	107.2	3756	220.9	5579	328.2
Dallas Cowboys	17	342	20.1	2198	129.3	3415	200.9	5613	330.2
Pittsburgh Steelers	17	346	20.4	1838	108.1	3779	222.3	5617	330.4
Cleveland Browns	17	381	22.4	2295	135.0	3336	196.2	5631	331.2
Indianapolis Colts	17	427	25.1	2109	124.1	3569	209.9	5678	334.0
Cincinnati Bengals	16	322	20.1	1706	106.6	3665	229.1	5371	335.7
Green Bay Packers	17	371	21.8	2372	139.5	3349	197.0	5721	336.5
Miami Dolphins	17	399	23.5	1751	103.0	3992	234.8	5743	337.8
Los Angeles Rams	17	384	22.6	1956	115.1	3842	226.0	5798	341.1
Los Angeles Chargers	17	384	22.6	2478	145.8	3406	200.4	5884	346.1
Arizona Cardinals	17	449	26.4	2016	118.6	3915	230.3	5931	348.9
Carolina Panthers	17	374	22.0	2085	122.6	3868	227.5	5953	350.2
Tennessee Titans	17	359	21.1	1307	76.9	4671	274.8	5978	351.6
Jacksonville Jaguars	17	350	20.6	1951	114.8	4055	238.5	6006	353.3
New York Giants	17	371	21.8	2451	144.2	3638	214.0	6089	358.2
Seattle Seahawks	17	401	23.6	2554	150.2	3595	211.5	6149	361.7
Atlanta Falcons	17	386	22.7	2214	130.2	3942	231.9	6156	362.1
Las Vegas Raiders	17	418	24.6	2087	122.8	4129	242.9	6216	365.6
Chicago Bears	17	463	27.2	2674	157.3	3716	218.6	6390	375.9
Houston Texans	17	420	24.7	2894	170.2	3558	209.3	6452	379.5
Minnesota Vikings	17	427	25.1	2093	123.1	4515	265.6	6608	388.7
Detroit Lions	17	427	25.1	2491	146.5	4179	245.8	6670	392.4

 

[Aven8]

The first one is on Dak....but when is that route ever OK?

He had no idea what to do at the top of it and decided to do nothing.

He was actually coming back to the football. It’s a timing route and has to be on point. While I hate the comebacks it’s the offense. Aikman use to release before out of the break to a spot. The offense calls for you to be in that spot.

 

[Cowboys5217]

You love that Bucs game don’t you … send me your address privately. I am going to have a trophy made and sent to you… my treat !

If you'll notice it is all he has left to hang on to at this point.

 

[SexyDexy52]

I didn't watch this one but from watching other ones I can just hear Warner saying....

"I don't know what the OC is trying to do here but Dak is little late with the throw, but OC should have helped him out by having this route combination instead of that one. That route combination has no purpose, and the timing of the play is all wrong".

Basically, he thinks Dak is late with some passes, but the OC could have done a better job and helped him out with better route combo.

Well that does actually sum up the Dallas offense pretty damn well!

 

[Ken]

So we are back to blaming most everyone else but Dak. Got it. No one said Washington was all on Dak. The team largely played crappy. But Dak was right there with the rest of them as he was putrid himself.

Great, we run a lot of curls. That doesn't mean Dak should just throw into double coverage because that's the "scheme". Understand the concept of a compounding problem. Maybe the play call was wrong but Dak compounds it by making poor throws.

I said it dozens of times now that Dak was bad vs SF.. very disappointed in him.

Not saying he is garbage and can never do it like most on this board though.

 

[Aven8]

wheres the best place to see the tape?

From Warner in the OP..

 

[America's Cowboy]

As I suspected.

It's everyone's fault but Dak's. He's an elite QB being held back by the GM, the WRs, the coaches, his QB instruction, the RBs, the OL, etc.

PS - Some of this isn't even accurate. For example, the Cowboys OL actually rates pretty well statistically in pass blocking. They were 4th in sacks allowed. Football Outsiders has them rated as a Top 7 pass blocking OL. So blaming the OL for Dak's passing issues is a reach.

Not true. I stated game night that Dak choked during key moments.

As for the Oline, several reputable sites had the Oline amongst the worst (28 out of 32) in pass block win rate.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...aderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams

 

[Ken]

Well that does actually sum up the Dallas offense pretty damn well!

Ya, like I stated yesterday on here somewhere...the only time I felt like the OC made a difference and helped the qb was on our TD drive.

Other than that it was helter skelter.

 

[Sydla]

I said it dozens of times now that Dak was bad vs SF.. very disappointed in him.

Not saying he is garbage and can never do it like most on this board though.

I never said he was garbage either. But he is inconsistent. It's kind of preposterous to argue that he wasn't this season.

 

[Ken]

He was actually coming back to the football. It’s a timing route and has to be on point. While I hate the comebacks it’s the offense. Aikman use to release before out of the break to a spot. The offense calls for you to be in that spot.

Dak throws it like that too...it is a staple of our offense after all.

I played the position...I would never run a comeback like Gallup did.

The defender ran it better than he did.

 

[Ken]

I never said he was garbage either. But he is inconsistent. It's kind of preposterous to argue that he wasn't this season.

The whole offense was inconsistent. Who does that fall on?

Coaching.

We need a seasoned playcaller/qb guru. This teammate coaching an offense has run its course.

 

[BoysForLife]

As I suspected.

It's everyone's fault but Dak's. He's an elite QB being held back by the GM, the WRs, the coaches, his QB instruction, the RBs, the OL, etc.

PS - Some of this isn't even accurate. For example, the Cowboys OL actually rates pretty well statistically in pass blocking. They were 4th in sacks allowed. Football Outsiders has them rated as a Top 7 pass blocking OL. So blaming the OL for Dak's passing issues is a reach.

Bbbbbbuuuuttttt

Pass block win rate. What about pass block win rate? You know, that obscure and meaningless stat that no one even knew existed before Dak exhausted all other excuses.....

 

[BoysForLife]

Not true. I stated game night that Dak choked during key moments.

As for the Oline, several reputable sites had the Oline amongst the worst (28 out of 32) in pass block win rate.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16733018625743&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams

And there you go. Right on cue

Cowboys near top of league in least sacks and least pressures allowed.

But "pass block win rate". Whatever the hell that is lol

 

[McKDaddy]

I guarantee you if Jerry tries to trade Dak (with Dak's approval as to which team(s) to approach), Bill Belichik and the Patriots would make a trade for Dak. Then all of these Dak haters would be here regretting and complaining for the next 5+ years while watching Dak and the Patriots win a couple of Super Bowls. I guarantee it.

Jesus. Bill doesn't tolerate players who can't carry out their duties.

 

[BoysForLife]

Not true. I stated game night that Dak choked during key moments.

As for the Oline, several reputable sites had the Oline amongst the worst (28 out of 32) in pass block win rate.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-teams#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16733018625743&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34536376/2022-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings-top-players-

And there you go. Right on cue

Cowboys near top of league in least sacks and least pressures allowed.

But "pass block win rate". Whatever the hell that is lol

 

[America's Cowboy]

And there you go. Right on cue

Cowboys near top of league in least sacks and least pressures allowed.

But "pass block win rate". Whatever the hell that is lol

Go get educated instead of rattling. You might learn something.