La'el Collins Thread - Cleared post 767; visited Cowboys - 05/06/15

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Then why did a consensus first round pick go undrafted by all 32 teams if he is "not even a suspect".

Apparently you know something the league doesn't.

Because the sketchy situation made him a high risk factor, and because he said he wouldn't sign if he went outside of the first round, meaning any team the drafted him would risk additionally simply wasting a draft pick.
 

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so is he going to sign anywhere as an UDFA? nothing yet...Dallas drafted OL and then grabbed another in UDFA...they see the value of the position (obviously)
 

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so is he going to sign anywhere as an UDFA? nothing yet...Dallas drafted OL and then grabbed another in UDFA...they see the value of the position (obviously)
His agency said again this morning that he's going to meet with the police on Monday, then talk to teams after that. It's been reported that some teams are convinced he didn't do it after making their own investigations. The guy also passed a lie detector test. Poor guy.
 

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I really hope Dallas is all in on this kid after his Monday meeting.

We could end up with three first round talents.
 

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I really hope Dallas is all in on this kid after his Monday meeting.

We could end up with three first round talents.

You don't think 31-other teams are slobbering over him as well
 

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If he's cleared, go after him. I'd think he'd like to be part of this line for years to come. Probably overtake Free in fairly short order.
 

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If he's cleared, go after him. I'd think he'd like to be part of this line for years to come. Probably overtake Free in fairly short order.

He'll have a walki-in starring role on a good team with a weaker OL someplace if he wants it.
 

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You don't think 31-other teams are slobbering over him as well

I bet some teams have him completely off the board regardless of what happens Monday.

I hope we aren't one of those teams.
 

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He'll have a walki-in starring role on a good team with a weaker OL someplace if he wants it.

If the money is the same, why not come in here and be a part of a machine. He might beat out Free.

Dallas would have a line of 25 and under players.
 

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I would obviously go after him hard. Being the Dallas Cowboys I say you have a chance. Although teams can offer him guarantee day one starter. I don't think Dallas could guarantee that. I would be opening the wallet big time if he is cleared of any wrongdoing.
 

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I would obviously go after him hard. Being the Dallas Cowboys I say you have a chance. Although teams can offer him guarantee day one starter. I don't think Dallas could guarantee that. I would be opening the wallet big time if he is cleared of any wrongdoing.

Not being able to offer him the status of a day one starter pretty much wrecks our chances of getting him. And given their relationship with Doug Free and what he means to this team, I don't think they could outright guarantee that.

I would however guarantee him a starting spot at either LG or RT. He would have to beat out Leary or Free, but he would start at one of the positions.
 

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If the money is the same, why not come in here and be a part of a machine. He might beat out Free.

Dallas would have a line of 25 and under players.

Because he'd have to wait to start. He'll take a one year deal on a good team with a guaranteed starting position to parlay that into a pay day with guaranteed money the year after if he's any good.
 

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Not being able to offer him the status of a day one starter pretty much wrecks our chances of getting him. And given their relationship with Doug Free and what he means to this team, I don't think they could outright guarantee that.

I would however guarantee him a starting spot at either LG or RT. He would have to beat out Leary or Free, but he would start at one of the positions.

Problem with that is he's not taking a long term deal, so you'd only get him for one season. If we like him over Leary, maybe we'd do that, but that's not much of a win in that case.
 

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Because he'd have to wait to start. He'll take a one year deal on a good team with a guaranteed starting position to parlay that into a pay day with guaranteed money the year after if he's any good.

Not sure teams are going to be interested in paying much on a one year player they have to coach up as a rookie.
 

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Problem with that is he's not taking a long term deal, so you'd only get him for one season. If we like him over Leary, maybe we'd do that, but that's not much of a win in that case.

Depends on the long term deal being offered.

Free gets hurt in preseason. Now what?

Build on strength. Pay him.
 

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Problem with that is he's not taking a long term deal, so you'd only get him for one season. If we like him over Leary, maybe we'd do that, but that's not much of a win in that case.

Even getting him for a year makes him a Cowboy, and makes it much more likely to sign him over another team next year. I'm not saying it would be ideal, I'm saying that it would be better than nothing.
 

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Because he'd have to wait to start. He'll take a one year deal on a good team with a guaranteed starting position to parlay that into a pay day with guaranteed money the year after if he's any good.

Except there's this thing where you have to accrue 4 years of service in the league before you are eligible for unrestricted free agency.
 
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