Last week of Terry Glenn's NFL Career?

[Shaun]

If the team was completely against the surgery he elected to have, they could have placed him on IR.

 

[Stash]

If the team was completely against the surgery he elected to have, they could have placed him on IR.

Yeah, that would have showed him!

We're paying you but not letting you work!

If only my boss hated me so!

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Glenn just might shock the NFL

 

[Stash]

Glenn just might shock the NFL

By being the first player ever to return fully healthy from a degenerative knee condition?

Then maybe he could make millions by selling his secret recovery methods on the internet!

:jackpot:

 

[khiladi]

By being the first player ever to return fully healthy from a degenerative knee condition?

Then maybe he could make millions by selling his secret recovery methods on the internet!

:jackpot:

I just don't get it... What makes people think Terry Glenn has some special powers to come back from a condition that is quite frankly devastating for any athlete. Greg Odom, many people are speculating that he is done, despite being young. And he had the surgery. The guy doesn't get hit at the knees in the sport he plays.

BTW, I never understand what Terry Glenn did for the Cowboys that provides justification for all this emotional attachment from the fans... He had what? 2 seasons over 1000 yards, with the rest of his years either not a full season, or below 1000 yards... It is all blind emotionalism...

 

[fortdick]

He's pitching a fit at having to sign a split contract at all. Do you think he is refusing to sign just so he doesn't have to practice?


Really?

Really? Maybe this involves too much reasoning, but the Cowboys can't afford to let him practice. They want him to sign a split contract. If he doesn't and they let him practice and he hurts his knee, they are out of pocket for the whole 1.7 million.

This is business and Glenn is trying to make as much as he can befopre he calls it quits. The best thing that can happen for him is they let him practice so he can blame his bad knee on training camp and get that final paycheck.

Glenn isn't doing a thing out of loyalty to the Cowboys. He is looking out for Terry Glenn. The Cowboys should look out for the team.

 

[fortdick]

He is a veteran who needs little to no practice to be efficient in a game.

He is a veteran player that has exactly four plays under his belt with his new coach and OC. He hasn't practiced the system with any regularity and he hasn't spent any real time working on his timing with his QB.

Glenn must be really something to just walk into the new system, pick it up and have the entire NFL lay down at his feet as he runs ramapant thru secondarys.

You man love for TG isshowing. The guy was good in his day, but let it go. He is done - stick a fork in him.

 

[Stash]

He is a veteran player that has exactly four plays under his belt with his new coach and OC. He hasn't practiced the system with any regularity and he hasn't spent any real time working on his timing with his QB.

Glenn must be really something to just walk into the new system, pick it up and have the entire NFL lay down at his feet as he runs ramapant thru secondarys.

You man love for TG isshowing. The guy was good in his day, but let it go. He is done - stick a fork in him.

Some of it is truly amazing.

He goes from being a guy who couldn't play the entire regular season - and who did nothing when he did come back - to a healthy secret weapon the entire league should fear.

And now he's a guy who doesn't need training camp or practice to tear up opponents?

And all this based on six months of inactivity?

Amazing!

Maybe all of the other NFL players who had their careers ended by degenerative knee conditions should get on 'The Terry Glenn Workout' program?

 

[fortdick]

I tell ya, this waiting on Terry Glenn instead of moving on is going to really hurt this team. We saw it last year when for the last month and a half all we heard was Glenn is almost ready. When TO got hurt and we really needed him, he was nowhere to be found.

Are we going to have to fall for that again before we realize he isn't going to come back and we need a true #2 receiver?

 

[Idgit]

Really? Maybe this involves too much reasoning, but the Cowboys can't afford to let him practice. They want him to sign a split contract. If he doesn't and they let him practice and he hurts his knee, they are out of pocket for the whole 1.7 million.

This is business and Glenn is trying to make as much as he can befopre he calls it quits. The best thing that can happen for him is they let him practice so he can blame his bad knee on training camp and get that final paycheck.

Glenn isn't doing a thing out of loyalty to the Cowboys. He is looking out for Terry Glenn. The Cowboys should look out for the team.

"I want to play this year, and I really feel I have chance so I'm really leaning toward taking the [damaged] piece out and trying to play this year even though I'm risking the rest of my career by doing that," Glenn said Friday night. "I think that's what I'm going to do. I'm not sure, but I've played 12 years and don't have a lot of years left. I want to win now, and I think we have a chance to win now.

"My Super Bowl chances are running out, so that's what I will probably do. But I know there's a great percentage risk that I could do that, ruin my knee, never play again and have to limp the rest of my life."
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Sound like a guy making a business decision to you?

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-3-29/Glenn-Out-For-Season-In-Dallas-.html

 

[Stash]

I tell ya, this waiting on Terry Glenn instead of moving on is going to really hurt this team. We saw it last year when for the last month and a half all we heard was Glenn is almost ready. When TO got hurt and we really needed him, he was nowhere to be found.

Exactly the way I see it!

Every day that they play the waiting game is a day they don't move on and address the future.

Are we going to have to fall for that again before we realize he isn't going to come back and we need a true #2 receiver?

I sure hope not.

My worst fear is another season playing 'The Waiting Game'.

If Glenn gets his money, he'll be in no rush to play, just like last season.

 

[Idgit]

I tell ya, this waiting on Terry Glenn instead of moving on is going to really hurt this team. We saw it last year when for the last month and a half all we heard was Glenn is almost ready. When TO got hurt and we really needed him, he was nowhere to be found.

Are we going to have to fall for that again before we realize he isn't going to come back and we need a true #2 receiver?

Sounds like you've got cause and effect mixed up here. Waiting on Glenn is not what caused the problem. Not having an alternative to Terry Glenn is what caused the problem when TO went down.

That problem hasn't changed, and there's not an obvious solution to it on the horizon short of--you guessed it--Terry Glenn. Yet some of us don't want to wait for that answer b/c it means holding up a roster shot that could be kept warm by a bottom-of-the-roster type that can be found for a dime-a-dozen on any other NFL practice squad.

 

[Stash]

Sound like a guy making a business decision to you?

This sure does:

Sports > NFL document.write(today_string());Friday, Jul 18, 2008
Dallas Cowboys' Terry Glenn wants out; Terrell Owens excused from minicamp



By Clarence E. Hill Jr. and Rick Herrin

Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Terry Glenn said Tuesday that he is not going to sign a $500,000 injury waiver with the team and wants out of Dallas.


The team has asked Glenn to sign the waiver in case he reinjures his surgically repaired right knee.
“I was told I would be cut if I didn’t sign the waiver. What I’m saying is that I’m not signing the waiver,” Glenn said in a text message. “So I guess they’re going to release me as promised. I just want to get on with my career somewhere where someone wants my abilities. I still have fight and I don’t give up.”

The knee kept Glenn out of 15 games last season. Because of it, Glenn did not pass a physical at the end of last season. He did not take a physical with his teammates Monday.

Although the Cowboys want him to try to return this season, they believe the knee could give out at any time.
Glenn feels he has earned the right to attempt to continue his career without potentially having to forfeit more than half his $1.74 million base salary for 2008.
The Cowboys have barred Glenn from practicing until he signs the waiver.

"I’d like for him to come back, but the nature of his injury is one that it can go in the next step," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. "So that’s too big of a risk for our team to take, and I don’t think any team will take that risk."
Jones, who said Glenn has not told him that he wants to be released, said the team plans to be patient with Glenn. Jones said there is no timetable for a decision.
"We’ll just see what happens between now and training camp," Jones said. The reporting date for training camp in Oxnard, Calif., is July 24.

When asked when this situation needs to be resolved, Jones said, "Day after Labor Day, as far as I’m concerned." The NFL final roster cutdown date is Labor Day, Sept. 1, and the season opener is Sept. 7.

Glenn, who is entering his 13th NFL season, has 593 receptions for 8,823 yards and 44 touchdowns. He has 23 100-yard receiving games, including six games of 148 yards or more.

The speedy receiver has been a deep threat in the Cowboys’ offense since arriving via a trade with Green Bay before the 2003 season. He has averaged 16 yards per catch with the Cowboys and 150 of his 208 regular-season receptions in Dallas have gained a first down.

The Cowboys began their three-day minicamp Tuesday, without Glenn or fellow wide receiver Terrell Owens, who was excused from the morning’s workout at Valley Ranch and will probably miss all three days of the mandatory minicamp.

 

[Idgit]

This sure does:

Sports > NFL document.write(today_string());Friday, Jul 18, 2008
Dallas Cowboys' Terry Glenn wants out; Terrell Owens excused from minicamp



By Clarence E. Hill Jr. and Rick Herrin

Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Terry Glenn said Tuesday that he is not going to sign a $500,000 injury waiver with the team and wants out of Dallas.


The team has asked Glenn to sign the waiver in case he reinjures his surgically repaired right knee.
“I was told I would be cut if I didn’t sign the waiver. What I’m saying is that I’m not signing the waiver,” Glenn said in a text message. “So I guess they’re going to release me as promised. I just want to get on with my career somewhere where someone wants my abilities. I still have fight and I don’t give up.”

The knee kept Glenn out of 15 games last season. Because of it, Glenn did not pass a physical at the end of last season. He did not take a physical with his teammates Monday.

Although the Cowboys want him to try to return this season, they believe the knee could give out at any time.
Glenn feels he has earned the right to attempt to continue his career without potentially having to forfeit more than half his $1.74 million base salary for 2008.
The Cowboys have barred Glenn from practicing until he signs the waiver.

"I’d like for him to come back, but the nature of his injury is one that it can go in the next step," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said. "So that’s too big of a risk for our team to take, and I don’t think any team will take that risk."
Jones, who said Glenn has not told him that he wants to be released, said the team plans to be patient with Glenn. Jones said there is no timetable for a decision.
"We’ll just see what happens between now and training camp," Jones said. The reporting date for training camp in Oxnard, Calif., is July 24.

When asked when this situation needs to be resolved, Jones said, "Day after Labor Day, as far as I’m concerned." The NFL final roster cutdown date is Labor Day, Sept. 1, and the season opener is Sept. 7.

Glenn, who is entering his 13th NFL season, has 593 receptions for 8,823 yards and 44 touchdowns. He has 23 100-yard receiving games, including six games of 148 yards or more.

The speedy receiver has been a deep threat in the Cowboys’ offense since arriving via a trade with Green Bay before the 2003 season. He has averaged 16 yards per catch with the Cowboys and 150 of his 208 regular-season receptions in Dallas have gained a first down.

The Cowboys began their three-day minicamp Tuesday, without Glenn or fellow wide receiver Terrell Owens, who was excused from the morning’s workout at Valley Ranch and will probably miss all three days of the mandatory minicamp.

This article doesn't remotely support your argument, but whatever. We know that TG doesn't want to sign the waiver that was ultimately presented to him, and we know why.

 

[Stash]

This article doesn't remotely support your argument, but whatever. We know that TG doesn't want to sign the waiver that was ultimately presented to him, and we know why.

Keep the blinders over your own eyes.

I clearly see a guy 'talking the talk' and refusing to 'walk the walk'.

The stance in the above article is all about business.

Your 'Super Bowl hero' would rather get cut from a Super Bowl contender than share part of the risk in coming back from a degenerative knee condition.

The team has no problem paying him his $1.7 million. All he has to do is actually earn his money this year.

If he's not willing to do that, he can walk and try to steal free money from some other franchise.

 

[joseephuss]

Exactly the way I see it!

Every day that they play the waiting game is a day they don't move on and address the future.



I sure hope not.

My worst fear is another season playing 'The Waiting Game'.

If Glenn gets his money, he'll be in no rush to play, just like last season.

Do you really think that Glenn being here right now prevents Dallas from making a move to get another quality receiver? I don't.

If they want to make a move to get someone they will. If they can. You just can't snap your fingers and make a trade happen. You need a willing trade partner and a receiver that is both worthy of trading for and fits into the Cowboy's salary cap. At this point, that is more difficult to obtain.

If they cut Glenn right now Dallas would still have a difficult time acquiring a receiver that could help. Glenn's presence does not prevent Dallas from making a move in any way, so they are not playing the waiting game. They just may not like what they can get or can get what they like at this point.

 

[Stash]

Do you really think that Glenn being here right now prevents Dallas from making a move to get another quality receiver? I don't.

If they want to make a move to get someone they will. If they can. You just can't snap your fingers and make a trade happen. You need a willing trade partner and a receiver that is both worthy of trading for and fits into the Cowboy's salary cap. At this point, that is more difficult to obtain.

If they cut Glenn right now Dallas would still have a difficult time acquiring a receiver that could help. Glenn's presence does not prevent Dallas from making a move in any way, so they are not playing the waiting game. They just may not like what they can get or can get what they like at this point.

I'm as tired of wasting time with Glenn as anything else. Every day this goes by unresolved is another day closer to being right back where the team was last year. Playing the 'will he or won't he?' game.

I would rather give one of the lesser name guys on the team the chance than to waste anymore time with Glenn's game.

I would give him a training camp ultimatum.

Either be there from Day One or we're moving on and concentrating on what we do have.

The team could then work to develop what they have and still look for alternatives without the distraction.

 

[LeonDixson]

Really? Maybe this involves too much reasoning, but the Cowboys can't afford to let him practice. They want him to sign a split contract. If he doesn't and they let him practice and he hurts his knee, they are out of pocket for the whole 1.7 million.

This is business and Glenn is trying to make as much as he can befopre he calls it quits. The best thing that can happen for him is they let him practice so he can blame his bad knee on training camp and get that final paycheck.

Glenn isn't doing a thing out of loyalty to the Cowboys. He is looking out for Terry Glenn. The Cowboys should look out for the team.

You're saying basically the same thing I'm saying (or vice versa) I agree with you completely. I mentioned that Glenn was being held out of practice by the Cowboys, and the other poster was arguing that he was voluntarily skipping practice to avoid injury.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Actually, it has been the Cowboys decision not to let him practice; not Terry's.

So lets me just go over this:

1. He wont sign
2. He cant practice
3. He is coming off injury
4. He is old
5. He hasnt really played in over a year

AND....

we are going to depend on this guy when he finally signs right before season.... not practice or anything?

Wow... whoah.... wow....

 

[Idgit]

Keep the blinders over your own eyes.

I clearly see a guy 'talking the talk' and refusing to 'walk the walk'.

The stance in the above article is all about business.

Your 'Super Bowl hero' would rather get cut from a Super Bowl contender than share part of the risk in coming back from a degenerative knee condition.

The team has no problem paying him his $1.7 million. All he has to do is actually earn his money this year.

If he's not willing to do that, he can walk and try to steal free money from some other franchise.

Dude. You need to get a grip on context. He talked the talk last year, and then walked the walk in terms of the treatment and rehab.

Then, you take a quote from a year later, after he's feeling snubbed by the team because they agreed to a split contract and the offer came in 50k less than the number they'd agreed to, and quote an article where he says he'd basically rather be released than feel taken advantage of.

You already know he'd play for the 1.7M, so that's not worth addressing. You already know he'd play for a split contract, so there's no point arguing about that. If you can't get past the reason he's dissatisfied with the particular split contract that was put in front of him, that's fine, too. But let's not all pretend that the issue is money, because while 50k is a lot of jack, it's not anything to stage this sort of histrionics about.

The reality is, you're knee-jerking on Glenn, just like you knee-jerked earlier in the offseason on alternatives to Glenn. You like to pretend you're doing this out of some notion of efficiency and realism that you've got and that other people don't seem to possess, but the reality is, it's a reflexive condition that's not well thought out and is reactionary for all of the wrong reasons.