Laufenberg: Romo not just good, but GREAT quarterback

tm1119

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Lol at you thinking Troy "got lucky"
I take Troy over Romo in a heart beat

Truly great players play their best when the chips are down
Romo never even took the team to a NFCCG let alone the SB

That is how QBs greatness is and should be judged

Romo is good not great

So Trent Dilfer > Tony Romo right? Doug Williams > Dan Marino?

It's a team sport. Romo had a better skill set and more talent than Troy did. Not saying Troy wasn't also great in his own right, but he got lucky being on the right team at the right time. Didn't say his career was lucky in terms of his talent.
 

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I knew I opened up another can of worms when I posted this article.:laugh:

Usually ex QBs and coaches speak much more highly of Romo than regular fans. Staubach, Aikman, Belichick, Holmgren,etc....they say he is not just good but great.
But not 100% of them (see Theisman):muttley:

At this stage, people have made up their minds one way or the other. We can all rehash the arguments and I doubt we'd ever convince anyone--or if so, maybe 1 in 50 or so.

I tend to think Romo would have at least 2-3 SB rings if he played on the teams Roger or Troy played on. That is not saying he's as good and there is no way to ever prove it.
In fact the proof leans against him because the fact is that the team (who most would say were usually not great) did not ever make deep playoff runs with him, let alone win it all.

Other than Brady, its pretty clear that even if you do have a really good team, all has to fall in place to win it all.
The best team in the NFL in many years was the 2007 Patriots. By some freak miracle that team was held to 14 points and lost in the SB. The team that beat them was the team that upset Dallas.

The stars lined up for Brees once and he got one (and surely will not get another), Rodgers has just one...the same as Dilfer, Rob Johnson.
Team game folks.

But again, arguing this is just peeing in the wind. I'm not too bothered by those who disagree.
The only time I ever get a bit ticked is when it gets personal--like preposterous notions like he has no heart or isn't; tough or...when the data is false like hefolds in the 4th qtr mentioned in the article.
That's all
 
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I'm just glad that I keep some folks on ignore and don't have to listen to an attitude that didn't ever have to depend upon great accomplishments for his own good...
 

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Not great. Very good, but not great. Results bear that out. Don't give me the excuses. Great QB's make it happen. At least one time over the course of a decade would have worked. Don't get your feelings hurt. Great dude, good QB.
Amen. I am sure l have said this about 10,000 times!;)!
 

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Not great. Very good, but not great. Results bear that out. Don't give me the excuses. Great QB's make it happen. At least one time over the course of a decade would have worked. Don't get your feelings hurt. Great dude, good QB.
I've never been in the camp that put him at the very top tier.

But just curious what year that would be. Maybe his full year starting in 2007? Maybe. Though the undefeated Pats would have been in the way.
Other years, if you are driving a Corolla you aren't going to "make it happen" vs a Ferrari no matter how much you want to.
 

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Just curious what year that would be. Maybe his full year starting in 2007? Maybe. Though the undefeated Pats would have been in the way.
Other years, if you are driving a Corolla you aren't going to "make it happen" vs a Ferrari no matter how much you want to.

Arguments against Tony's real ability all become arguments about team accomplishments fairly quickly for a reason.
 

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Tony Romo was a good QB and sometimes very good...but he was never great. His overall record speaks for it's self. When it comes to Tony, God bless him, there has always been a lot of revisionist history at play.
His overall "record" isn't an indictment of his play, it's an indictment of the team overall. Just as the playoff record. When are people going to realize that.
 

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This article and the narrative Babe mentions about Romo is why I would be very happy if he won a ring with his new team. The entire narrative changes if he wins one ring...I have always said it and still believe it.

Obviously I wouldn't want him to beat the 'Boys in the Bowl but any other team he faces in the playoffs or the Bowl...I'm 100% rooting for Romo and his team. If the 'Boys aren't playing for the chip then I hope it's Romo and his team.

Edit: as an aside Gilbert Arenas (former NBA All Star) wrote a post on Instagram on a topic similar except it dealt with greatness in the NBA. Despite Gil being somewhat controversial, I suggest all who think a ring is what defines a player as great, read his post. It was in response to Shaq throwing shade to a current NBA star. Great take by Gil.
 
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Truly great players play their best when the chips are down
Romo never even took the team to a NFCCG let alone the SB

That is how QBs greatness is and should be judged
Then explain Brad Johnson & Trent Dilfer. We'll wait. On second thought, don't. It will be as equally ignorant as your above statement.
 

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His overall "record" isn't an indictment of his play, it's an indictment of the team overall. Just as the playoff record. When are people going to realize that.
Really?? Interesting. He has had 13-3...12-4...11-5...clubs and still managed to find a way to win just 2 wildcard games.truly GREAT QB's finds a way to win with clubs like that. Not to put too fine a point on this argument...take a look a ordinary players like Eli Manning and Russell Williams....not to even discuss what Brady has done with very average offensive talent!!
 

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Really?? Interesting. He has had 13-3...12-4...11-5...clubs and still managed to find a way to win just 2 wildcard games.truly GREAT QB's finds a way to win with clubs like that. Not to put too fine a point on this argument...take a look a ordinary players like Eli Manning and Russell Williams....not to even discuss what Brady has done with very average offensive talent!!
Lol... yeah let's look at Eli and Wilson and their defenses. Let's also examine those teams he had. Your record at the end of the means nothing. This past year should tell you that.
 

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So Trent Dilfer > Tony Romo right? Doug Williams > Dan Marino?

It's a team sport. Romo had a better skill set and more talent than Troy did. Not saying Troy wasn't also great in his own right, but he got lucky being on the right team at the right time. Didn't say his career was lucky in terms of his talent.

You clearly said that Troy got lucky to play on a great team. Don't back track now.

Marino got to the SB
Romo never even made it to a conf CG
Can you name some great QBs that never once even got to the conference CG let alone the SB?
Greatness is defined by what you do when the bright lights are on
Romo has won 2 playoff game in his entire career. That is now greatness?
 

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As usual, the anti-Romo contingent is getting rekt.

I've never been against Romo
I've praised him consistently but he is not a all time great QB when greatness for QBs in the NFL is always defined by post season success
A QB who played in the NFL for over 10 years and been on 13-3 and 12-4 teams yet won only 2 wild card games cannot be called an all time great or be in the ROH of a franchise with the history of the Cowboys
 

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If he were a great QB he doesn't miss the playoffs in 2011-2013. A great QB gets you those 9 wins. That all it took! Aaron Rodgers showed you what a great QB does even with crap around him.

Tony Romo couldn't get us 9 wins in the second weakest division in the sport those three years. Peyton Manning equaled 10 wins a year by himself.

When Dak's done Romo will be viewed in his rightful place... beneath Danny White
 
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I've never been against Romo
I've praised him consistently but he is not a all time great QB when greatness for QBs in the NFL is always defined by post season success
A QB who played in the NFL for over 10 years and been on 13-3 and 12-4 teams yet won only 2 wild card games cannot be called an all time great or be in the ROH of a franchise with the history of the Cowboys

How many did Barry Sanders win? Is he an all time great?
 
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