Leadership aside, is Cowboys Dak Prescott ready to fix issues in 2018?

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QB heavy draft. And his line was atrocious
And he has a slow baseball delivery that he has been working on to quicken up. He's in the process, still not there yet. Is also terrible about locking onto one WR and staring him down, as well as lacking the pocket sense to feel the rush coming. Has problems spreading the ball around.

He slipped because he's not ready to play pro QB.
 

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The answer is only a no in your mind's eye. You're saying despite all and any attempts that this team makes to make him successful that he's doomed to fail? That's typical of those who have an agenda to discount any chance of Dak having success. If your eyes tell you that Dak is incapable of recovering from last season, your vision, both physical and mental, isn't what it should be. Try visiting your nearest local eye specialist for assistance or better yet, someone who knows something about the intricacies of pro football for guidance.

His OL and specifically the backups who were rushed into service failed miserably to serve their purposes in pass protection. Any 2nd year QB would be adversely affected by such a terribly pathetic display of pass protection that Green and Bell had to offer in the 2nd half of last season. Anyone not taking that into account has a devoted agenda to ignore the obvious. Do make an honest attempt to afford a young QB the opportunity to redeem himself from an unfortunate situation that was largely beyond his control. Poor protection and performances by his WRs were greatly to blame for what you're pinning on Dak.

Your opinion isn't a certainty, but I would say that the smart money is betting that the factors you cite significantly affected Dak's play. I'm not sure why anyone could see it differently.

If you took out Julio Jones and inserted a guy who couldn't ply a lick (Dez) and took out Atlanta's top two backs (because they have two pretty good backs) and inserted Alfred Morris Atlanta would have probably missed the playoffs last year.
 

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It was his mechnai9cs under duress that were the real problem in college. That's what the NYG DC watched in his first game against him, he watched what AU, AL and LSU did and replicated that in both games and beat him both times. These guys are too good at "what doesn't this QB not like to do? OK, let's see how many times we can make him do that".

I can see removing Dez from this being helpful to him since they admitted they were trying to force the ball to him to keep him happy but I do not agree that Witten being out of it is good for Dak. He wasn't glitz and glamour but he was a rock for a young QB and learned to see the field as a QB would see it, that's why he was so effective with Romo, they saw it the same way.
I think losing Witten is dammm near calamitous.
 

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[QUOTE="CowboyRoy, post: 8188278, member: 34847"]For anyone that understands football it was quite clear that Dak was never the issue. When the pieces were there around him, he produced, end of story. When Zeke and the Oline and Lee vanished so did the entire team and offense. If Dak is guilty of anything, its being a 2nd year QB. Nothing more.

Watching fooball with blinders on is not good for you. Dak had the entire team available for the most important game of the season last year (Seattle at home week 16) defence played lights out with Lee and they held Seattle to 169 yards of total offence. Thank god we had Dan Bailey to kick 4 FG's to get us 12 points. All the pieces were there for that game. What happenned?[/QUOTE]
Bad game. Horrid coaching, hurt left tackle, bad receivers, bad offense, tough defense. Happens to all qb’s. Especially 2nd year guys.

The blind guy is you. I see a 2nd year qb growing pains. And you see what exactly? Do you really expect him to b of. Ready? Dumb logic.
 

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Morris sucked horribly last year, which he is not playing for the Cowboys anymore, and as far as I know he isn't playing for anyone else yet either.

He didn't scare defenses, so they didn't key on him at all. That's why we had a hard time beating decent teams with Zeke out. I would have rather had Jackson last year to see what he would have done. Maybe nothing, but Morris was a complete and utter FAIL last year.
Shocking how a few long runs through semi truck holes makes anyone believe Morris was good last year. He's just OK.
 

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I understand football, and yes Dak was a very big part of many of the problems. He is definitely not innocent in all of it. You basically, are giving the narrative everyone is saying more ammunition. If he is surrounded by the best, he will be his best. I am looking for the QB that doesn't have to be surrounded by 8 Pro Bowl players on offense, to be successful. We see it done all the time... Now the question is, can he do it?

He has already proven he can do it as a rookie. As he gains more experience he will grow in his ability to carry the team. Simple simple evolution. Qb 101 type stuff.
 

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I think losing Witten is dammm near calamitous.

No. It's a blessing in disguise. Witten has held this team back for several years. Oddly enough we may have the least talent on the roster at tight end at any time during Witten's tenure. Losing Hanna hurt.
 

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No. It's a blessing in disguise. Witten has held this team back for several years. Oddly enough we may have the least talent on the roster at tight end at any time during Witten's tenure. Losing Hanna hurt.
Odd take.
 

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Odd take.

Not if you think Witten was done several years ago. He couldn't block your grandmother. If we get a TE who can block (and actually play him). this running game can be scary good.
 

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Not if you think Witten was done several years ago. He couldn't block your grandmother. If we get a TE who can block (and actually play him). this running game can be scary good.
We don't have one. Not sure there's a starting TE on the roster.
 

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Wow. We have a guy going into his 3rd year and people are already wanting to write him off. If you guys were judging Aikman he would have been run out of town. He has some pretty bad games early in his career. We even flirted with Steve Walsh.

In this first year (1989) he went 0-11 and the only game won was when Walsh beat Washington and the next year (1990) he only won 7 games and had a whopping 66 QBR. In 1991 he went down and Steve Beuerlein won two games and their first playoff game. Aikman got the start in the 2nd game and lost.

With that setup who would have seen a hall of fame career? Other than him being picked #1 in the draft, he didn't look like the all pro he eventually became. So who knows 2 years in with Dak. It will take us another year or two to really know.
 

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Ya its the coaches fault for sure for sure lol....you know now that i think about it we would be in better hands at QB if JG put on the uniform and went under center at this point.......at least we would see a +20 yard completion from the pocket now and then!!!!
You guys are funny! Not! Coaching doesn’t matter? I guess you guys missed the playoff game vs GB last year, the Atlanta game, and the Seattle game. All games Garrett played a huge roll in us losing. Speaking of Garrett passing the ball. He would be a better, 50 something year old, back up QB than HC.
 

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The narrative on Dak Prescott has been he was figured out in 2017, he was a one-year wonder who was exposed as a fluke and made by the offensive line.

There is truth in there, but that isn’t the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Prescott was incapable of lifting his run-centric team when they lost their star running back to a six-game suspension and his stalwart left tackle and blindside protector.

The first eight games of the season, Prescott was playing at an MVP level. Then Ezekiel Elliott and Tyron Smith were lost and he played like a backup quarterback. Which is the real deal?

It’s probably somewhere in the middle, but in the middle is enough to lead the Cowboys to the promise land providing he doesn’t have to play behind a patchwork offensive line and without Elliott. The Cowboys went out and signed Cameron Fleming to make sure “Chaz Green, in at left tackle” never happens again. Now Prescott just needs to feel secure in the pocket again.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/31/dallas-cowboys-dak-prescott-2018-performance-preview/
I like your optimism and hope your right. The problem is what happened in the Denver game. The whole team was healthy and Dak was helpless.
 

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Dak has so much to work on and him trying to fix his accuracy while building on his velocity is like trying to run a 4.3 40 yard dash when youve already been training and the best you've ran is 5.0
Daks gonna be a 5.0 guy no matter what. If you want to compete with the best you have to be one of the best.
 

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Wow. We have a guy going into his 3rd year and people are already wanting to write him off. If you guys were judging Aikman he would have been run out of town. He has some pretty bad games early in his career. We even flirted with Steve Walsh.

In this first year (1989) he went 0-11 and the only game won was when Walsh beat Washington and the next year (1990) he only won 7 games and had a whopping 66 QBR. In 1991 he went down and Steve Beuerlein won two games and their first playoff game. Aikman got the start in the 2nd game and lost.

With that setup who would have seen a hall of fame career? Other than him being picked #1 in the draft, he didn't look like the all pro he eventually became. So who knows 2 years in with Dak. It will take us another year or two to really know.


Why don't you compare Prescott to Staubach?

Aikman was a "game manager " that had the luxury of playing in a time when the salary cap was non existent..

During Aikman's years , we could afford to have All Pro players across the board and Aikman's job was simply to drive the bus...I'm not so sure Aikman is in the HOF if he played for the browns...

Now, the issue with Prescott is that if he needs an All Pro supporting cast , we need to move on..

You can't pay Prescott 30 million a year and expect us to have an All Pro supporting cast..

We are already starting to deal with this issue with Lawrence and Martin..

Not to mention , Zeke will want to get paid as well and don't think we can just draft another Blue Chip RB because those go in the top 10 of the draft .

In the end , if Prescott is another Aikman (bus driver) we need to move on..

Either draft a Stud QB that can elevate a mediocre team , or keep an All Pro supporting cast and hand the keys of the bus to another cheap bus driver type QB.
 

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Why don't you compare Prescott to Staubach?

Aikman was a "game manager " that had the luxury of playing in a time when the salary cap was non existent..

During Aikman's years , we could afford to have All Pro players across the board and Aikman's job was simply to drive the bus...I'm not so sure Aikman is in the HOF if he played for the browns...

Now, the issue with Prescott is that if he needs an All Pro supporting cast , we need to move on..

You can't pay Prescott 30 million a year and expect us to have an All Pro supporting cast..

We are already starting to deal with this issue with Lawrence and Martin..

Not to mention , Zeke will want to get paid as well and don't think we can just draft another Blue Chip RB because those go in the top 10 of the draft .

In the end , if Prescott is another Aikman (bus driver) we need to move on..

Either draft a Stud QB that can elevate a mediocre team , or keep an All Pro supporting cast and hand the keys of the bus to another cheap bus driver type QB.

Bus Drivers don't get 20 million a year for driving the real talent around such as Zeke and our Offline!
Dak will not get a new contract and if he does it will be at league minimal!
 

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It has. And it may be pretty close at present.

Dak's first year was actually bad for his development. From struggle and strife come improvement and toughness. Dak had a lot to learn coming in, and he didn't learn enough of it due to the situation coming in. Now, the question is, will he learn from the struggles of last season? His attitude and work ethic say yes.

I think his work ethic isn't really in question. I think his attitude is great as well. But some times, no matter how much heart, drive, etc... you have, you just aren't able to be the one.

When people mention Tebow, he was a perfect example of sheer will. He had the physical traits, he had the drive, he had a great attitude, but he wasn't the one.

So my opinion of Dak the person is great, just not Dak the player. But, I am all for giving it another season. We will really know what we have when he is the starter for the 3rd season. There shouldn't be any questions left. He will either surprise me and succeed, or he won't.
 

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People act like he's Jay Cutler 2.0.......i don't understand this crap. The guys a baller .
 

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It wasn't Romo. It was Sanchez.
BS. Sanchez was a cheerleader and nothing more. We saw what happens with Sanchez at QB when he got his chance against the e-girls and it was horrible.
 
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