League Sources: Asking Price For Roy Williams(Detroit)...

[Stash]

Well the reports from the Lions are that they are shopping McDonald and that RW is not available. Its all over the place.

Conversely, the Ft Worth Star Telegram says this:

Briefly
Drew Rosenhaus said he and the Cowboys were having discussions about contract extensions for running back Marion Barber and receiver Terrell Owens. Neither Rosenhaus nor Jerry Jones would elaborate.
Don't expect the Cowboys to be able to trade for Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald. According to Cardinals general manager Rod Graves, the team is prepared to pay the nearly $17 million Fitzgerald is due.
NFL sources insist Lions receiver Roy Williams is available through a trade, but the asking price is at least one first-round draft pick.

Who knows what to believe?

 

[Spectre]

Jerry, please do this.

I have never agreed with you more.

 

[Angus]

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Last night we posted that our main source in Indy was reporting the Detroit Lions are shopping star wide receiver Roy Williams in hopes of getting a 2nd round pick in return -- either in the upcoming draft or next years draft.

This has created a buzz on many fan sites and has caused many to ask us why Detroit would even consider trading such a young and talented wide receiver for "only" a second round pick?

Here's the response from our source, when we asked the same question: Williams demands for a contract extenstion are pretty steep, which will knock down the Lions asking price in trades. He is reportedly looking for 8 to 10 million dollars a year, with a 28 million dollar signing bonus.

 

[Hoofbite]

Can you name how many WRs drafted since 2000 have been more productive in their first 4 seasons? It's a simple question really.

Its a simple question doctor. Would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs?

 

[Hoofbite]

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Last night we posted that our main source in Indy was reporting the Detroit Lions are shopping star wide receiver Roy Williams in hopes of getting a 2nd round pick in return -- either in the upcoming draft or next years draft.

This has created a buzz on many fan sites and has caused many to ask us why Detroit would even consider trading such a young and talented wide receiver for "only" a second round pick?

Here's the response from our source, when we asked the same question: Williams demands for a contract extenstion are pretty steep, which will knock down the Lions asking price in trades. He is reportedly looking for 8 to 10 million dollars a year, with a 28 million dollar signing bonus.

I doubt it. Its no secret that the Lions want to get rid of Roy because he will get rid of himself after this season.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Conversely, the Ft Worth Star Telegram says this:

Briefly
Drew Rosenhaus said he and the Cowboys were having discussions about contract extensions for running back Marion Barber and receiver Terrell Owens. Neither Rosenhaus nor Jerry Jones would elaborate.
Don't expect the Cowboys to be able to trade for Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald. According to Cardinals general manager Rod Graves, the team is prepared to pay the nearly $17 million Fitzgerald is due.
NFL sources insist Lions receiver Roy Williams is available through a trade, but the asking price is at least one first-round draft pick.

Who knows what to believe?

And the SF Chronicle and draftdaddy say its a second. I fhwat Angus just posted about him wanting 8 mil a season then its a def no way. You may think he could be top 10 but he didnt play like one.

 

[superpunk]

Now a second where the odds of successs drop dramatically then sure.

So, you don't want to draft a receiver in round 1 because the failure rate is so high, but you don't want to give up the extra first we have, and would rather give up a second where the odds of success drop dramatically.

Hopefully while you're waiting around for Jerry Rice to magically fall into our laps Jerry Jones is proactively pursuing a big-game WR like Roy Williams.

 

[skinsscalper]

I would trade our #28 in heartbeat for Williams. Jerry always seems to find a way to get the contract to work if really wants someone.

 

[theogt]

Its a simple question doctor. Would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs?

If you were a hotdog, and you were starving, would you eat yourself? I know I would. I'd cover myself in relish. I'd be delicious.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So, you don't want to draft a receiver in round 1 because the failure rate is so high, but you don't want to give up the extra first we have, and would rather give up a second where the odds of success drop dramatically.

Hopefully while you're waiting around for Jerry Rice to magically fall into our laps Jerry Jones is proactively pursuing a big-game WR like Roy Williams.

how can you be against dog-fighting, but at the same time be a proponent for big-game hunting? HYPOCRITE!

btw, Fuzzy, since you're into risk-analysis, I hope you don't drive a car, because bikes are safer

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So, you don't want to draft a receiver in round 1 because the failure rate is so high, but you don't want to give up the extra first we have, and would rather give up a second where the odds of success drop dramatically.

Hopefully while you're waiting around for Jerry Rice to magically fall into our laps Jerry Jones is proactively pursuing a big-game WR like Roy Williams.

Ive come off that stance. I think people overrate RW especially considering wht his production has been and his injury history. Im not saying no way we should trade from him but I wouldnt want to give up a first and have to pay him 7 mil a year. That is too steep a pice to pay.

Id rather pay a rookie $1.5 mil and have a better than 50-50 chance that he will uscceed and go hard after a guy like Berrian.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

how can you be against dog-fighting, but at the same time be a proponent for big-game hunting? HYPOCRITE!

btw, Fuzzy, since you're into risk-analysis, I hope you don't drive a car, because bikes are safer

dude give it up, i dont care one way what people do with animals. I wont do it but if you want to hang out with hookers in a dumpster in your backyard with a bottle of draino then more power to you. That is neither here nor there.

statistically that is untrue and its about weighing risk versus benefit. the risk of riding a bike on the highway is much more than driving a car. It also happens to be faster and thus economical.

in a world where roy williams can be gotten for a rookie contract and a single pick then sure. That is not the case he will cost at the very least $7 mil a year annd possibly more which is literally 5 TIMES AS MUCH AS A ROOKIE WOULD MAKE.

You guys hear about paying top dollar for a top CB and all of a sudden you make the very valid argument that we dont want to sink 10% of our cap into 2 players at one position. OTOH, RW who hasnt played like he deserves that kind of money and now its okay.

Im sorry that I dont think that to be okay. If Im going to giveup a first and $7 mil then the guy had better have no questions and unless your a mindless homer the guy has questions. HE HAS UNDERACHIEVED. He has been hurt, he has played uninspired, and quite frankly the stats he put up last year were on par with Patrick Crayton.

I see this and I think to myself this is the type of thing that Daniel Snyder would do. I dont hate RW, I just dont want to give up a kings ransom to get him.

 

[SuspectCorner]

Dallas is on the brink of winning it all NOW - and any WR they drafted this year would prolly require one year of seasoning minimum. If they can land Roy Williams with either number one - pull the trigger.

Add a quick change-of-pace back to to spell Marion in the second or third (J. Charles/K. Smith) and that offense will instantly be crazy-good. They'll need to use the remaining first-rounder on a CB - especially since opponents will almost certainly be forced to air it out while trying to play catchup.

 

[Holloway805]

trade our next year 1st round pick......... pick up a cb with our 1st pick ray rice with 2nd.... pick up the best available with the rest...

You got it backwards--- draft best athlete 1st day and for need 2nd day.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Well here is the thing. If it's really a one, and what teams I've seen mentioned are actually interested (Tampa and such) they can offer a high #1 than we can with our 28. So it's not as simple just offering 28. You have to hope that 28 is a high enough 1 to get him.

We could throw in a 6th or 7th round pick, a can of tuna, and a six pack.

 

[mmillman]

If I am going to give up a first for a WR I want it to be a sure thing. RW is not a sure thing. 1 out of 4 seasons has he put up numbers that merit a 1st and that 1 wasnt last year.

If someone wnats to pay that cost. let them.

who is a sure thing for a first? Williams is young and has shown he can dominate at times. No rookie would give you that.

That being said, I don't see any team giving a first rounder for a WR that will be a free agent next year.

Ideally I would like to see Dallas do this:

There will be a team that wants to jump up to the first round late to grab a guy like Brohm or Flacco. Trade the pick for a first next year swap 2nds and send that high second to Detroit for Williams.

#22 is the best cb or rb available.

 

[Doomsday101]

I would think getting Williams is highly unlikely. If all it will cost is a 1st rd pick to get him I would expect others with higher picks to be able to step up and get him.

 

[THUMPER]

I'd give our 28th overall for him.

We can still get a CB with 22, and we should land a very good RB with our 2nd.

And we're set.

I would be down with that. We would get a very good, fairly young WR who has already proven that he can play in the NFL, which is more than we could have been assured of by using that pick on a WR in the draft.

 

[Stash]

I would think getting Williams is highly unlikely. If all it will cost is a 1st rd pick to get him I would expect others with higher picks to be able to step up and get him.

Factor in Williams having to sign a contract extension with any new team as well.

If he prefers to come to Dallas - and the Cowboys let it be known that they're interested - he could have a huge say in where he is and isn't traded.

 

[Doomsday101]

Factor in Williams having to sign a contract extension with any new team as well.

If he prefers to come to Dallas - and the Cowboys let it be known that they're interested - he could have a huge say in where he is and isn't traded.

I think for Williams like any player he will go where the money is if given the option. He is a young player and I would expect if the Lions made it known they are willing to part with him that many teams will show interest. If Williams was an older player then coming back home I think would play a bigger part but right now he is in his money making years. Don't get me wrong I would love to have him but I would be shocked to get him with the 28th pick as some are suggesting around here.