Let's be honest here about what happened with McCarthy

chuck520

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The facts don't lie despite some fans around here trying to claim otherwise.

The Cowboys rank near the bottom of the league in terms of cash spent on their roster over the last decade. Throw in their cheapness when it comes to coaches.

It's quite clear that Jerry is no longer about putting the best product he possibly can on the field. He's concerned with putting the best product on the field he can within the cheap budget he's created in order to line his own pockets.
it isnt the money its the amount of years on the contract. Its better that he isnt coming back for 4 years, the offense has been bad the past two years to start the year, the penalties are bad and the decision making not good.

Given that the coaching is not the only issue, the front office/GM appears to have no clear direction to building a successful football team.
 

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The Joneses probably wanted to low ball Big Mike from the beginning of the season, this may be a bit of a stretch but:

Did they boycotted the team and Mac to have leverage at the end of the season on contract negotiations?

If so, they are worst snakes oils than we thought, glad it backfired, hope Mac gets a great deal somewhere and succeeds fast.
 

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Jerry , again, waited and got burned. He could have interviewed both Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn last week. But now he has to wait until their seasons are over. So, his foot dragging cost him that window.

What the lack of urgency tells me is that Jerry completely expected MM to return. MM walking away was not expected.
 

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McCarthy didn't earn another 5 years. I could see giving him another year or two but he simply didn't do enough in the playoffs to get another 5 years.
his offense is outdated and the discipline isnt good, That is on McCarthy but the front office has its own issues.
 

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What is it with all the love for Belicheat here? He is 72 years old and soon to be 73. No thanks. No more retreads. I can think of 5-6 great college coaches who are much younger and would be great coaches here. And younger I mean in their 40's.
Maybe you want that but is it what Jerry wants?
 

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his offense is outdated and the discipline isnt good, That is on McCarthy but the front office has its own issues.
You guys are missing the point.

It doesn't matter what you think about McCarthy's offense or how many years you think he deserved. Jerry clearly wanted him back. He also knows there is a market for McCarthy at this point. He also understands what coaches typically get with contracts in terms of years, etc.

He played chicken with a guy he wanted back. He lost. That's all that matters, no how dated or outdated you think McCarthy's offense is. At this point, how good or bad McCarthy was as a coach is meaningless. Jerry wanted him. Jerry played games. Jerry lost him. Those are the important facts.
 

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Jerry's plan was to hope the deadline would add pressure to McCarthy and get him to take a deal on his terms. I think the fact there was so much interest from other teams interested in interviewing McCarthy surprised Jerry. Jerry suddenly lost his leverage and McCarthy, sitting on a pile of money already and knowing he may have other options, waited out Jerry.

This also highlights, yet again, how unfit Jerry is at running this team. First, the decision on McCarthy should have been made weeks ago. And if the decision was that you wanted him back (which seems to be the case), then you get that deal done immediately. Playing chicken with a HC is absurd. The most profitable franchise in sports haggling over years with a coach you want back and then lose when he calls your bluff? Even more absurd. What a disaster.

Now, if the decision was you didn't want him back, feelers should have been sent out immediately to names like Belichick, Vrabel, etc. The worst case scenario is deciding you wanted McCarthy back, play games with him to then lose him at the last second over your stupid attempt to leverage him into a real favorable deal for you and then have some of your better targets already be far along (or hired) by other places.

It's no surprise that's the path the Cowboys chose. Buckle up fans, it's going to be another in a string of disasterous offseasons.
agree
 

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McCarthy didn't earn another 5 years. I could see giving him another year or two but he simply didn't do enough in the playoffs to get another 5 years.
I agree. I'm no fan of Jerry's and he sucks as a GM but I don't know how people can't seem to understand that McCarthy didn't get the job done either. Period.
 

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You guys are missing the point.

It doesn't matter what you think about McCarthy's offense or how many years you think he deserved. Jerry clearly wanted him back. He also knows there is a market for McCarthy at this point. He also understands what coaches typically get with contracts in terms of years, etc.

He played chicken with a guy he wanted back. He lost. That's all that matters, no how dated or outdated you think McCarthy's offense is. At this point, how good or bad McCarthy was as a coach is meaningless. Jerry wanted him. Jerry played games. Jerry lost him. Those are the important facts.
I dont quite buy into him want McCarthy back if he did he would have signed him before. I think he wanted to fire him last year but didnt want to pay him.
 

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Jerry's plan was to hope the deadline would add pressure to McCarthy and get him to take a deal on his terms. I think the fact there was so much interest from other teams interested in interviewing McCarthy surprised Jerry. Jerry suddenly lost his leverage and McCarthy, sitting on a pile of money already and knowing he may have other options, waited out Jerry.

This also highlights, yet again, how unfit Jerry is at running this team. First, the decision on McCarthy should have been made weeks ago. And if the decision was that you wanted him back (which seems to be the case), then you get that deal done immediately. Playing chicken with a HC is absurd. The most profitable franchise in sports haggling over years with a coach you want back and then lose when he calls your bluff? Even more absurd. What a disaster.

Now, if the decision was you didn't want him back, feelers should have been sent out immediately to names like Belichick, Vrabel, etc. The worst case scenario is deciding you wanted McCarthy back, play games with him to then lose him at the last second over your stupid attempt to leverage him into a real favorable deal for you and then have some of your better targets already be far along (or hired) by other places.

It's no surprise that's the path the Cowboys chose. Buckle up fans, it's going to be another in a string of disasterous offseasons.
If you actually told someone who doesn't follow sport this I doubt they would believe it. But this is exactly what happened.
 

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You guys are missing the point.

It doesn't matter what you think about McCarthy's offense or how many years you think he deserved. Jerry clearly wanted him back. He also knows there is a market for McCarthy at this point. He also understands what coaches typically get with contracts in terms of years, etc.

He played chicken with a guy he wanted back. He lost. That's all that matters, no how dated or outdated you think McCarthy's offense is. At this point, how good or bad McCarthy was as a coach is meaningless. Jerry wanted him. Jerry played games. Jerry lost him. Those are the important facts.
Other important facts....MM teams are soft, undisciplined and can't beat quality opponents. Facts
 

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Big Mike made Jerry MAN-CRY in front of millions in that playoff disaster.

Jerry was never going to hire him for another run.

It was all a big game.

Blocked Chicago from talking to Mike.

#Revenge
 

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What is it with all the love for Belicheat here? He is 72 years old and soon to be 73. No thanks. No more retreads. I can think of 5-6 great college coaches who are much younger and would be great coaches here. And younger I mean in their 40's.
No love just replying that he’s available if Jerry wants to pay
 

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This was true until the Dak and CD contracts. Cowboys are apparently the #1 cash spending team after those massive contracts.
Per Spotrac, the Cowboys were 14th in cash spent this year (2024) and that includes Lamb's and Dak's deal. They actually were 11th in 2023 but 28th in 2022.
 

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I dont quite buy into him want McCarthy back if he did he would have signed him before. I think he wanted to fire him last year but didnt want to pay him.
Then why deny the request to let the Bears interview him during the negotiation period?

There's the flaw in your logic. If he didn't want him back, there is no reason to not let him interview with the Bears.
 

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The facts don't lie despite some fans around here trying to claim otherwise.

The Cowboys rank near the bottom of the league in terms of cash spent on their roster over the last decade. Throw in their cheapness when it comes to coaches.

It's quite clear that Jerry is no longer about putting the best product he possibly can on the field. He's concerned with putting the best product on the field he can within the cheap budget he's created in order to line his own pockets.
This WAS true before the Dak and CD contracts. But even so, the difference between the top spenders and the botton is only a few % points. The CBA requires teams to spend 95% of the cap annually.
 

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Jerry's plan was to hope the deadline would add pressure to McCarthy and get him to take a deal on his terms. I think the fact there was so much interest from other teams interested in interviewing McCarthy surprised Jerry. Jerry suddenly lost his leverage and McCarthy, sitting on a pile of money already and knowing he may have other options, waited out Jerry.

This also highlights, yet again, how unfit Jerry is at running this team. First, the decision on McCarthy should have been made weeks ago. And if the decision was that you wanted him back (which seems to be the case), then you get that deal done immediately. Playing chicken with a HC is absurd. The most profitable franchise in sports haggling over years with a coach you want back and then lose when he calls your bluff? Even more absurd. What a disaster.

Now, if the decision was you didn't want him back, feelers should have been sent out immediately to names like Belichick, Vrabel, etc. The worst case scenario is deciding you wanted McCarthy back, play games with him to then lose him at the last second over your stupid attempt to leverage him into a real favorable deal for you and then have some of your better targets already be far along (or hired) by other places.

It's no surprise that's the path the Cowboys chose. Buckle up fans, it's going to be another in a string of disasterous offseasons.
Jerry screwed him and then low balled him. McCarthy may win this battle, especially if the Pittsburgh job comes open.
 

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Everybody got paid more than Mike McCarthy. He was a laughing stock when it came to the pay scale.
 
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