Let's be honest here about what happened with McCarthy

john van brocklin

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Jerry's plan was to hope the deadline would add pressure to McCarthy and get him to take a deal on his terms. I think the fact there was so much interest from other teams interested in interviewing McCarthy surprised Jerry. Jerry suddenly lost his leverage and McCarthy, sitting on a pile of money already and knowing he may have other options, waited out Jerry.

This also highlights, yet again, how unfit Jerry is at running this team. First, the decision on McCarthy should have been made weeks ago. And if the decision was that you wanted him back (which seems to be the case), then you get that deal done immediately. Playing chicken with a HC is absurd. The most profitable franchise in sports haggling over years with a coach you want back and then lose when he calls your bluff? Even more absurd. What a disaster.

Now, if the decision was you didn't want him back, feelers should have been sent out immediately to names like Belichick, Vrabel, etc. The worst case scenario is deciding you wanted McCarthy back, play games with him to then lose him at the last second over your stupid attempt to leverage him into a real favorable deal for you and then have some of your better targets already be far along (or hired) by other places.

It's no surprise that's the path the Cowboys chose. Buckle up fans, it's going to be another in a string of disasterous offseasons.
Why is this a surprise to anyone ?
We have a couple of amatuer owners trying to do the job that takes a professional.
Its no wonder we have not sniffed a NFCCG in 29 years.... and counting.
We are doomed until this dynamic changes...
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There are two possibilities and none of us know which is true. Either Jerry wanted to force changes on offense or he wanted a short term contract.

I guess it could be both.

All I know is if he truly believes in McCarthy like he says he does then it should have gotten done. He wanted to stay here.
 

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The source is Jerry Jones? Hahaha.

I'll trust places like Spotrac and Over the Cap over Jerry Jones, who has a vested interest in lying about how much cash they spent.
Jerry would lie on the The Fan? The funny thing is that acknowledged the being cheap criticism. I think it bothers him.
 

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Jerry would lie on the The Fan? The funny thing is that acknowledged the being cheap criticism. I think it bothers him.
Uh yeah. I mean he's said false things before on the Fan.

Follow the link. The Cowboys cash spent in 2024 includes the $86MM to Dak and $39MM to CD. The total ranks them 14th.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cash/_/year/2024

The 2nd link is a list of all teams cash spending in 2024 per Spotrac:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cash/_/year/2024/sort/cash_total

Jerry either doesn't care or is painfully unaware that fans are now able to get way more information about teams than he realizes.
 

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Too cheap to pay a coach they "want". Too cheap to fire coaches.Too cheap to pay outside free agents.

Great strategy they got going, but they still get millions from fans each year, why change?
i've said this on many threads you want change from the Jones... you need to collectively get the Cowboys Fans to Boycott The team for 1st 5 home games... NO one goes to the game no merch bought just watch on tv he will loose Millions and get pissed and freak out... crap i'd just boycott the whole season if i lived in Dallas area. dont go to the games, sell you tickets to the opposing teams fans and dont buy any merchandise. just watch on tv. see how cheap he is after 1 season of that happening he will loose his mind & the stress of it will force him to do something
 

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There are two possibilities and none of us know which is true. Either Jerry wanted to force changes on offense or he wanted a short term contract.

I guess it could be both.

All I know is if he truly believes in McCarthy like he says he does then it should have gotten done. He wanted to stay here.
In regard to cash spend, I see some of the best teams in the league at the bottom while Cleveland and Miami are #2 and #4. Maybe there isn't a correlation between cash spend and winning.
 

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Then why deny the request to let the Bears interview him during the negotiation period?

There's the flaw in your logic. If he didn't want him back, there is no reason to not let him interview with the Bears.
I think they wanted him back but only for 3 years, 6 years too much of a committment and they didnt want to get stuck with him or paying him/firing him
 

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You guys are missing the point.

It doesn't matter what you think about McCarthy's offense or how many years you think he deserved. Jerry clearly wanted him back. He also knows there is a market for McCarthy at this point. He also understands what coaches typically get with contracts in terms of years, etc.

He played chicken with a guy he wanted back. He lost. That's all that matters, no how dated or outdated you think McCarthy's offense is. At this point, how good or bad McCarthy was as a coach is meaningless. Jerry wanted him. Jerry played games. Jerry lost him. Those are the important facts.
Jerry wanted him back on his terms. If not on his terms then Jerry was quite happy to say Good Bye Mikey Boy!
 

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Yep, I think Jerry thought this was a Jason Garret situation.
I dont believe that. There was a blurb from month ago that Jerry had concern about bringing McCarthy back and how the fans could react.

I think he would have brought him back for a shorter contract in case he needed to make a coaching but:
1) Jerry doesnt want to pay a HC and not coach
2) Jerry doesnt want to stick with McCarthy for 10 years because of Garrett

I know it doesnt make sense because you hire a HC if doesnt work out you eat the money and hire another HC but this is me trying to get into Jerry's mind
 

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it isnt the money its the amount of years on the contract.
Which is a money issue. These contracts are guaranteed. You can still fire the guy. You just have to be willing to eat the cost, which does not even come from the salary cap. Jerry isn't will to take the chance he might have to eat that cost.
 

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I agree. I'm no fan of Jerry's and he sucks as a GM but I don't know how people can't seem to understand that McCarthy didn't get the job done either. Period.
You can't get the job done when the GM spends $60 million bucks on a $30 million dollar quarterback, ignores free agency, and is in general a bumbling clown. When Jerry goes shopping for the groceries, he gets ice cream and potato chips instead of meat and potatoes.
 

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I don't believe Jerry ever wanted Mike back in the first place. He just wanted to make it look like Mike left and he didn't fire him. Honestly, that's all it is.
These guys weren't even talking about the time when Dak got injured, the team was looking horrible.
Yep, this was a foregone conclusion last January. Just let him finish out the last year of his contract and with little to no help in FA activity.

Many of us said last spring this was going to be a throw away season with MM just completing his contract. JJ is so predictable.
 

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Jerry and his moron son are simply the worst negotiators around. Kudos to Mike for not playing their stupid game.

And I completely agree with the OP, save one thing: This situation should have been solved LAST offseason, before we went into the year with a lame duck coaching staff. This entire season was set up to fail based on that decision alone.
This.
Exactly this.
He should have been fired after GB.

Everything else is just useless Jerry trying to run it back drama.
 

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Which is a money issue. These contracts are guaranteed. You can still fire the guy. You just have to be willing to eat the cost, which does not even come from the salary cap. Jerry isn't will to take the chance he might have to eat that cost.
Its money in that he doesnt want to fire him and pay him not paying him the normal amount
if you do the short term contract then if it doesnt work you ride it out, 2 or 3 years

I know, I agree that it doesnt make sense, but its a sticking point with him in terms of the money
This.
Exactly this.
He should have been fired after GB.

Everything else is just useless Jerry trying to run it back drama.
Thats what Mike Fisher has been saying all year, "blow it up" the coach is part of the plan but Jerry didnt want to fire him and pay him so yes the 2024 season is a complete throwaway intentionally
 

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This franchise is lost. I've never felt like this about my beloved Cowboys. Its simply a disaster at this point.
 

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Jerry's plan was to hope the deadline would add pressure to McCarthy and get him to take a deal on his terms. I think the fact there was so much interest from other teams interested in interviewing McCarthy surprised Jerry. Jerry suddenly lost his leverage and McCarthy, sitting on a pile of money already and knowing he may have other options, waited out Jerry.

This also highlights, yet again, how unfit Jerry is at running this team. First, the decision on McCarthy should have been made weeks ago. And if the decision was that you wanted him back (which seems to be the case), then you get that deal done immediately. Playing chicken with a HC is absurd. The most profitable franchise in sports haggling over years with a coach you want back and then lose when he calls your bluff? Even more absurd. What a disaster.

Now, if the decision was you didn't want him back, feelers should have been sent out immediately to names like Belichick, Vrabel, etc. The worst case scenario is deciding you wanted McCarthy back, play games with him to then lose him at the last second over your stupid attempt to leverage him into a real favorable deal for you and then have some of your better targets already be far along (or hired) by other places.

It's no surprise that's the path the Cowboys chose. Buckle up fans, it's going to be another in a string of disasterous offseasons.
Nobody is hiring McCarthy as head coach this cycle. Maybe not ever.
 
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