Let's face it - with 1 injury to Roy our WR position

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ThreeSportStar80;2807437 said:
Miles Austin hasn't had the ball thrown to him enough to compare him to Brandon Marshall, that's a week argument bro.

He can't stay healthy long enough toget on the field. Hell he's already hurt again.
 

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hendog;2807438 said:
It means more double teams on Witten. More 8 man fronts against the run. More time Romo has to stand in the pocket to wait for these young guys to get seperation.

I'm not suggesting we trade for Boldin. The Pats had Randy Moss and Welker but did that stop from bringing in Joey Galloway and Greg Lewis and drafting Brandon Tate. Their just hedging their bets. Something I wouldn't mind doing.


I just think it is time to put the young guys out there and see what we have.

If by week 6 it's clear we need help then maybe, but there is no reason to stifle the guys we got by bringing in a vet, and certainly you don't bring in a vet salary to sit on the pine, ESPECIALLY since we need to get Ware tied down, and it may take all the cap room we have to give.

I stand pat with these cards we have. And more doubles on witten means Bennett can burn some people, or that our 3 headed running attack can shove it down their throats.

We are fine.
 

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I totally respect that. But this post is dead on and I don't know how it hasn't received any positive responses up until now. It speaks of the reality at this position on our team and yeah you can say various things like:

"Well, almost all the other teams in the league could say the same thing if their #1 WR went down.

- We're the Dallas Cowboys and we're not just any other team. Besides, take the Giants who won the SB prior to last year and were so 1 dimensional on offense after Plax wasn't playing they just stopped winning.

"Well, I feel safer having RW go down with TR throwing to to PC and MA than if T.O and RW were here and TR injured.

- Yeah but we're not talking about the QB and we can't help if TR gets injured but can help getting some reliable WR depth.

" Well, you underestimate Crayton IMO".

- So you'd be comfortable with PC or MA being our #1 WR and still believe we could win a SB? Not saying RW is the key to the SB, a whole team effort will be. But that effort consists of a threat at ever facet of every position on both sides of the ball and stable ST's. We would not have a respected, proven reliable threat if RW goes down and we don't know if we even have one with him healthy, eventhough I like his skills.

" Well, our 2 TE's and RB's can catch balls and I'm not at all worried because of that".

- OK, so who stretches the field somewhat vertically? The TE's are mostly catching and that means they aren't blocking much and that means we aren't running much at all again. Not that we would be able to with 8 man fronts stacked against us since we'd have nothing vertically to force them otherwise.

"well, Miles Austin is going to have a break out year".

- I so HOPE so. I rather have some know than a lot of HOPE. I got more Hope than some know.

Anyways, nice post by the OP and it's something I have been sweating all off season myself for the various reasons. It's good to be positive but realistic gets more results. I appreciate the realistic questions the OP expressed.


Nice try at being a realist ,but its like this for every team thanks to free agency you cant stock pile every position ....thats reality
our back up WRs are jut as good as most teams......and guess what

if Flozell goes down we are in trouble

if Ken Hamlin goes down we are in trouble

if Ware goes down we are in trouble

if TNew goes down we are in trouble

if Andre goes down we are in trouble

if Mcbriar goes down we are in trouble

if Bigg goes down we are in trouble

if Brady James goes down we are in trouble

if Jenkins goes down we are in trouble

if Scandrick goes down we are in trouble

welcome to the NFL.....:rolleyes:
 

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hendog;2807431 said:
Nobody said that. Getting some reliable vet depth in here is something our team can control. BTW - which one of those 2 in your avatar are you?

He's the living mascot. Keep cheering on Rowdy, you're good vibes bro!
 

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it's ridiculous that so many of you don't know who crazy ray is, or was.

It's sad too. even disrespectful.
 

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Wait, it thought the problem was RW wasn't good enough to be a #1 WR and that he wasn't on the same page with Romo according to a report on recent OTAs.

Now we're also sunk if he gets injured? We should have just kept TO.
 

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silverbear;2807433 said:
You appear to have a severe case of Dan Snyder Syndrome, which is characterized by the unshakable belief that veterans, particularly name veterans, are the solution to any team's problems...

Not the OP's legal rep or anything, but what high end name vet did he mention to protrude this Dan Snyder syndrome? My perception is that his post expresses that reliable veteran depth would add value to the WR corps in case our #1 goes down. As opposed to WR's who have injury history, have never started, other than PC, and are declared potential players as opposed to proven commodities.

Not saying our WR's can't be capable myself, but I won't know either way until the end of this season because there's ver little proven thus far. I think some solid depth at the position is a good idea, especially if we continue to have half the corps on the sideline during practice.
 

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Four;2807452 said:
it's ridiculous that so many of you don't know who crazy ray is, or was.

It's sad too. even disrespectful.

Crazy Ray was and always will be the bomb. RIP CR.
 

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dadymat;2807447 said:
Nice try at being a realist ,but its like this for every team thanks to free agency you cant stock pile every position ....thats reality
our back up WRs are jut as good as most teams......and guess what

if Flozell goes down we are in trouble

if Ken Hamlin goes down we are in trouble

if Ware goes down we are in trouble

if TNew goes down we are in trouble

if Andre goes down we are in trouble

if Mcbriar goes down we are in trouble

if Bigg goes down we are in trouble

if Brady James goes down we are in trouble

if Jenkins goes down we are in trouble

if Scandrick goes down we are in trouble

welcome to the NFL.....:rolleyes:

Those injuries would pose serious challenges for this team, correct. You missed 2 of the most important 3 though. Romo and Witten. Ware is on your list but he's 2nd most important to TR. Kitna and MB aren't replacing even a fraction of those 2. Don't even need to get into why I trust.

So would RW going down. How is that not reality? I also said getting depth is something we can control. It's not fair to say that's at any position other than QB? Not saying depth is acquired on any or every team but how is that not realistic? You have to chalk that up to effort, opportunity, cap space and roster spots.

All of that is called managing a pro football roster. There's actually guys who get paid in this league to do that. What do ya know. Looking for a loop hole or what? Not sure where the lack of reality you're trying to percieve lies within my post.
 

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The lack of reality he's portraying is that 1. You think anybody or everybody who is currently an unemployed WR is better than everyone on our roster other than Roy Wi11iams. 2. Injuries happen and losing a starter affects every team at any given position.

The thought of us controlling our depth is laughable at this point in the year when we're just starting to get to our first mini-camp. The reports of what have been seen so far hardly constitute a sample of what is happening on the team. Miles and PC might be on a new level.

There's a reason Jerry's big cut last offseason is still unemployed. There might be a reason as well why the vet list of unemployed guys are there too. That's part of managing a pro roster, knowing which guys are done despite how many or how few seasons they've played.
 

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We are already seeing Austin miss time because of injury.

This team is flying without a net and all the talk about, if so-n-so went down team X would be screwed ignores the fact that our passing attack is pedestrian at best when everyone is healthy.

Austin is the homer's fav, but if this kid fails due to health or skill, we may be in deep doo.
 

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hendog;2807438 said:
It means more double teams on Witten. More 8 man fronts against the run. More time Romo has to stand in the pocket to wait for these young guys to get seperation.

I'm not suggesting we trade for Boldin. The Pats had Randy Moss and Welker but did that stop from bringing in Joey Galloway and Greg Lewis and drafting Brandon Tate. Their just hedging their bets. Something I wouldn't mind doing.

First time I have read this guy's posts.

Frankly, he should have his own sports column.

If you don't get why this team is anemic at WR, then maybe you should ask an adult.

Hendog gets it.
 

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TwoDeep3;2807468 said:
We are already seeing Austin miss time because of injury.

This team is flying without a net and all the talk about, if so-n-so went down team X would be screwed ignores the fact that our passing attack is pedestrian at best when everyone is healthy.

Austin is the homer's fav, but if this kid fails due to health of skill, we may be in deep doo.


passing attack wasn't pedestrian year before last, how soon you people forget how we lit it up only one season ago.

We had a down year, it doesn't mean we are dooomed. Why do you guys make such huge leaps?
 

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passing attack wasn't pedestrian year before last, how soon you people forget how we lit it up only one season ago.

We had a down year, it doesn't mean we are dooomed. Why do you guys make such huge leaps?

Jumping to conclusions is the only exercise they can find time for from behind a keyboard?
 

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If Roy gets injured just move Crayton and Miles out on the wings and have Felix be the slot or come out of the backfield. Not to mention there's still Bennett and Witten.
 

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SaltwaterServr;2807467 said:
The lack of reality he's portraying is that 1. You think anybody or everybody who is currently an unemployed WR is better than everyone on our roster other than Roy Wi11iams. 2. Injuries happen and losing a starter affects every team at any given position.

The thought of us controlling our depth is laughable at this point in the year when we're just starting to get to our first mini-camp. The reports of what have been seen so far hardly constitute a sample of what is happening on the team. Miles and PC might be on a new level.

There's a reason Jerry's big cut last offseason is still unemployed. There might be a reason as well why the vet list of unemployed guys are there too. That's part of managing a pro roster, knowing which guys are done despite how many or how few seasons they've played.

Good points in this post especially about controlling the depth at this time of year. Whats not as laughable is that Austin, Hurd and Stanback are missing practices regardless of them being OTA's or not.

That's half our corps right now. RW, PC and the rookie, who got blown up by Pat Walkins during what's not supposed to be contact OTA's, seem to be the only warm bodies at WR practicing.

Don't know about everyone else, but that level of practice depth is not laughable to me. A hungry unemployed WR to takes some reps wouldn't break my heart.
 

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Four;2807475 said:
passing attack wasn't pedestrian year before last, how soon you people forget how we lit it up only one season ago.

We had a down year, it doesn't mean we are dooomed. Why do you guys make such huge leaps?

How can you suggest this team is the same team? That is a leap.

We are trotting out a completely new passing attack with just a few of the same players, and not one guy who has sustained multiple 1000-yard seasons in his carer.

We either have crayton as the #2 and expect him to suddenly become a threat with the footspeed of a one-legged man.

Or we rely on Austin who has 18-catches and faded last December more than a Madras shirt.

Now the answer that usually comes back is Witten is number two and then the stats follow.

Witten is not a WR and the team needs a second threat that stretches the field. Because other that Felix, this offense doesn't have great team speed.
 

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hendog;2807435 said:
Did I say a name vet. No.

You said the answer to our WR situation was bringing in a veteran receiver... I assume you mean a receiver who has been productive in the league, otherwise where's the advantage??

And as I noted, the notion that the answer to a problem is to bring in a "name" veteran is pure Danny Boy... if the scouts think that Crayton, Austin and Hurd are legitimate receiving threats, then they should throw them out there opposite Roy...

In fact, it seems to me that this coaching staff's biggest problem is their reluctance to throw the kids out there and see what they've got...
 

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hendog;2807438 said:
It means more double teams on Witten. More 8 man fronts against the run.

Which will make it easier for Austin to burn them...

I'm not suggesting we trade for Boldin. The Pats had Randy Moss and Welker but did that stop from bringing in Joey Galloway and Greg Lewis and drafting Brandon Tate. Their just hedging their bets. Something I wouldn't mind doing.

You'd have to pay a quality veteran; are you willing to risk losing Ware so that you can be more comfortable with the WR corps??

This ain't Madden... there's only so much money to go around... which means that ALL teams go long in one position only by going short at another...
 
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