Let's get this Jerry thing right out in the open

SuperCows5Xs;1415260 said:
Well if you were as smart as what you think you are.:laugh2: Then you'd know it doesn't take BRILLIANCE to see that Jimmy did it all and Jerry didn't do jack and NEVER has,

You've mistaken BRILLIANCE for DELUSION...

Or can you offer tangible evidence that Jerry the GM had NOTHING to do with the Walker trade, or the Haley signing??

Knowing the man's colossal ego, I find it highly likely that he was deeply involved in both decisions, in his role as GM...

Ultimately, Jerry WAS the GM of the Dallas Cowboys when Jimmy Johnson was here... he was the GM who HIRED Jimmy... so if he was able to create a relationship between himself and Jimmy that worked, that's a tribute to how GOOD a GM he was back then...

Here endeth the lesson...
 
silverbear;1415245 said:
But what a BRILLIANT, incisive rebuttal you put up... I'm absolutely stunned by the savage force of your "logic"-- Jimmy did it all, Jerry didn't do jack, Jerry has NEVER done jack...


Well if you were as smart as what you think you are.:laugh2: Then you'd know it doesn't take BRILLIANCE to see that Jimmy did it all and Jerry didn't do jack and NEVER has, and if history repeats itself he may never. So maybe you need to switch from Jerry's class to the Logic 101.
 
bbgun;1415264 said:
Posts dripping in condescension and questioning the intelligence of others doesn't help.

Didn't say I was turning into Miss Manners, merely that I'm working at following the board's rules...

If hanging out in here means I have to treat people for whom I have little to no respect with respect, then I reckon I'm on the wrong board... LOL...

IOW, if you don't want me questioning your intelligence, try acting as if you actually have some... this is a generic comment, not one aimed personally...
 
STSINAZ;1414948 said:
you guys keep riding on the jerrah jones bus....see where it takes you...he will destroy this franchise...in say...about 5 years...let's hope by then we have won a championship!

well then, why don't you just jump off now before you sink with it. That way we all can remain happy with being the fools that we all are. :rolleyes:
 
SuperCows5Xs;1415269 said:
Well if you were as smart as what you think you are.:laugh2: Then you'd know it doesn't take BRILLIANCE to see that Jimmy did it all and Jerry didn't do jack and NEVER has, and if history repeats itself he may never. So maybe you need to switch from Jerry's class to the Logic 101.

Gee, this sounds EXACTLY like post 78 in this thread...

Unfortunately, it didn't get any better in the rerun... LOL...
 
This thread is turning into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.:banghead:
 
silverbear;1415263 said:
OK, a reasonable response...

Now, do you have any evidence that Jerry is NOT giving Wade full authority?? I haven't seen any evidence one way or the other as to how the relationship between the two is going to work out... neither have you, but you're curiously ready, even eager, to believe the worst...

It's almost as if Jerry didn't change his ways radically when he hired the Tuna... you've had evidence that he's trying to change, but you refuse to believe the evidence provided by your own eyes...

No evidence, but you don't have any either to the contrary, it's all about what you believe, you offer your OPINIONS the same way I do, I can reasonably come to the conclusion that Jimmy was the mastermind behind the Walker and Haley trades because there have been no repeats of it by Jerry himself, only to the contrary, disasterous trades like Galloway and even more disasterous drafts by Jerry. Things were happening a certain way, someone was removed then things slowly began to happen the opposite way. Things happening means results.
 
STSINAZ;1414501 said:
Let's find out who knows football and who is a homer! BleuStar-homer

The hate for jones as a GM goes like this....for 10 years he put our team in such a disarray, it took parcells 4 years just to get us out of it! and we are still not there! what did jones do? he only overpaid for one of the biggest busts in recent history...he overpaid for a one year wonder in gurode...he overpaid for brad johnson...who is finished...all jerry does is overpay...he overpaid for rivera,,he was done...he overpaid for henry in my opinion. He hasnt done much but be injured. He overpaid for Roy Williams and now we couldnt get rid of him if we tried! He brought in a player that ran out Parcells! The question is what has he done that has been smart in the last 10 years....and dont get me started on the drafts the last 10 years before parcells got here. Dont get me started on the Galloway trade! Come on man I cant even believe you just made that statement bleustar!?????????????? Do you know anything about football?

So this is what I will say about Jerry. The two things he does consistently.

He latches onto a player, or a theory about a player and nothing gets in his way to stop him from getting him. I.E. Quincy Carter, Tony Dixon. Carver, Ekuban....should I stop now?

He also overpays for mediocre players. Those are the two things he does consistently. If that wins a championship then so be it! LOL....it never will. Bleu Star you need to take out what Bill has done the past 4 years and then look at our team. Dont look at what BP did in talent acquistions and mix it in with the stupid mistakes Jerry has made and say that Jerry is a God.....what a joke...I mean look at all the mistakes Jerry made the past 4 years....Wiley, Price, Anthony Thomas, TO...the list goes on. The thing about it is this. Almost everything that Jerry does individually from a GM standpoint with no help he screws up. You need to face that. He wants to know what to do but he just doesnt and that's the truth. I wish it wasnt so but it is. The only thing he has done right in the past 4 years is hire Parcells and semi-get out of the way.
He also hired Jeff Ireland...:)
 
The pro- and anti-Jerry forces are dug in, so all of this is pointless. Then again, it's March, so something has to fill the void.
 
silverbear;1415230 said:
Anticipate getting an infraction for that ever-so-juvenile insult... keep it up, and you'll rack up enough infractions that we won't have to hear from you for a while...



I'm sure nothing will happen to me if your still stinkin' up this joint.
 
Jerry Jones orchestrated the Walker deal business wise ...... only an idiot would think that a college coach who had never made a big money deal in his life could orchestrate the biggest (at that time) deal in NFL history .... Jerry Jones was used to million dollar deals . .... Jimmy aloud him to know ahead of time what good players was coming out of college. ......

Together they were unstoppable .... apart they have been good to average.
 
zrinkill;1415304 said:
Jerry Jones orchestrated the Walker deal ...... only an idiot would think that a college coach who had never made a big money deal in his life could orchestrate the biggest (at that time) deal in NFL history .....

Jerry Jones was used to million dollar deals.
You have no idea who orchestrated that walker deal....the bottom line is this...Jerry with Jimmy was good...but Jerry without him tanked...until BP came along...what does tell you? its simple...Jerry does not know what he is doing...how hard is that? take of the glasses and you will see!
 
I will keep this one short and sweet.... Jerry and his meddling HAS COST US(more than once). Period.
 
Jimmy come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Jimmy come back, you can blame it all on me
I was wrong, and I just can't win without you
 
STSINAZ;1415318 said:
the bottom line is this...Jerry with Jimmy was good...but Jerry without him tanked...until BP came along...what does tell you? its simple...Jerry does not know what he is doing...how hard is that? take of the glasses and you will see!

And what did Jimmy do without Jerry? I think you need to "take off the glasses" ...
 
STSINAZ;1415318 said:
You have no idea who orchestrated that walker deal

Mike Lynn himself has said that Jerry convinced him that he was ripping the cowboys off .... thats what kinda salesman Jerry is.
 
STSINAZ;1415318 said:
You have no idea who orchestrated that walker deal....the bottom line is this...Jerry with Jimmy was good...but Jerry without him tanked...until BP came along...what does tell you? its simple...Jerry does not know what he is doing...how hard is that? take of the glasses and you will see!

All that it shows is jerry needs a strong coach that knows how to evaluate talent and tell him what pick to use on them. You make it sound like Jerry has no scouts and uses a dart board to figure who to draft. Going by your logic, you are a horrible forum member that spouts opinion as fact and have nothing tangible to reinforce your opinion on why people should believe your opinion to be better than theirs.
 
zrinkill;1415325 said:
And what did Jimmy do without Jerry? I think you need to "take off the glasses" ...


He won a national title at DA U, without Jerry.:lmao: Is that what you were lookin' for. SO HE DID WIN IN MIAMI. HA! HA! HA!
 
jrumann59;1415327 said:
All that it shows is jerry needs a strong coach that knows how to evaluate talent and tell him what pick to use on them. You make it sound like Jerry has no scouts and uses a dart board to figure who to draft. Going by your logic, you are a horrible forum member that spouts opinion as fact and have nothing tangible to reinforce your opinion on why people should believe your opinion to be better than theirs.

I think the last 11 years of pretty much suckage by our standards is pretty much factual. After throwing in all the nook and cranny arguements, Jerry's still the head honcho in this post Jimmy era and it has shown, ever so painfully.
 
That's right: Jimmy can't win without Jerry and vice versa, so we're screwed. Have a nice life.
 
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