Lets go Get Brandon Marshall!!!

[The Quest for Six]

wide receiver is the most overrated position in the nfl.

you're absolutely correct!!!

 

[Chocolate Lab]

For a millisecond this thread surprised me, and then I saw who started it.

 

[Four]

I bet you don't know what you are talking about. Sig bet says Roy Will out produces Bmarsh in 2 of the following 3. Receptions, Tds, and Yards.

wait, I think roy is better than brandon, and he isn't a prat falling through TVs and gashing his arm in the off-season.

Did you think I liked marshall?

I gotta work on my delivery, people are misunderstanding the crap out of me lately.

 

[Alexander]

Salary cap ramifications aside, you don't think Bowlen would take a call from Jerry Jones re: a WR swap straight-up if Jerry had any inclination to make it?

Bowlen is doing the same thing Jones did after the Irvin days. He's looking to clean up the team's image. Getting rid of Cutler was due in part to that. He had alcohol issues and don't think that didn't factor in. Of course, he'd take a look at Williams. It would be a case of looking to get the best deal he could, not necessarily because he thought Williams is more talented. I don't think there is a GM in this league that would pick Williams over Marshall if there were no factors like character clouding the issue.

It is irrelevant anyways. Jones chased Williams for years and there is no way he'd trade him. I also don't think he's interested in getting another high priced WR, nor one with character concerns. A lot of the moves he's done from releasing Owens to the draft were to make way for younger talent and also to control costs.

I'll go out on a limb, way out on a limb, and say that Myles Austin is a bigger impact player in two years than Brandon Marshall will be. And not necessarily because Myles Austin is going to be all that great a player.

It is the same catch-22 you have with any "troubled" player.

What I find a little interesting is that it is widely assumed that Marshall is a "thug" and a lot of it is based on an Outside The Lines show that is built on dubious facts at best. It is not widely known that the girlfriend that Marshall supposedly battered is a gold-digger and that sworn testimony states that she said he never touched her.

 

[Idgit]

Bowlen is doing the same thing Jones did after the Irvin days. He's looking to clean up the team's image. Getting rid of Cutler was due in part to that. He had alcohol issues and don't think that didn't factor in. Of course, he'd take a look at Williams. It would be a case of looking to get the best deal he could, not necessarily because he thought Williams is more talented. I don't think there is a GM in this league that would pick Williams over Marshall if there were no factors like character clouding the issue.

It is irrelevant anyways. Jones chased Williams for years and there is no way he'd trade him. I also don't think he's interested in getting another high priced WR, nor one with character concerns. A lot of the moves he's done from releasing Owens to the draft were to make way for younger talent and also to control costs.

It is the same catch-22 you have with any "troubled" player.

What I find a little interesting is that it is widely assumed that Marshall is a "thug" and a lot of it is based on an Outside The Lines show that is built on dubious facts at best. It is not widely known that the girlfriend that Marshall supposedly battered is a gold-digger and that sworn testimony states that she said he never touched her.

Yeah, it was pretty clear to me that she was a gold-digger just from the interview. Though she wasn't the only women he supposedly went after, and that 911 call involved a cabby and wasn't faked.

There was also the incident with the hand lacerations that involved drinking, and Cutler's and Shanahan's on-the-record quotes before last season that it's always something with Brandon and that he's close to blowing it one day.

Just like with TO in his prime, I love the way the guy plays on the field. I just think he's going to self-destruct and go the way of any number of talented and troubled players who implode on the brink of becoming elite.

 

[jamesdojr]

Would love Brandon Marshall here. T.O. separated the team. He created an us vs them atmosphere. I'm an HR Director and I know exactly what this does to a team / company / department / organization. It destroys it.

Yes, Brandon gets in trouble from time to time but that doesn't necesarily equate to destroying chemistry. Irvin got in trouble a lot but was one of the stronholds for maintaining team chemistry. there's a big difference between T.O. and Irvin.

 

[GoCowboysGo]

Would love Brandon Marshall here. T.O. separated the team. He created an us vs them atmosphere. I'm an HR Director and I know exactly what this does to a team / company / department / organization. It destroys it.

Yes, Brandon gets in trouble from time to time but that doesn't necesarily equate to destroying chemistry. Irvin got in trouble a lot but was one of the stronholds for maintaining team chemistry. there's a big difference between T.O. and Irvin.

Sorry! But BM has beat up his girl friend(s) a whole bunch of times! Including the girl he went to HS with, I mean he's known her a long time and still he beat the crap out of her on numerous occasions. Doesn't that mean anything to anyone? He's standing trial later this summer! I just don't get it. How can people still say they want this guy knowing he beats on women?

Not to pick on just the quoted person here, which I have never done until this post. Sorry, I'm just shocked people would want a player who beats on women.

Here's the link about his trial this August:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4238587

 

[Mash]

Another poster made the best analogy I've heard about TO when they said he's like Allen Iverson.

Yeah, Iverson dropped 30 a game, but he also went 8-25 far too often and hurt his team in the process of getting his numbers.

TO may produce on the field, but the amount of times we forced the ball to him at the expense of not getting others involved hurt the team.

There is a little difference in that.....Iverson choose to shoot that much to get his numbers....he had the ball and controlled what he did with it....

TO just ran his mouth.........Romo and Garrett should be blamed more if....they decided to FORCE the ball to Owens......because at the end of the day....Most WR's...RB's....all want the ball more.....but its the OC and the player (QB)who touches the ball at every snap that decides where its going.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Lets go Get Brandon Marshall!!!

I'd love to get TO back also.

I suppose you want back players like Tank, Pacman, Ellis, Henry, Roy31......

 

[Vinnie2u]

Hell to the Naw....

 

[jamesdojr]

"The pending case will be subject to review when appropriate. The notification he received from our office [Tuesday] applied only to the March 1 incident of this year," Aiello said.
In that case, Marshall and his new fiance, Michi Leshase Nogami-Campbell, got into a fight in Atlanta on March 1. Charges of disturbing the peace were dropped the next day when Marshall and Nogami-Campbell refused to testify against each other.

Do you realize that your significant other could run his/her head into a wall, call the police, say you assulted her, and you go to jail AND stand in front of a judge? It's that easy.

What's reported in the media is not always the facts. So saying he, "beats women" is ridiculous.
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Sorry! But BM has beat up his girl friend(s) a whole bunch of times! Including the girl he went to HS with, I mean he's known her a long time and still he beat the crap out of her on numerous occasions. Doesn't that mean anything to anyone? He's standing trial later this summer! I just don't get it. How can people still say they want this guy knowing he beats on women?

Not to pick on just the quoted person here, which I have never done until this post. Sorry, I'm just shocked people would want a player who beats on women.

Here's the link about his trial this August:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4238587

 

[Galian Beast]

if he becomes available, i say pick him up. He is a stud. And would be a cornerstone for our offense for years to come. I'm always up for having TWO good wide receivers. Hell even three.

Lets not ignore the fact that we're obviously going to see a fall in Romo's production this year. He might have fewer interceptions thrown, but he'll almost certainly have fewer tds, yards, ypa...

There is a reason why we went ahead and got t.o. in the first place. And look how our offense eventually responded when we got a qb who could get him the ball...

Our offense went from 25th in 2004, to 15th in 2005 with bledsoe/johnson, to 4th with romo/owens, to 2nd with romo/owens full year. You want to try your best to maintain that ability, not take a step backwards. Lets make it easier for the defense, by producing on offense.

 

[dadymat]

if he becomes available, i say pick him up. He is a stud. And would be a cornerstone for our offense for years to come. I'm always up for having TWO good wide receivers. Hell even three.

Lets not ignore the fact that we're obviously going to see a fall in Romo's production this year. He might have fewer interceptions thrown, but he'll almost certainly have fewer tds, yards, ypa...

There is a reason why we went ahead and got t.o. in the first place. And look how our offense eventually responded when we got a qb who could get him the ball...

Our offense went from 25th in 2004, to 15th in 2005 with bledsoe/johnson, to 4th with romo/owens, to 2nd with romo/owens full year. You want to try your best to maintain that ability, not take a step backwards. Lets make it easier for the defense, by producing on offense.

not facts ...assumptions.....Romo is more responsible for this teams offense being that good than T.O.....

 

[Galian Beast]

name one quarterbacks who's production elevated after losing t.o.

Jeff Garcia? Donavan McNabb?

No...

Romo might spread it around more, but he couldn't get ANY receivers balls last year year. It was disgusting.

 

[Aikbach]

name one quarterbacks who's production elevated after losing t.o.

Jeff Garcia? Donavan McNabb?

No...

Romo might spread it around more, but he couldn't get ANY receivers balls last year year. It was disgusting.

He also up until this juncture left declining football teams coming off losing seasons with him on the roster.
Dallas is a question mark with a boatload more talent than either the 2003 Niners or 2005 Eagles.

 

[Idgit]

name one quarterbacks who's production elevated after losing t.o.

Jeff Garcia? Donavan McNabb?

No...

Romo might spread it around more, but he couldn't get ANY receivers balls last year year. It was disgusting.

Yeah. It's a real head-scratcher what happened in SF/Philly after TO left....

2004 93ers:
81 Rashaun Woods, WR 6-2 205 10/17/80 R Oklahoma St.
83 Arnaz Battle, WR 6-1 217 2/22/80 2 Notre Dame
84 Cedrick Wilson, WR 5-10 179 12/17/78 4 Tennessee
85 Brandon Lloyd, WR 6-0 184 7/5/81 2 Illinois
88 Derrick Hamilton, WR 6-4 203 11/30/81 R Clemson
89 Curtis Conway, WR 6-1 200 1/13/71 12 USC
10 P.J. Fleck, WR 5-10 185 11/29/80 R Northern Illinois
44 Steve Bush, TE 6-3 267 7/4/74 8 Arizona St
49 Aaron Walker, TE 6-6 252 3/14/80 2 Florida
82 Eric Johnson, TE 6-3 256 9/15/79 4 Yale
86 Brian Jennings, TE 6-5 245 10/14/76 5 Arizona St

2006 Eagles:
81 Avant, Jason WR 8 3 04/20/1983 Michigan
84 Baskett, Hank WR 16 5 09/04/1982 New Mexico
86 Brown, Reggie WR 16 15 01/13/1981 Georgia
83 Lewis, Greg WR 16 3 02/12/1980 Illinois
18 Stallworth, Donte'WR 12 11 11/10/1980 Tennessee
89 Schobel, Matt TE 16 4 11/04/1978 Texas Christian
82 Smith, L.J. TE 16 15 05/13/1980 Rutgers
88 Bartrum, Mike TE 11 0 06/23/1970 Marshall

 

[dbair1967]

Romo might spread it around more, but he couldn't get ANY receivers balls last year year. It was disgusting.

 

[JeffInDC]

name one quarterbacks who's production elevated after losing t.o.

Jeff Garcia? Donavan McNabb?

No...

Romo might spread it around more, but he couldn't get ANY receivers balls last year year. It was disgusting.

Actually, McNabb was having an outstanding 2006 before he got hurt. 2006 you say? Yes, 2006 because T.O. was still with Philly in '05. And, McNabb's numbers in year 2 of T.O. in the offense actually started declining.

McNabb: (with T.O)
'04 - 3875 yards, 31 TD's, 8 INT's, 104.7 Rating (15 games)
'05 - 2507 yards, 16 TD's, 9 INT's, 85 Rating (9 games - 7 with T.O)

McNabb: (without T.O)
'06 - 2647 yards, 18 TD's, 6 INT's, 95.5 Rating (10 games)

And, Garcia's numbers probably sucked more due to the fact that he left San Fran. the same year T.O did and ended up in a terible situation in Cleveland.

Don't be shocked if Romo's INT's drop this year.

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

TO of 3 years ago could still get it done. Todays TO is fading.

. When he is in the pro bowl after the season what will everybody say then? Dont bring up the Bills win/loss either because the topic is always, "he doesn't have it anymore". Such BS

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

Totally disagree.

Every Super Bowl winning QB has had a receiver he can rely on.

I don't know if Tony Romo has had one since Terry Glenn.

Yeah that fumble in the red zone boy. That Terry you sure can rely on. If you cant rely on somebody in the playoffs i dont want to hear that nonsense. I swear when it comes to TO the hate for him makes people say the dumbest things. Terry Glenn?

And you are serious too.