Lets not let Roy "Who me" Williams slide...

khiladi

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It's never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever Roy Williams fault. The ball that went through his hands and hit him in the head was an act of God, again, not Roy's fault.
On the flea-flicker it was not as much Roy's fault as it was Terrence Newmans'.. I never said the sure interception was not Roy's fault...

He also had a key third down stop behind the line which didn't allow the first down, as well as put the Commanders out of field goal range on the one the Commander's kicker missed...

the fact is ROY IS PLAYING OUT OF POSITION... we need a real free safety, which we do not have... the Cowboys would be a lot better if they allowed him to do what Pittsburgh allows Palamalu to do...

I think he needs to lose some weight as well... the msucle seems to have slowed him down...
 

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khiladi;1145210 said:
Troy's production was not that good his first year because of them trying to hold his reins... Pittsburgh than started to let Polamalu free-style a lot, playing a lot at the line...

If Roy could do some of the things that are allowed Troy, it would be madness...

:hammer:
 

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Roy Williams is a glorified LB's trying to play safety.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1145169 said:
I agree. During the pre-season we were told on this board how Roy is perhaps the best safety in the NFL.

My arse.

I think we overrate alot of players on this team.

Canty and Spears being a couple more.

I think Ware is playing well. But he's not an impact guy, yet.

And the worst thing about the way Williams is playing is, he's being used in a way that highlights his coverage weaknesses because we STILL don't have a decent FS or a D Line that gets pressure on the QB.
 

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CrazyCowboy;1145230 said:
SAD day in Cowboy country!

yep, certainly is, throwing your catalyctic, the only one I might add, playmaker under the bus *tisk* *tisk*
 

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I actually thought it was a smart penalty at first, but looking at it again, he definitely had a chance to play the ball
 

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I'd hate to see our worst playmaker...........:bang2:
 

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summerisfunner;1145227 said:
who's doing a damn, fine job

Really, so a safety that can't cover is doing his job. Then i guess you have low standard for what a real safety is suppose to do. I guess you never watch Darren Woodson play.
 

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DMX690;1145252 said:
Really, so a safety that can't cover is going his job. Then i guess you have low standard for what a real safety is suppose to do. I guess you never watch Darren Woodson play.

hmmm, where oh where did ROy's 3 INTs come from, and a near one today?

yeah, he can't cover
 

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I think we overrate alot of players on this team.

Canty and Spears being a couple more.

I think Ware is playing well. But he's not an impact guy, yet.

Actually, I think it is more of the style... The defense is made to stop the run, which Dallas is doing a mighty fine job... they held Portis totally in check except for that one big play to the OUTSIDE...

our problem is in the secondary, as well as what seems to be our blitz packages... on the botched play by Aaron Glenn, the Commanders knew what was coming... they just ran a screen to the outside and picked up some huge yardage...

that was the play Aaron Glenn started yelling back at Parcells...
 

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hmmm, where oh where did ROy's 3 INTs come from, and a near one today?

yeah, he can't coverhmmm, where oh where did ROy's 3 INTs come from, and a near one today?

Actually, that's pretty deceptive.. I am a huge Roy Williams fan, but he has been playing piss poor at certain points in the game... those 3 interceptions, one of them, the one to Delhomme, any safety could have gotten that one..

we have given up a lot of big plays on defense.. that is really what's killing us... because of our contain defense, it does not seem like we are forcing the QB to make throws...
 

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khiladi;1145271 said:
Actually, that's pretty deceptive..

no it's not, it's him being at the right place at the right time in coverage, same thing Ed Reed does, though Roy doesn't do it as often

khiladi said:
I am a huge Roy Williams fan, but he has been playing piss poor at certain points in the game...

what SS doesn't?

coverage is ROy's weakness, he's average there, I can accept that, hell, I agree w/ it, but to say he's a liability, and is overrated, sorry, just not true
 

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summerisfunner;1145258 said:
hmmm, where oh where did ROy's 3 INTs come from, and a near one today?

yeah, he can't cover

Getting int's didn't mean you're a good in converge. If that's was the case then Newman who be leading this team in INT
 

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that near-INT that went thru roy's hands and doinked off his helmet during a drive that culminated in a Commanders TD... epitomizes what's wrong with our defense.

dallas couldn't mount a decent rush on old brunnell. couldn't force him to make more of those kinds of throws. and didn't capitalize the few times when he did. this isn't what i expected from the defense when they broke camp. but it sure does look familiar. all TOO familiar. GROZ.
 

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DMX690;1145292 said:
Getting int's didn't mean you're a good in converge. If that's was the case then Newman who be leading this team in INT

no it doesn't, you're right, but it means that he knows how to cover, and can

he's not this huge liability back there as many of you claim, and makes as many plays in coverage as the next safety, as well as gets beat as often as the next one
 

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coverage is ROy's weakness, he's average there, I can accept that, hell, I agree w/ it, but to say he's a liability, and is overrated, sorry, just not true ________

I did not say that... what I was saying is that he has played piss poor at times... he's not a liability, and he's not overrated, but we need a true free safety...
 

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khiladi;1145319 said:
I did not say that... what I was saying is that he has played piss poor at times... he's not a liability, and he's not overrated, but we need a true free safety...

that wasn't really directed at you, just explaining my reasoning :) but yeah, we really need a FS so that Roy can play close to the LOS more
 
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