Lets not let Roy "Who me" Williams slide...

[jrumann59]

Peyton Manning is going to make a highlight reel out of Roy like Tracy McGrady did to Shawn Bradley. Yeah, Roy might make a couple of good hits on Addai or the WRs, but Manning will abuse him in the end.

Unless RW is going to be man to man on the WR it is doubtful.

 

[QT]

Unless RW is going to be man to man on the WR it is doubtful.

I can picture him trying to help out on a bomb to Reggie Wayne, running into the opposing assistant coach on the sideline, and blaming him for interferring.

 

[Joe_Fan]

Roy is the D's best playmaker

That's not exactly saying much.

 

[TunaoftheLand]

Roy's strength's - Hitting, playing the run, making plays on balls that are thrown underneath him.

Roy's weaknesses - Covering the deep ball, playing the WR instead of the ball resulting in pass interference, taking proper angles to the ball carrier to prevent long TDs, getting beat deep way way way too much, lack of overall speed

His weaknesses outweighed his strengths tonight. The Portis run should have been stopped somewhere between the 10 and 20 if he took the right angle or just ran faster, the penalty on Randle El was a terrible play, and he seems to always be standing around whenever a deep TD pass is thrown on us.

Best safety in the league? Ed Reed.

 

[Rampage]

anybody want a roy williams jersey?

 

[AdamJT13]

His weaknesses outweighed his strengths tonight. The Portis run should have been stopped somewhere between the 10 and 20 if he took the right angle or just ran faster

You're blaming Roy for that play? How about blaming the five guys on that side of the field instead of the safety on the other side.

Best safety in the league? Ed Reed.

The same Ed Reed who has a whopping two interceptions, no forced fumbles for turnovers, no fumble recoveries and no sacks since 2004, and who blew the coverage on Carolina's winning 72-yard TD pass a couple of weeks ago?

 

[TunaoftheLand]

I'm blaming the entire D for the long Portis run, but Roy should have stopped him at about the 10 or 20 if he would have taken the right angle. He was there, just too late. And yes, that is the Ed Reed I'm talking about. Roy Williams is not better than Ed Reed, anyone who took off their silver and blue glasses can see that. Is Roy good? Yes. Does he underachieve? Yes.

 

[AdamJT13]

I'm blaming the entire D for the long Portis run, but Roy should have stopped him at about the 10 or 20 if he would have taken the right angle. He was there, just too late.

And what was the right angle? Exactly how does a backside safety read that play correctly to make the tackle between the 10 and 20?

And yes, that is the Ed Reed I'm talking about. Roy Williams is not better than Ed Reed, anyone who took off their silver and blue glasses can see that. Is Roy good? Yes. Does he underachieve? Yes.

Is Ed Reed the best safety in the league? No. Not since 2004. For the past two seasons, he hasn't been the playmaker he once was. If Roy made only one big play per season, a lot of fans would want to bench him even if he never got beaten on a single pass. But Reed fails to make plays AND gets beaten, and he's still the best?

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Adam, Are you accounting for Reed being injured for a majority of his '05 campaign ?

 

[AdamJT13]

Adam, Are you accounting for Reed being injured for a majority of his '05 campaign ?

He missed only six games -- not a majority. He wasn't injured until the middle of the season and hadn't made a single big play before getting hurt. He missed six games, then did next-to-nothing when he came back (he picked off Charlie Frye in the last game of the season). And he hasn't been hurt this season.

Unless you think Reed would have intercepted seven passes, forced three fumbles, recovered two fumbles and had two sacks in those six games he missed (after getting none of any of them before that), injuries aren't the reason he hasn't been the playmaker he once was.

 

[ZeroClub]

Truly great players don't need to be defended every other week.

 

[Muhast]

wow cowboys fans are funny now a days..and to thinkk.... I thought TEAMS lose games.. apparently not. its just roy, and witten that were playing, oh yea and t.o Its 3 guys on the teams fault.

its a team game people. teams lose

 

[Chuck 54]

He gets a INt last week and everyone loves him. Then this and arrrg!!! He causes Turnovers and he hits hard. He gets some INt's too. I'd take him over any safety in the NFL...

I sincerely hope you meant over any SS in the league...he's good, but he is weak in coverage....I'd take many FS's over him. it's not even close.

 

[Chuck 54]

wow cowboys fans are funny now a days..and to thinkk.... I thought TEAMS lose games.. apparently not. its just roy, and witten that were playing, oh yea and t.o Its 3 guys on the teams fault.

its a team game people. teams lose

Was that also your stance when Bledsoe was being dumped on?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think we overrate alot of players on this team.

Canty and Spears being a couple more.

I think Ware is playing well. But he's not an impact guy, yet.

And the worst thing about the way Williams is playing is, he's being used in a way that highlights his coverage weaknesses because we STILL don't have a decent FS or a D Line that gets pressure on the QB.

Oh I agree.

I'm starting to think we were sold a "bill of goods" on Canty and Spears.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You're blaming Roy for that play? How about blaming the five guys on that side of the field instead of the safety on the other side.

I agree on that one... to run down the sideline untouched for 40 yards is ludicrous.

 

[88 enough said]

Oh yeah , he makes plays....on Madden 07

If he's our best -then the ship be sinking....

Hey maybe your right, but your not going to win a spelling contest. Check your sig, memries is spelled "MEMORIES"

 

[Concord]

Truly great players don't need to be defended every other week.

That is true. Adam should be Williams' lawyer for defending him so much.

 

[TheNatureBoy]

And what was the right angle? Exactly how does a backside safety read that play correctly to make the tackle between the 10 and 20?



Is Ed Reed the best safety in the league? No. Not since 2004. For the past two seasons, he hasn't been the playmaker he once was. If Roy made only one big play per season, a lot of fans would want to bench him even if he never got beaten on a single pass. But Reed fails to make plays AND gets beaten, and he's still the best?

Dude stop - you sound absurd....it's like defending an alcoholic when all the world can see he or she is....
Roy is a habitual offender of gross defensive dsiplay when said pig be in the air...
It's plain and it's simple and it's not hard to comprehend....
Stop

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

As many who have been on this board for awhile know, I don't believe RLW is the be all, end all at safety. I think he's a good player but he can be taken advantage of, and often is. Roy did make plays in yesterdays game and none were any bigger then his short yardage play, late in the 4th against Portis. 3rd and 2, if Portis gets that first down, the game is over IMO. Roy dropped him for a 3 yard loss. That was a great play, worthy of praise. Roy dropped a sure INT and he took a terribly bad angle on the deep ball to Randell-El but then, as I have said since the day we drafted Roy, anybody who watched him play in college new he was not good in pass coverage. The question really should be, why do we continue to put him in positions where he can be beaten? Newman got beat initially on that pass but in truth, Newman has been the most solid defensive player we have. He is human and every player will make mistakes. He made one there. That's why you have deep safety help. It's not easy to locate the ball in the air, judge speed, angle and distance of both ball and player but it is what good pass coverage safeties do. Roy, a guy who goes for the hit on almost every play, made a mistake on that particular play by not doing what he normally does. He tried to play the ball rather then going for the hit. Easy for me to say. I'm not out there playing. Still, it was a play that he should have been able to make. Roy just isn't a good cover safety and he probably never will be. We know this. Who is to blame here? Is it Roy for trying to make the plays he obviously doesn't play well or is it the coaching staff for continuously putting him in position to have to make them? I have always hated that interchangable BS scheme with the safeties. Most teams don't play it. Why? Why do most teams play a traditional scheme in man to man as opposed to what we play? Get that figured out and you will get most of the issues we have with Roy figured out, IMO.