Let's talk cap

MichaelWinicki said:
You know that could happen.

He'd come in at a reasonable price and he'd play a couple hundred snaps.
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Yeah I have had the idea in my head for awhile. He has to be grateful to the Joneses for letting him go and pick his team. If you listened to his comments last year before the SB, you could tell that he regretted that it wasn't with us.

If Denver doesn't attempt to bring him back and he still wants to play, you gotta think we would be his first choice. He probably still has a home in Texas, he knows the coaching staff and we might be his best shot at another ring. Plus he would fit our price range and there would be no long term commitment.

He could be finished but I have no doubt he would be our team leader in sacks even if he only played in 3rd and long situations.
 
gmoney112 said:
Not me. I'm taking that 7 mill this year, and i'm going and getting Mario Addison or Kawaan Short.

Jurrell Casey, Jaye Howard, Michael Bennett, and a lot of other guys are making less salary than Crawford this year, or right around it.

To each his own
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I think Carolina is going to retain Short.

Addison offers some potential. But the Cowboys can create enough cap space to sign Addison without releasing Crawford IMO.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
I think Carolina is going to retain Short.

Addison offers some potential. But the Cowboys can create enough cap space to sign Addison without releasing Crawford IMO.
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Crawford is an interesting prospect because he is similar to what Free was years ago.

We paid Free to be a LT, he didn't live up to his contract and he knew he wouldn't get that much on the market so he took a pay cut to stay with the team. Crawford wouldn't get more on the market so if the team would play tough and tell him to take a pay cut or see the door, maybe just maybe. Especially if you gave him a chance to make even more with incentives.

It's easier to ask a pay cut from a guy that is in a contract way above market value than a guy like Dez Bryant who would likely get an identical deal on the market(especially after the playoff game).
 
MichaelWinicki said:
I think Carolina is going to retain Short.

Addison offers some potential. But the Cowboys can create enough cap space to sign Addison without releasing Crawford IMO.
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It doesn't matter because the 7 million he wants to use to sign these guys coming from Crawford will be available too late to sign anyone who's a top end FA.
 
robjay04 said:
Crawford is an interesting prospect because he is similar to what Free was years ago.

We paid Free to be a LT, he didn't live up to his contract and he knew he wouldn't get that much on the market so he took a pay cut to stay with the team. Crawford wouldn't get more on the market so if the team would play tough and tell him to take a pay cut or see the door, maybe just maybe. Especially if you gave him a chance to make even more with incentives.

It's easier to ask a pay cut from a guy that is in a contract way above market value than a guy like Dez Bryant who would likely get an identical deal on the market(especially after the playoff game).
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Interesting point about a pay-cut.
 
Derinyar said:
The thing is there's zero leverage for the Cowboys to ask for his money this year. He knows they can't really afford to cut him this year.
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Agreed.

Next year the Cowboys have some incentive provided they do not restructure his contract this offseason to create more cap space.

Bottom line... like him or not like him, he'll be a Dallas Cowboy during the 2017 season.
 
Sam I Am said:
I think you basically have to keep Tony for next year. The best you will do is save $5M on this year if you trade him. You will need a backup QB taking most of that back. Right now you have a high caliber QB that serves as a backup. Cutting him and signing someone else saves you what? $1-3M? Yeah, no. I will take Romo over a $1-3M/year QB.

Now, trading Romo the following year you can save $16.3M off his $25.2M cap hit.

This is a no-brainer. You keep Romo through next year.
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Would Romo accept that tho? Being a backup? It would be my dream come true cuz I love Romo but I would hate to see him stay against his will due to cap issues. But that's a different subject.

Wasn't there talk of trying to resign Martin to a long extension this offseason?
 
MichaelWinicki said:
No he won't.

If push comes to shove he'll request and get his release.

That 14 mil isn't guaranteed.

As a starter for another team he would get something in that vicinity, with the bulk of that guaranteed.

Fitzpatrick got $12 mil this season. Romo is better than him. And there are several teams that need a better starting QB.
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Dead money buddy. You think a release of Tony is free? You're mistaken. (guaranteed / signing / restructure bonus is a *****)

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plymkr said:
Would Romo accept that tho? Being a backup? It would be my dream come true cuz I love Romo but I would hate to see him stay against his will due to cap issues. But that's a different subject.

Wasn't there talk of trying to resign Martin to a long extension this offseason?
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His choices are accept or retire. If he retires, we are only on the hook for what he has already been paid. (ie, base salary is off the books) The problem is, there is a big portion that has been paid that is spread out over the last three years of his contract. He retires and we eat that all next year. Not over the next three years.
 
So correct me if I'm wrong but the eagles redid Demarco Murray's contract (or signed him to a new contract) prior to trading him to the Titans. The Titans absorbed Murray's new contract, which in effect allowed Murray's to be taken off the Eagles book completely.....I think. Could the Cowboys do the same with Romo if there's a trade agreement with another team where all 3 parties are satisfied? It's either that or the team might hold Romo hostage in Dallas where he won't be able to fulfill his dream of once again starting.

That's a lot of money off the books if his new contract could be absorbed by another team.....
 
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Sam I Am said:
Dead money buddy. You think a release of Tony is free? You're mistaken. (guaranteed / signing / restructure bonus is a *****)

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Thanks for posting this. So if I understand this correctly if he retires we have 19 million in dead money all on 2017's cap. IF he plays with his current deal as a backup then his cap hit will be 24.7 million. So regardless we're kind of screwed cap wise either way. I'd just assume keep him because if it's a cap hit of 19 million if he leaves and then we have to find a suitable backup, bye Sanchez, that could cost a couple million and we'd have he same cap hit as if Romo stays.

I hope Romo's wife likes it in Dallas and doesn't want to uproot the family and he stays as a backup. Dak and Romo as our quarterbacks would be a tremendous luxury. Best case scenario is Romo takes a paycut to be the back up, but I think I'm dreaming on that one.
 
ak47kaehu said:
So correct me if I'm wrong but the eagles redid Demarco Murray's contract (or signed him to a new contract) prior to trading him to the Titans. The Titans absorbed Murray's new contract, which in effect allowed Murray's to be taken off the Eagles book completely.....I think. Could the Cowboys do the same with Romo if there's a trade agreement with another team where all 3 parties are satisfied? It's either that or the team might hold Romo hostage in Dallas where he won't be able to fulfill his dream of once again starting.

That's a lot of money off the books if his new contract could be absorbed by another team.....
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The Eagles were still left with Dead Money for Murray and Byron Maxwell

They were able to get out of the guaranteed money left on the deal with the trade though and moved up a few spots in the draft

Romo doesn't have any guaranteed money left and the new team would be liable for his 14m base and two options year at 20m each...... a Romo trade would save DAL 31m off the cap the next 2 years at his current salary but they would never keep him at those rates as a backup

If he wants a say in his future he would be best off signing a new deal with DAL that helps their cap situation but guarantees him big money if traded......DAL would get big time and immediate cap relief and a possible draft pick and Romo would get security and a say in his trade partner
 
Sam I Am said:
Dead money buddy. You think a release of Tony is free? You're mistaken. (guaranteed / signing / restructure bonus is a *****)

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I know there's dead money... A lot of it.

But if they keep him it will cost $5 mil more.

Now the $5 mil isn't a big number, but it's not a chump change either.

However IMO the most important thing would be Romo's desire to ride the pine again for another season, which I believe has to be non-existent at this point.

If Romo plays football in 2017 it will not be as a backup on the Dallas Cowboys.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
I know there's dead money... A lot of it.

But if they keep him it will cost $5 mil more.

Now the $5 mil isn't a big number, but it's not a chump change either.

However IMO the most important thing would be Romo's desire to ride the pine again for another season, which I believe has to be non-existent at this point.

If Romo plays football in 2017 it will not be as a backup on the Dallas Cowboys.
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My point is Romo >>>>>> Crap Backup and save $3M. (the backup likely will cost at least $2M saving only $3M)
 
Sam I Am said:
lol, he won't. What's he going to do? Retire?

The Cowboys would have to EAT $14M and THEN accept a POS backup QB.

Only a DAMN FOOL would do that. The NFL is a business and Romo is taking almost $20M to sit the bench.

You DAMN right he will do it.
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If you force an angry Tony Romo to sit on the bench an entire season uninjured and unhappy ......... you are asking for a ***storm from the media and a distraction larger than anything we felt last year.

Its a dumb move any way you slice it regardless of cap space,
 
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