Linehan is the real MVP

TheMarathonContinues

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Why not give Linehan credit? This is basically the same offense from a year ago. Garrett had this same offense and could not even muster up the type of production that Linehan was able to do. I don't understand the love that Garrett's gets around here. To me the less he does for this team, the better. I'm just being honest. Just call it addition by subtraction.

Its not that he shouldn't get credit.....but the notion that its just Linehan for credit? Its silly to me. This offense wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be. They were #5 in offense and were #2 in redzone efficiency.

Is the offense better this year? I believe so. But guys are making it like he took the worst offense in the league to one of the best. Like Maranelli has done with his side of the ball.

And another thing that's starting to get annoying is that the Cowboys coaching staff is any different than most. MOST teams in this league have a OC and a DC.....and the head coaches that do call their defense have a defensive staff. But Garrett is suppose to get less credit? For what?
 

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Seriously? Or are you just trolling?

If it was my plan to get a collection of SUVs, my first choice would have been to get the SUV and not the sports car.

Ah. Well, that's only true if you're only capable of coming up with a plan that has one step to it. Most NFL teams, I suspect, go into a draft with slightly more detail than that. And, no, I'm not trolling. I'm legitimately having a hard time imagining you think what you're describing it the way things work in an NFL war room.
 

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I honestly don't see how anyone can think Linehan isn't a difference maker. Would our offense be humming like this if we still had the same coaching/playcalling arrangement as we did last year? I doubt it.

That performance on Sunday night was one of the most balanced, efficient games I've seen a Dallas offense execute in ages. It was literally a thing of beauty.

Hell, we stuck with the run game even when we were down 21 points against the Rams. We couldn't stick to the run game when were WINNING games last year.

Linehan IS definitely making a difference. Kudos to the FO for bringing him in.

That is not the argument though.

Cheese satellite didn't only say that Linehan gets credit. Only a fool argues that. Instead he was arguing that Linehan gets credit at the exclusion of Garrett as if it is some zero sum binary game.
 

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I credit a powerhouse line for bringing it all together. I credit Linehan for great playcalling and using what he has to the greatest extent. I credit Garrett for stepping back and overseeing things. I credit JJ for signing off on all of this.

Who's MVP? I don't know. I'm just damn glad it all came together and we're having success.
 

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They have spoken repeatedly over the last three year about the priority of the OL. Repeating garbage like the above does not change that.

Then wouldn't OL be picked past the 1st as well? Smith was only the beginning of the rebuild, we had to wait until next season for the next piece? That is BPA based on need, not an organization structural change. No young OL brought in outside of Smith; wait for Frederick and then Martin? I'm not saying the team would have hit, but the attempts would have been made...
 
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I credit a powerhouse line for bringing it all together. I credit Linehan for great playcalling and using what he has to the greatest extent. I credit Garrett for stepping back and overseeing things. I credit JJ for signing off on all of this.

Who's MVP? I don't know. I'm just damn glad it all came together and we're having success.
Different Q: Who is the least integral in the above equation? :D Just messn with ya
 

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Linehan is legit. I remember several game last year I was like do we even have a game plan on offense? This season I see confidence and play calling is more dynamic. Just look at the routes our wrs are running. There is a plan now.
 

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Its not that he shouldn't get credit.....but the notion that its just Linehan for credit? Its silly to me. This offense wasn't as bad as you guys made it out to be. They were #5 in offense and were #2 in redzone efficiency.

Is the offense better this year? I believe so. But guys are making it like he took the worst offense in the league to one of the best. Like Maranelli has done with his side of the ball.

And another thing that's starting to get annoying is that the Cowboys coaching staff is any different than most. MOST teams in this league have a OC and a DC.....and the head coaches that do call their defense have a defensive staff. But Garrett is suppose to get less credit? For what?

Linehan took us from an offense with no identity and no intestinal fortitude to a steamrolling juggernaut. It's that simple. Major contrast just from last season to present.
 

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Both Smith and Fredricks are a year older and better plus Martin is a massive upgrade. It makes a difference and that obvious from watching this team

Stop it.....

Give the man credit.
 

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Ren closes the thread out with the first swing.

Of course you would agree.

It helps you pound your chest, when you sat around screaming for years to fix the O-Line. Including Last Year.

The problem is, we only have 1 major change to the O-Line. Years/experience or not...... we ran away from the run last year.

Linehan is creative, and helps our run game, along with the O-line, but that does not work for you, it needs to be all O-Line so you can feel right.

Just like you tried to claim in the game thread the saints game was going "Exactly how I thought it would". Sure, had we been getting smashed, you would of took a leak on Jerry, and blamed the D-Line/Front 7 and Carr's contract.

If I remember correctly, you hated Free. Well he is apart of this new best O-line. I guess Linehan's play calling isn't helping him out. Nope it's all Free.
 

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...Just like you tried to claim in the game thread the saints game was going "Exactly how I thought it would"...

Did this actually happen? And was there maybe a context where it was somehow understandable? Because that's pretty impressive, even for Risen, if that's true and not out of context.

I bet he was making fun of his own earlier prediction.
 

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Ah. Well, that's only true if you're only capable of coming up with a plan that has one step to it. Most NFL teams, I suspect, go into a draft with slightly more detail than that. And, no, I'm not trolling. I'm legitimately having a hard time imagining you think what you're describing it the way things work in an NFL war room.

I'm not sure why you are taking what I said and coming up with this conclusion.

My original point is JG is trying to make it sound like he had this grand plan to build our Oline with 3 first rounders when he became the HC just like SF did. This is a blatant lie. SF took 2 linemen with their 2 first round picks in 2010 draft. We took T. Smith in round 1 of 2011 draft, Arkin with the 4th rounder and didn't even take a OLineman in 2012 draft. We were targeting defense for our first picks for 2013 and 2014 drafts.

This is what good politicians do all the time. Something good happens and they want to take credit for it by saying they had it planned all along.

JG is doing his typical politician act.
 

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Did this actually happen? And was there maybe a context where it was somehow understandable? Because that's pretty impressive, even for Risen, if that's true and not out of context.

I bet he was making fun of his own earlier prediction.

Well I didn't see any earlier post.

Yes, it did happen. If I had the time like certain members I'd go full on search in that thread. It was after the Carter tip Int.

Don't know if he was serious or not, sure seemed like it.

Regardless he wants to take credit for his constant talk of O-line over the years. Had this O-line look terrible, Jerry would get bashed for poor drafting.

We look good, I do not see Jerry praise from this guy.
 

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I'm not sure why you are taking what I said and coming up with this conclusion.

My original point is JG is trying to make it sound like he had this grand plan to build our Oline with 3 first rounders when he became the HC just like SF did. This is a blatant lie. SF took 2 linemen with their 2 first round picks in 2010 draft. We took T. Smith in round 1 of 2011 draft, Arkin with the 4th rounder and didn't even take a OLineman in 2012 draft. We were targeting defense for our first picks for 2013 and 2014 drafts.

This is what good politicians do all the time. Something good happens and they want to take credit for it by saying they had it planned all along.

JG is doing his typical politician act.

You're going to pull a muscle in your back if you keep bending like this. We took the good OL players in the first round of the draft under his tenure. When we had not done so in a long, long time before that. There really is nothing else to be said about it. It's not a political issue, it's just what happened. It's ok if that doesn't sit well with you because acknowledging it means giving Jason Garrett credit.

For my part, I'm thrilled the OLs all panned out, but I still happen to think we overdrafted the interior OL at the expense positions that are harder to fill. Both with Frederick and with Martin. That doesn't mean I'm criticizing those picks which turned out to be great, I just think the we were in a position where we had to overdraft those two players. Frederick, relative to where he probably would have gone. Martin, relative to where I'd ever draft a player I expected to be a career OG (that changes if we move him to OT eventually). But, hey, it was part of our plan for what we'd do if the players/positions we'd targeted higher weren't available. That's what any good plan requires: contingency.
 

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How quickly we forget how subservient we were to 8 in the box over the last few years. Major fan frustration. Now jettisoned thanks in a major way to Linehan.
 

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How quickly we forget how subservient we were to 8 in the box over the last few years. Major fan frustration. Now jettisoned thanks in a major way to Linehan.

We weren't, though. That's the point. We were very productive last year on offense when we had the ball. Maybe fans were frustrated by it, but we were able to score points per possession. That's all you can really ask of an offense.
 
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