Listening to the Radio this morning

[willia451]

Dez Bryant is not Jerry Rice. It has taken Dez a very long time to learn the routes that he runs. Remember his first two years or so in the NFL? And how everyone was down on him saying he can't run a good, clean route to save his life?

Dez has 3 or 4 basic routes that he runs. He practices them over and over. And he needs too. Dez needs to practice his routes so he can run them well. Or he gets rusty with them very quickly.

We know this about him. We've talked about it over and over.

Now people want to put him anywhere and everywhere.

LOL!!! Ok.

 

[The Natural]

You know what I want to know..why dont we use Lucky Whitehead? That guy runs a 4.39 40 and can flat out fly past defenders yet I've never seen us run him on a deep pass. Hell even if you do it once a game it keeps the safeties honest and would open up opportunities underneath for guys like Dez or Butler. I dont get it, I see Arizona do it with John Brown and New Orleans with Brandon Cooks, two comparable sized players. I guess it's asking too much of these coaches to play to a players strength instead of using them as decoys.

 

[Redball Express]

It's been the same knock on the offensive design for quite some time. It does a poor job to scheme players to get open and requires them to constantly win matchups. Look at the Bengals yesterday, AJ Green goes for 12 catches, 180 yds against a good Jets def. Just about everyone knows they are throwing to AJ, who else do they really have? Marvin Jones and Sanu are gone, their Pro Bowl TE Eifert is still out and they still find ways to get AJ the ball. Sure, Dalton is a better QB than Dak is right now, but it's hard to believe a good OC staff couldn't manage a way to get Dez at least 4-5 catches instead of 1.

I don't even want to talk about teaching a team how to properly run a screen(that isn't to the slowest player on the field)..........

Yeah..

TE screens are a waste of time.

Bubble screens to a WR?

Screens to Zeke?

Not to Witten.

 

[Sydla]

It seems to me that the best slot guys are small and quick. That ain't Dez.

No one is suggesting he play slot full time. But you can move Dez around. Other teams do it with their WRs. Atlanta does it with Julio Jones, etc.

 

[btcutter]

Where's the slant?

and the drag route over the middle???

 

[TheCount]

No because they understand he shouldn't have to always be a magician in order to make a play.

That was a tough play. He kept his hand under the ball the entire time. The ball moved.. What can you do? Hope the ball doesn't move? He caught the ball. It just moved.

I find it hilarious that because Dez is Dez, people think either of those catches were easy ones.

 

[btcutter]

Yeah..

TE screens are a waste of time.

Bubble screens to a WR?

Screens to Zeke?

Not to Witten.

The screen play to Witten should be BURNED! Next time OC calls it should be fired on the spot.

 

[Blackspider214]

Welcome to 5 years ago. Garrett is in way over his head and it shows. He has no clue what he is doing and Romo just masked him and propped him up. You can go back to his first full season in 2011 and find so many instances. First that comes to mind is that Lions game where we blew a 24-27pt lead. Where we are still slinging it around the field. Then in the NE game up by 6, we run 3 straight times into the line and punted and lose by 1. Icing his own kicker. Wasting all that time with timeouts in the bag against the Ravens so we can attempt a near 60yd FG. All we heard is he is young and will get better but he isn't. He's pathetic and might be the worst coach in the NFL. In fact, this trio of HC/OC/DC is the worst in the league in my eyes.

They do not know how to involve Dez consistently. They have no idea how to adjust. Every route is slow developing and down the field. We don't move anyone around. We rely on our guys beating their guys 1 on 1 or 1 on 2. While teams like NE and Sea scheme to get their guys open.

 

[DBOY3141]

Welcome to 5 years ago. Garrett is in way over his head and it shows. He has no clue what he is doing and Romo just masked him and propped him up. You can go back to his first full season in 2011 and find so many instances. First that comes to mind is that Lions game where we blew a 24-27pt lead. Where we are still slinging it around the field. Then in the NE game up by 6, we run 3 straight times into the line and punted and lose by 1. Icing his own kicker. Wasting all that time with timeouts in the bag against the Ravens so we can attempt a near 60yd FG. All we heard is he is young and will get better but he isn't. He's pathetic and might be the worst coach in the NFL. In fact, this trio of HC/OC/DC is the worst in the league in my eyes.

They do not know how to involve Dez consistently. They have no idea how to adjust. Every route is slow developing and down the field. We don't move anyone around. We rely on our guys beating their guys 1 on 1 or 1 on 2. While teams like NE and Sea scheme to get their guys open.

Couldn't agree more...sadly we are stuck with this circus for a few more years. JG is going no where.

 

[Sydla]

Do we even use any rub routes? I know we got called for a pick yesterday but it seems other teams use them far more often than we do.

 

[TheDude]

We play a 50/50 brand of football. Even with Dez it's a 50/50 type of scheme to get him in the endzone. Just throw it up.


2014 was all about imposing our will with the run game and Romo making spectacular plays on 3rd down and in the red zone. I give Garrett no credit for how he coached in 2014. They just imposed their will.. It's 50/50 football in the salary cap era.

If it was 1992 we could just buy every good player and be as bland as we want..

2016 there is parity and we need coaching.


Bill Bellichick schemes guys open and if our WR's were Hogan, Amendola, and Edelman we would have no hope offensively but the Pats, with their backup QB, just find ways to get guys open.

Last night I started watching the game to see how dez was used.

I made it through the first half. What I cold ascertain from broadcast view was dez was lines up way outside on all but 4 plays. Looked like all those routes were 10-15 yd digs or flys. Only reception was similar her. All of these looked to have safety o er the top or shading. Cat confirm until all22

There were 4 times he was lined up inside or on slot. 2 of those were the end zone throws drawing 1-1 coverage. First was a really bad throw. 3 ft to the right and it's a TD. Cb knocked away easily.

The two others looked had dez on a crossing route. The first dez was open but protection broke down and Prescott was flushed away. Th other was the swaim completion for more yardage.

I'm interested in 2nd half and all 22, but when dez is lined up inside, he typically gets 1-1.

All others it seemed like the ball was out before dez broke on any route

 

[Blackspider214]

Couldn't agree more...sadly we are stuck with this circus for a few more years. JG is going no where.

That is what I hate. Garrett was in the same exact situation last year as Wade was in 2010. Both came off a NFC East title. Both won a wild card and lost in the divisional round and we had very high hopes for that next season. Super Bowl aspirations. Romo went down early in the year both seasons. Both years, this team went down the toilet.

Yet Wade lost his job right after that SNF game against GB. They were 1-7 I believe then. With Garrett, we lose 12 of our last 14 games and he is safe.

But that is what happens when you are Jerry's adopted son so to speak.

 

[visionary]

Waaah! Dez can't get any separation at all on a defensive back and it's all the coaches fault!

Wahhhh!
Nothing to see here
It is nobodies fault that the team keeps losing and players make bone headed plays unaware of situational football but don't say red headed Landry or a WR who can't run the route tree are to blame

 

[coogrfan]

I find it hilarious that because Dez is Dez, people think either of those catches were easy ones.

No one said they were easy. Dez is the one of the five highest paid wr's in the league. He gets paid to make the tough plays. One catch on five targets just ain't good enough, and I'm pretty sure Dez would agree.

 

[LocimusPrime]

It's been the same knock on the offensive design for quite some time. It does a poor job to scheme players to get open and requires them to constantly win matchups. Look at the Bengals yesterday, AJ Green goes for 12 catches, 180 yds against a good Jets def. Just about everyone knows they are throwing to AJ, who else do they really have? Marvin Jones and Sanu are gone, their Pro Bowl TE Eifert is still out and they still find ways to get AJ the ball. Sure, Dalton is a better QB than Dak is right now, but it's hard to believe a good OC staff couldn't manage a way to get Dez at least 4-5 catches instead of 1.

I don't even want to talk about teaching a team how to properly run a screen(that isn't to the slowest player on the field)..........

AJ green is a baller.

 

[willia451]

While teams like NE and Sea scheme to get their guys open.

That works here in Cowboys land as well. At least on some level. As long as Romo is out there telling the players where to line up and what to do on the play. You can see it when it happens. Romo calls the play. The players break huddle and move up the line. Then Romo starts yelling and pointing and making sure everyone is lined up correctly and in the correct position. Then he reads the defense. And the play starts.

You can't expect the same from Dak. At least not yet. Experience matters.

That is why we lose almost every game when Romo is out. Our players are dependent on him to tell them what to do when the situation changes. Or needs to change; more appropriately.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So Lineman is the OC yet he escapes blame and it goes straight to Jason?

 

[Redball Express]

The screen play to Witten should be BURNED! Next time OC calls it should be fired on the spot.

I'd throw it to Escobar before Witten.

 

[CATCH17]

So Lineman is the OC yet he escapes blame and it goes straight to Jason?

It's Jason Garrett's scheme and philosophies. We've seen this same stuff with TO and Miles.


Linehan is just here to insure that we run the football because Jason couldn't figure out how to involve the run game into the offense.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's Jason Garrett's scheme and philosophies. We've seen this same stuff with TO and Miles.


Linehan is just here to insure that we run the football because Jason couldn't figure out how to involve the run game into the offense.

So if that's what Linehan is here for then that sucks for him because he's getting the blame and credit for this nonsense. And its funny they brought him in here to make sure we run the ball but in Detroit he was known for.....ABANDONING the run lol.