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theogt;1410863 said:
Got a source for this?

Commanders Target Broncos' Bly
Club Creates Cap Room by Restructuring Additional Contracts

By Jason La Canfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 7, 2007; Page E04

"The Washington Commanders, after netting primary free agent targets linebacker London Fletcher and cornerback Fred Smoot, are poised to acquire cornerback Dre' Bly from the Denver Broncos.

The Commanders were $8.4 million under the cap yesterday before re-signing reserve cornerback Ade Jimoh, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

The Commanders completed another sweeping series of contract restructurings to create the cap room, according to sources -- only two new contracts have been announced by the team thus far -- and remain interested in Bly. Washington attempted to get him from Detroit before he was traded to the Broncos.

The Commanders offered Bly a lucrative contract extension during trade talks, numerous NFL sources said, while Denver has been unwilling to compensate him beyond the $4.2 million base salary he has for 2007.

Bly has told numerous past and present teammates of his desire to play for Washington, and several NFL sources believe the Broncos are willing to part with him. Denver was scheduled to have free agent cornerback David Macklin visit yesterday.

The Broncos and Commanders have been discussing trade possibilities since before the combine last month, according to sources with knowledge of the situation, with Denver coveting Washington's sixth overall pick and the Commanders looking to trade down and reacquire a second- and third- round pick, which were dealt away (the Broncos have the Commanders' third-round selection from the T.J. Duckett trade).

Denver tried to get running back Ladell Betts in the deal, according to sources, but Coach Joe Gibbs has been intent on pairing Betts and Clinton Portis in the backfield next season.

The Commanders were offering veteran cornerback Shawn Springs for Bly, but those talks stalled when Washington asked for additional cap relief to offset Spring's $7.5 million cap charge and Denver declined, sources said. Last month the Broncos made a proposal involving middle linebacker Al Wilson, their first-round pick (21st overall), a third-round pick and perhaps a second-round pick to land Washington's sixth-overall pick, according to a source, but the Commanders preferred Fletcher, who was their prime objective in free agency.

Should Denver be willing to essentially replace Wilson with Bly in trade talks, the potential for a deal could be high. Also, the Broncos could still make a play for Springs, whom Washington asked to take a $2 million pay cut, or the Commanders could attempt to trade Springs for draft picks if they acquired Bly.

Given Washington's cap standing, and the fact the team could create an addition $4 million in space by cutting injured kicker John Hall and reserve defensive lineman Renaldo Wynn, absorbing Spring's cap charge would not be prohibitive.

The Commanders began creating cap room by restructuring tackle Jon Jansen's deal last month, giving him a $10 million signing bonus but slashing his 2007 base salary. Backup quarterback Mark Brunell also agreed to a very cap-friendly new contract, with no guaranteed money. Over the weekend the club also announced the extension of guard Randy Thomas's contract, and, sources said, in the process lowered his 2007 cap charge from $5.5 million to $3.3 million. Thomas's deal is nearly identical to Jansen's, according to a source with knowledge of the contract, including a $10 million bonus. Thomas, whose previous contract was voidable after 2007, thus making him eligible for unrestricted free agency next year, is now signed through 2011, the source said"

They offered a better played and their 1st,2nd, and third. I honestly cant believe we turned down a dela for al wilson, their first,2nd, and 3rd for our 6th
 

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Do Skins fans comprehend what "and/or" means? It isn't the same thing as "and".

I doubt Denver does the deal for their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and "change". No way. Unless they are irrationally in love with someone they think will be there at #6.
 

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theogt;1410869 said:
Oh good, being a fool, I thought perhaps the other poster actually knew what he was talking about.
it actually has some backing to it. They offered that and al wilson for our sixth. So, now they are interested in a lesser player, so you would think that the price would still be the same
 

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Chocolate Lab;1410872 said:
Do Skins fans comprehend what "and/or" means? It isn't the same thing as "and".

I doubt Denver does the deal for their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and "change". No way. Unless they are irrationally in love with someone they think will be there at #6.

look at the draft point system, the points add up,

(1) WSH #6 - 1600

(1) DEN #21 - 800
(2) DEN #56 - 340
(3) DEN #70 - 240 (TJ Duckett trade)
We will enter Bly in as a third round value, considering that is what the lions were asking for -220

those numbers competly add up...
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1410873 said:
it actually has some backing to it. They offered that and al wilson for our sixth. So, now they are interested in a lesser player, so you would think that the price would still be the same
So basically there was an offer involving a totally different set of players and the other poster assumed that somehow the terms of the previous trade that was nixed would end up being the terms of this new trade?

Gotcha. How foolish of me not to see such obvious writing on the wall.
 

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apickmans;1410830 said:
You saying that Bly "isnt that good" means that hes somewhat good, and somewhat good is better than being "average" dont ya think?

busted logic my friend how old are you?
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1410873 said:
it actually has some backing to it. They offered that and al wilson for our sixth. So, now they are interested in a lesser player, so you would think that the price would still be the same

Wait wait Al wilson better than Dre Bly?? Is this what you mean?
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1410874 said:
look at the draft point system, the points add up,

(1) WSH #6 - 1600

(1) DEN #21 - 800
(2) DEN #56 - 340
(3) DEN #70 - 240 (TJ Duckett trade)
We will enter Bly in as a third round value, considering that is what the lions were asking for -220

those numbers competly add up...

What do you think Springs is worth?
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1410874 said:
look at the draft point system, the points add up,

(1) WSH #6 - 1600

(1) DEN #21 - 800
(2) DEN #56 - 340
(3) DEN #70 - 240 (TJ Duckett trade)
We will enter Bly in as a third round value, considering that is what the lions were asking for -220

those numbers competly add up...

not a chance Bly is third round value, second or late first.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1410870 said:
The Commanders began creating cap room by restructuring tackle Jon Jansen's deal last month, giving him a $10 million signing bonus but slashing his 2007 base salary. Backup quarterback Mark Brunell also agreed to a very cap-friendly new contract, with no guaranteed money. Over the weekend the club also announced the extension of guard Randy Thomas's contract, and, sources said, in the process lowered his 2007 cap charge from $5.5 million to $3.3 million. Thomas's deal is nearly identical to Jansen's, according to a source with knowledge of the contract, including a $10 million bonus. Thomas, whose previous contract was voidable after 2007, thus making him eligible for unrestricted free agency next year, is now signed through 2011, the source said"


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J.Jones21;1410881 said:
not a chance Bly is third round value, second or late first.

didnt the Chiefs give up a 2nd rounder for Patrick Surtain? Just wondering?
 

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Bly
1st Round Pick
2nd Round Pick
3rd Round Pick

for

1st Round Pick

This would be a great deal for the Skins! *** are you talking about?
 

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Chocolate Lab;1410880 said:
What do you think Springs is worth?

honestly, I have no clue. I dont know how many teams are interested in an aging, injury plagued cornerback these days...
 

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MossBurner;1410888 said:
Bly
1st Round Pick (21)
2nd Round Pick

for

1st Round Pick (6)

This would be a great deal for the Skins! *** are you talking about?

dont think its enough. Would want a 3rd rounder as well.
 

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apickmans;1410892 said:
dont think its enough. Would want a 3rd rounder as well.

I forgot the 3rd rounder originally...

LMAO out this poster for mocking this deal!
 

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MossBurner;1410888 said:
Bly
1st Round Pick (21)
2nd Round Pick

for

1st Round Pick (6)

This would be a great deal for the Skins! *** are you talking about?

Money...


:money:


and how not to use it for bum players, again!

What are you talking about?


:confused:

Any other questions?
 

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5Stars;1410895 said:
Money...


:money:


and how not to use it for bum players, again!

What are you talking about?


:confused:

Any other questions?

Yeah, the Skins have sucked recently in the draft! They may not have had many picks but they have used them well. Sean Taylor, Chris Cooley, Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, Rocky McIntosh, Kedric Golston.
 

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MossBurner;1410900 said:
Yeah, the Skins have sucked recently in the draft! They may not have had many picks but they have used them well. Sean Taylor, Chris Cooley, Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, Rocky McIntosh, Kedric Golston.


Studs! Six of them...

I'm impressed!


:laugh2: Thanks for the info...
 
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