LMAO @ Commanders.

[Hostile]

Tough to listen to a team lacking a playoff win in 11 years and signing guys like Terrel Owens, or trading 2 first round draft picks for Joey Galloway. But we won't go there. Now back to the relevant discussion before your uneccessary tangent

How about you saunter into the real world for a minute?

I didn't sign TO. I had nothing to do with the team missing the playoffs for several years and then not winning when they get there.

I do know smart football however. You want proof? Look back at my posts with your fans the last 4 years about the roster moves you were making and how it was going to work out. I'll stand on the fact that I have been right every single time and you guys have been wrong. Don't talk the talk son, walk the walk.

You want to pay attention you might learn something. You want to play your franchise is better than ours, then buckle up because I guarantee you you're not in my league in the smack department son.

If you mean by holding cards, like in Denver's case, they don't have to make the trade. They can keep Bly and lose him to Washington next year during FA and get nothing out of him. They can also miss out on the high impact DE or RB they want

I'd take the time to explain the analogy of "holding the cards" but why bother.

Now, as I have stated several times, the Commanders should be patient. There is no rush to do this until the Commanders are on the clock during the NFL draft. Springs is going nowhere, neither is Bly

No. That was my opinion to which you replied "oh really?" Now you want to adopt my point as your own?

And as I have stated, I am not looking for high picks in this draft. I am looking for quantity.

Yeah I read that. It's silly.

The perfect storm has been brewed for a trade. Denver is looking to move up. Washington down. Denver has a player who has local ties to the Virginia area. Washington has a player who wishes to move closer to his father in Texas.

Blah blah blah.

It only makes too much sense. But in Hostile's world, damn'd if you do and damn'd if you don't.

My turn to say oh really? Correct me if I'm wrong but I said over and over now that I doubt this trade happens. In other words, I am bashing an idea in an article not you or your Skins. Maybe Mr. La Confora has a good inside tip here. If he does, I think it's a bad move. I have explained why in very basic terms. I can't dumb it down any more. If you still don't get it, oh well.

Now move the goalposts back another 10 yards please.

I knew it. You're a kicker.

 

[smarta5150]

I don't think anyone here is going to disagree that the Galloway trade was stupid.

What about that Walker trade?

That was a pretty good one, I wonder why the Skin fans didn't mention that.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The Washington Post's Commanders blog believes a Dre Bly deal to Washington is still in play, and it could involve the team's No. 6 overall pick.

Denver has destroyed Washington in a few previous trades. In this scenario, Denver would send Bly, their first-round pick, a mid-round pick and change for the No. 6 overall pick. Shawn Springs would then be moved from Washington. It appears the two sides will continue to talk. Mar. 6 - 6:21 pm et


I wonder why the skins want bly soooo bad??? but to give up the #6 pick?...Bly aint THATTTT good..:laugh2:

This must be an error.... everyone knows the skins dont have ANY draft picks until 2010

 

[Beast_from_East]

The Washington Post's Commanders blog believes a Dre Bly deal to Washington is still in play, and it could involve the team's No. 6 overall pick.

Denver has destroyed Washington in a few previous trades. In this scenario, Denver would send Bly, their first-round pick, a mid-round pick and change for the No. 6 overall pick. Shawn Springs would then be moved from Washington. It appears the two sides will continue to talk. Mar. 6 - 6:21 pm et


I wonder why the skins want bly soooo bad??? but to give up the #6 pick?...Bly aint THATTTT good..:laugh2:

They are going to trade the 6th overall for freaking Bly............dumb, very dumb...........only the Skins would do something as ******** as this......:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

 

[ajk23az]

They are going to trade the 6th overall for freaking Bly............dumb, very dumb...........only the Skins would do something as ******** as this......:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

the skins do get denvers 1st rounder (21st) and denvers 3rd rounder also. But still giving up the chance to draft adams or branch to get an older CB in bly?

 

[Beast_from_East]

Just to clear this up (because the post was a little less than clear), the proposed trade would be:

Washington gets:

1. Dre Bly.
2. Denver's 1st round pick (#21).
3. A "midround" pick from Denver.
4. Some "change."

Denver gets:

1. Shawn Springs
2. Washington's 1st round pick (#6).

Somebody call 911, rape in progress

:laugh2: :laugh1:

 

[DLK150]

Bly not upset with trade to Broncos

By Associated Press
March 7, 2007

The agent for cornerback Dre’ Bly on Wednesday threw a bucket of cold water on persistent speculation that the cornerback is unhappy with last week’s trade that brought the two-time Pro Bowl player to Denver.

"I’ve had nothing but positive dialogue with the Broncos," McGuire said. "There hasn’t been one negative element in play."

Bly, part of a three-player, two-draft pick trade following four seasons with the Detroit Lions, reportedly was angling for a deal to join the Washington Commanders on the heels of that previous deal.

Reports have centered on the proximity of Bly’s hometown to the D.C. area and the fact talks had begun on a long-term contract with the Commanders prior to Denver jumping into the fray as reasons for his alleged displeasure.

But Bly has yet to come out publicly against the deal. And last week, Champ Bailey – who figures to pair with Bly to form one of the NFL’s top cornerback tandems – said in his talks with his new teammate both before and after the Broncos deal that Bly was excited about his new situation.

McGuire seconded that notion.

"Obviously he’s very excited to be there and has not expressed anything else," he said.

As for all the rumors regarding Bly’s mindset, McGuire to date had opted to say nothing since it was out of his control.

"I’m quite finished with this," he added.

Bly is expected to be in town near the start of the April 2 off-season conditioning program.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_5402016,00.html

 

[SkinsandTerps]

^^^

I would enjoy some draft speculation, but at the same time, I would rather the Commanders move down 5 spots or so, and pick up a second rounder and be done with it. Draft picks certainly arent a sure thing. No matter where you make the pick.

 

[jobberone]

No. Those combo of picks and Bly= the 6th overall pick (in terms of points)

Springs could be a completely seperate deal. In fact, the Commanders do not need to deal Springs at all

Denver has one first (21), one second (56), two thirds (70 and 86), one sixth (161), and one seventh (214) pick. The 70 is from Washington. Denver has no fourth and no fifth.

Washington has one first (6), one fifth (133), one sixth (164), and one seventh (197). You don't have a second, third or fourth. You gave up the 37, 70 and 100 via trades.

If they give you the 21, 56 and 86 then they would only have a first round (6), third (70), sixth (161), and seventh (214). You'd then have the 21, 56, 86, 133, 164, and 197. That's a pick in rds 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7. You'd be gaining two picks and giving yourself a decent draft. But at the expense of giving up the sixth pick.

But that's if Denver is offering a second and a third which I doubt. At least this year. I can see them gving you a third this year and a second next year perhaps but not both this year. It may even be just a second or a third as rumored. That appears more likely to me.

The draft is just too important. You cannot try to field a contender year in and out while having to sign multiple FAs yearly at the going rate. You cannot give away four picks a year. It's so much more practical to pay draftees than FAs.

That trade gives Washington some draft picks but takes away a nice Denver draft and makes it only ok. I don't think Denver would gut itself even to garner a top six pick. I think Washington would love this trade but I don't see it going down like you want.

But I've been known to be wrong.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

How about you saunter into the real world for a minute?

I didn't sign TO. I had nothing to do with the team missing the playoffs for several years and then not winning when they get there.

Likewise neither did I. Yet you are trying to bash me? Come on sir, step it up

I do know smart football however. You want proof? Look back at my posts with your fans the last 4 years about the roster moves you were making and how it was going to work out. I'll stand on the fact that I have been right every single time and you guys have been wrong. Don't talk the talk son, walk the walk.

Yea. Thats nice, you have been right on every single deal. Of course this was the same place that thought giving Randy Thomas at 7 million bonus was a bad deal. Or trading Coles for Moss was a bad deal. Or bringing in Troy Vincent

You win some, you lose some. If you can't admit that with a duly noted, there is no reason to even discuss this with you, kind sir

You want to pay attention you might learn something. You want to play your franchise is better than ours, then buckle up because I guarantee you you're not in my league in the smack department son.

And this has to do with what exactly? Please sir, stay on topic

I'd take the time to explain the analogy of "holding the cards" but why bother.

Its clear you don't play cards enough. Too much has been leaked the past few days about the fact Bly thought he was going to Washington and had a deal in place. He is an FA next year. If Denver wants to keep him this year, then lose him next year in FA to Washington, thats their problem. I have no problems sticking with the 6th pick

No. That was my opinion to which you replied "oh really?" Now you want to adopt my point as your own?

Please don't be intellectually lazy, and go back and read my posts on this subject. I have stated that I want the Commanders to hold out as long as possible. There is no reason to rush. So therefore we agree, and you are just trying to stir the pot for no reason. Very nice sir.

My turn to say oh really? Correct me if I'm wrong but I said over and over now that I doubt this trade happens. In other words, I am bashing an idea in an article not you or your Skins. Maybe Mr. La Confora has a good inside tip here. If he does, I think it's a bad move. I have explained why in very basic terms. I can't dumb it down any more. If you still don't get it, oh well.

And I have explained in even more basic terms why this is a good move. For all your "I told you so's" one thing you seem to fail to grasp is having more picks is a good thing. You get flexibility, you can make more moves. If you fail to grasp that concept, well I can't help you there sir.

Now if you are arguing that you would NEVER trade your 6th overall pick for possibly 4 picks, or 3 picks and a starter, well then we are simply going to have to agree to disagree sir. Thats the idea of the trade, and very few teams have the ammo that Denver does to make this kind of move. If you are just saying it to stir the pot with an opposing fan, please let me know, and I can simply ignore your posts as well, sir

I knew it. You're a kicker.

Na, played WR in HS. Was a soccer goalie. No kicker here

 

[streetcredit]

Are the skins this stupid?..why trade for a guy that wants a new contract?...he's going to ask for a fortune. They might as well look for players in FA and save their pick. They have so many holes that they don't need to specifically target a corner.

 

[MossBurner]

the skins suck and their fans are the dumbest on Earth

I find it funny that you guys are trying to brag about being 9 mil under the cap, and say it's alot of money, your roster still freakin sucks

This is the same roster, than when healthy, won 11 games two seasons ago. It is also the same roster that has beaten the Cowboys 3 out of the last 4 times. Last year sucked, unpredictably. This year, I hope, will be different. But who knows in this league...anything can happen. Watch the Colts win 6 games next year.

 

[superpunk]

Bias, and annoying "sir" posts aside this would be a fantastic trade for the Skins, if it would go down like this. For once, they'd be getting the better of the donkeys. They need alot of help, and they're not going to get what they need from Alan Branch, Gaines Adams, or whoever people see them taking there.

More importantly, it would represent a change in philosophy, from the ******** way they have been doing things (which many of the Skins fans in this thread FULLY endorsed - stupidly) and a move towards what the teams who have actually been seeing a measure of success are doing with the draft. This trade, taking into account what Denver gave up to get Bly, makes no sense for the Donkeys. I can't see it happening. I also hope it doesn't, because that would suggest the Commanders are capable of learning, and that's been soemthing we haven't had to worry about for years. They do that, all of a sudden their fans might learn, too - which would make them less annoying, I suppose - but I kind of like their current position relative to us.

 

[riggo]

somebody woke up on the wrong side of the rock.

i think its safe to say lots of teams- even the skins and (sssshhhhh!!!!!!) the boys- have made both bad moves and good moves in FA at times.

'son'. lol. i think i just threw up in my coffee.

 

[Hostile]

Likewise neither did I. Yet you are trying to bash me? Come on sir, step it up

No, I wasn't trying to bash you. All I said was Washington should not make that move. You threw out the playoffs in the last 11 years crap. I was being civil. The closest I came to not being civil was mentioning that you ought to start listening to us instead of simply taking the opposite view every time.

Yea. Thats nice, you have been right on every single deal. Of course this was the same place that thought giving Randy Thomas at 7 million bonus was a bad deal. Or trading Coles for Moss was a bad deal. Or bringing in Troy Vincent

First of all I am always honest, so I'm going to be honest right now. I forgot about the Moss - Coles trade and I was wrong about that. Moss has been a good addition for the Skins. Good call.

I liked the Randy Thomas acquistion and I really liked the Troy Vincent addition. You can check with my friend at work, James, if you think I am lying on this. I will say that the one thing with the Vincent signing that had me laughing was that I had mocked the Skins for Archuleta. Had you done better there, Vincent wouldn't have even been necessary.

You win some, you lose some. If you can't admit that with a duly noted, there is no reason to even discuss this with you, kind sir

I believe I just did.

And this has to do with what exactly? Please sir, stay on topic

You got off topic with the who signed TO, who has won a playoff game recently crap. I had no intention of turning this into a pissing match with you over the teams we root for. That was your contribution.

I simply brought up the idea that making a trade NOW was not a good deal. You challenged me on that.

Its clear you don't play cards enough. Too much has been leaked the past few days about the fact Bly thought he was going to Washington and had a deal in place. He is an FA next year. If Denver wants to keep him this year, then lose him next year in FA to Washington, thats their problem. I have no problems sticking with the 6th pick

I play enough to know that no matter what hand you are holding minus a Royal Flush that the other guy might actually have a better hand.

Pssst...Dre Bly is not the equivalent of a football Royal Flush.

Please don't be intellectually lazy, and go back and read my posts on this subject. I have stated that I want the Commanders to hold out as long as possible. There is no reason to rush. So therefore we agree, and you are just trying to stir the pot for no reason. Very nice sir.

You're full of crap. I didn't jump in the conversations you were having with anyone else. I didn't post a bunch of Skins suck crap. I didn't even read the pissing match that was going on. I didn't respond to you or anyone else. I offered my own thought of the proposed trade.

I simply said I don't think this move, as described right now, is a good deal. I then qualified that by saying it is "too soon," and I mentioned that if the Draft falls right you could have teams in a bidding war for the #6 pick. If you can't recognize that, and understand that it isn't stirring the pot then you're full of crap.

And I have explained in even more basic terms why this is a good move. For all your "I told you so's" one thing you seem to fail to grasp is having more picks is a good thing. You get flexibility, you can make more moves. If you fail to grasp that concept, well I can't help you there sir.

You're right, you can't help me there because you are wrong. Making this move now, removes the chance of you getting the best possible deal for the #6 pick. Yeah, you add draft picks. Maybe one more than if you held out.

Now if you are arguing that you would NEVER trade your 6th overall pick for possibly 4 picks, or 3 picks and a starter, well then we are simply going to have to agree to disagree sir. Thats the idea of the trade, and very few teams have the ammo that Denver does to make this kind of move. If you are just saying it to stir the pot with an opposing fan, please let me know, and I can simply ignore your posts as well, sir

Dude, did I not say what if Brady Quinn is there and teams want to get in front of Minnesota for a QB? Are you even paying attention?

Did I not point out that you could get a higher pick in the 1st round and higher picks in other rounds than Denver can offer?

So, then it all boils down to Dre Bly as the clincher. Sorry, I don't see a Dre Bly as the deal maker. The gotta have player that makes this deal a must do. He's okay. I like him. I like Springs too for that matter.

Na, played WR in HS. Was a soccer goalie. No kicker here

Yuck.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I think the deal is pretty fair. They're trading down from pick #6 to #21 and giving up Shawn Springs for Bly, a midround pick, and whatever "change" means.

It all depends on if you think Bly is a better option than Springs.

I think Bly is a inconsistent player. There is no way a 4th pick, Bly, and the 21st overall pick is worth Springs and the #6 overall pick. The #6 pick is worth 1,600 points. The 21st pick is worth half that. The 100th pick in the draft (4th pick of the 4th round) is worth 100 points. That totals 900 points in picks plus Bly for Springs and the #6 overall pick. That would equate Bly who will be 30 years before the season starts as being worth the 26th pick in the draft. (worth 700 points) It's actually quite DUMB! You want a new CB? Draft Leon Hall, Darrelle Revis, Aaron Ross, or Daymeion Hughs. Hell take LeRon Landry at safety and converting him to CB would be better than taking Bly.

Actually, I take that back. Go Washington! Make that deal!!!! :laugh2:

 

[1fisher]

Somebody is mad...somebody is frustrated....



:nana: Son, hell, man, kid...



:laugh2:

 

[1fisher]

^^^

I would enjoy some draft speculation, but at the same time, I would rather the Commanders move down 5 spots or so, and pick up a second rounder and be done with it. Draft picks certainly arent a sure thing. No matter where you make the pick.

And neither are high priced free agents!:laugh2:

 

[Typhus]

Likewise neither did I. Yet you are trying to bash me? Come on sir, step it up



Yea. Thats nice, you have been right on every single deal. Of course this was the same place that thought giving Randy Thomas at 7 million bonus was a bad deal. Or trading Coles for Moss was a bad deal. Or bringing in Troy Vincent

You win some, you lose some. If you can't admit that with a duly noted, there is no reason to even discuss this with you, kind sir



And this has to do with what exactly? Please sir, stay on topic


Its clear you don't play cards enough. Too much has been leaked the past few days about the fact Bly thought he was going to Washington and had a deal in place. He is an FA next year. If Denver wants to keep him this year, then lose him next year in FA to Washington, thats their problem. I have no problems sticking with the 6th pick



Please don't be intellectually lazy, and go back and read my posts on this subject. I have stated that I want the Commanders to hold out as long as possible. There is no reason to rush. So therefore we agree, and you are just trying to stir the pot for no reason. Very nice sir.





And I have explained in even more basic terms why this is a good move. For all your "I told you so's" one thing you seem to fail to grasp is having more picks is a good thing. You get flexibility, you can make more moves. If you fail to grasp that concept, well I can't help you there sir.

Now if you are arguing that you would NEVER trade your 6th overall pick for possibly 4 picks, or 3 picks and a starter, well then we are simply going to have to agree to disagree sir. Thats the idea of the trade, and very few teams have the ammo that Denver does to make this kind of move. If you are just saying it to stir the pot with an opposing fan, please let me know, and I can simply ignore your posts as well, sir



Na, played WR in HS. Was a soccer goalie. No kicker here

Ha..... calling Hos out is like waking a sleeping bear,,, better polish up that kevlar suit.... lol

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Please aim for the Urinal during the pissing matches​