Logic Rules-Last 10 Super Bowl winning quarterbacks

[CTcowboy203]

Stop the run. Run the ball. Nothing guaranteed but it helps.

 

[nobody]

I'm not going to argue your point for it's a good point. But Dak was bad at times this season and at times he was great. You could say this about the whole team and coaching. Problem is how can we win moving forward. You guys want to get rid of Dak let's get rid of Ceedee and Micah also. That's going all in on a re-build. Tank-Martin. Any asset we can get top draft picks for. I'm all for this if we going to do this. But I think with a few moves we can get to a SB in 1 to 2 years with Dak. And if we don't? Total rebuild. Let's get it to 30 worthless years under Jerry then tear it down...We'd be near 100 million under the cap.

I see your point and respect your opinion, I just disagree that Dak is even capable of getting it done. I would love being wrong as it would mean a SB for the Cowboys. I'm just convinced I'm not wrong.

 

[IceStar-D7]

lol...Dak can have all the money he wants, and he can even learn how to swallow a sword by a circus clown, but if what you are saying is that Dak should make as much money as he can get, that is hands of greed.

Dak can have his money, but he probably will never ever be able to say he won a SB as a Dallas Cowboy and that should be his goal as the QB.

I saw an interview, you might have also, where Maholmes said that his next contract is not going to be about money because he said he already has enough to last life times for his kids and that what he wants is a legacy, winning SB's. And a Dak fan such as yourself wants Dak to be paid more than Maholmes without winning a nothing. That is not a team player.

LOL.. that's America. Why aren't you putting these same shackles on Jerry who has 16 billion dollars compared to 60 million. It was Jerry who got rid of the NFL salary cap. And why????? So they could steal from the players so the billionaire owners could have more billions. So if it is greed. Everyone is greedy. Thus why do you pick Dak out to be the one greedy???? That asian basedball player is the first billionaire baseball player. Ask him to take a paycut? As far as Mahomes goes he's getting every penny. Kansas GM was just smart enough to stretch it out. Jerry could do the same........Mahomes is making a killing-way more than Dak in-ENDORSEMENTS..... Probably team outside of football enabled endorsements. So, if you think Mahomes is saying that in real time. Don't believer it...Mahomes is making way more than Dak......easy to make this type of decision....

 

[5Stars]

I see your point and respect your opinion, I just disagree that Dak is even capable of getting it done. I would love being wrong as it would mean a SB for the Cowboys. I'm just convinced I'm not wrong.

It's a young man's game and Dak is getting up there where you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

It's like you can lead a horse to water, but you just cannot make it swim.

 

[5Stars]

LOL.. that's America. Why aren't you putting these same shackles on Jerry who has 16 billion dollars compared to 60 million. It was Jerry who got rid of the NFL salary cap. And why????? So they could steal from the players so the billionaire owners could have more billions. So if it is greed. Everyone is greedy. Thus why do you pick Dak out to be the one greedy???? That asian basedball player is the first billionaire baseball player. Ask him to take a paycut? As far as Mahomes goes he's getting every penny. Kansas GM was just smart enough to stretch it out. Jerry could do the same........Mahomes is making a killing-way more than Dak in-ENDORSEMENTS..... Probably team outside of football enabled endorsements. So, if you think Mahomes is saying that in real time. Don't believer it...

Word salad...triggered...
time for some guitar.
Think I'll make a blues song about Dak.

 

[IceStar-D7]

I see your point and respect your opinion, I just disagree that Dak is even capable of getting it done. I would love being wrong as it would mean a SB for the Cowboys. I'm just convinced I'm not wrong.

I respect your opinion also. I hope you're wrong and I'm right.... I want that trophey...Well... at least for the team

 

[Canada180]

!. Wilson...... 2 year
2.Brady.......2 years
3.Manning.......nine years
4.Brady
5.Foles......1 year wonder
6.Brady
7.Mahomes....2 years
8.Brady
9.Stafford........12 years
10.Mahomes....
The quarterbacks that won early had a great defense. The rest of them were just Phenoms. So by any measure possible. Dak is right where he needs to be . He's not phenomenal. He doesn't have a dominate defense....So? Why then? Are some so down on his career thus far??? Makes no sense. Here in black and white you see no other quarterbacks has done crap. That includes Jackson. Allen...Herbert....Burrow......And if Purdy wins????? Great defense.....Defense again So I tell you guys. You want to win a Super Bowl get Dak a defense. Not a fake one. A real one. Start with a dominate defensive tackle. Make Micah a real MLB... get Queens from Baltimore. I think Overshown will be my third starter but I'm still drafting another linebacker. Get the defensive lineman from Kansas City. Draft or free agent another defensive end . Draft or trade for one "great" safety. Get a guy who knows how to stop and defend motion as your DC. Not rocket science here. We do all this, and Dak fails then so be it.... But let's cover the defensive bases first-then worry about, Dak......Why start all over when you haven't tried what works. Even Micah defended Dak and said what the hell ya'll think Dak is "Superman"???? We gave up 38 points. No quarterback wins that game'. And Dak's time with Garrett What quarterback would win under him? So, I go with the last 3 seasons. 12-5...no playoff wins. No Super Bowl. 3 years isn't a long-time guys. You suffered with Jerry for 25 years.... With hardly any 12-5 seasons. If they go all in on defense-Super Bowl. So, try it, Jerry!!! What the hell do you have to lose?????? It's something you haven't tried in 28 years.

I'd rather have a DOMINANT DT.

 

[IceStar-D7]

You guys' Rock!! Whether you agree or don't agree....We all just want to win!!!!!! Good none name calling debates......appreciated...

 

[Blitzen]

!. Wilson...... 2 year
2.Brady.......2 years
3.Manning.......nine years
4.Brady
5.Foles......1 year wonder
6.Brady
7.Mahomes....2 years
8.Brady
9.Stafford........12 years
10.Mahomes....
The quarterbacks that won early had a great defense. The rest of them were just Phenoms. So by any measure possible. Dak is right where he needs to be . He's not phenomenal. He doesn't have a dominate defense....So? Why then? Are some so down on his career thus far??? Makes no sense. Here in black and white you see no other quarterbacks has done crap. That includes Jackson. Allen...Herbert....Burrow......And if Purdy wins????? Great defense.....Defense again So I tell you guys. You want to win a Super Bowl get Dak a defense. Not a fake one. A real one. Start with a dominate defensive tackle. Make Micah a real MLB... get Queens from Baltimore. I think Overshown will be my third starter but I'm still drafting another linebacker. Get the defensive lineman from Kansas City. Draft or free agent another defensive end . Draft or trade for one "great" safety. Get a guy who knows how to stop and defend motion as your DC. Not rocket science here. We do all this, and Dak fails then so be it.... But let's cover the defensive bases first-then worry about, Dak......Why start all over when you haven't tried what works. Even Micah defended Dak and said what the hell ya'll think Dak is "Superman"???? We gave up 38 points. No quarterback wins that game'. And Dak's time with Garrett What quarterback would win under him? So, I go with the last 3 seasons. 12-5...no playoff wins. No Super Bowl. 3 years isn't a long-time guys. You suffered with Jerry for 25 years.... With hardly any 12-5 seasons. If they go all in on defense-Super Bowl. So, try it, Jerry!!! What the hell do you have to lose?????? It's something you haven't tried in 28 years.

They do not need Dak too much if they build this impenetrable defense and amazing run game. The defense gave up 12 points to SF last year in the playoffs (6 points were given to SF courtesy of Dak). This from SF averaging 31.45 points once McCaffrey was starting for the team.

If only they could have rushed for 200-300 yards on the road against the best defense in the league. Then maybe the franchise QB could have helped generate more than 12 points on offense. You can die on the hill-it’s a ridiculous stance. Dak has proven what a team will get from him in the playoffs to start games. Let’s cheer for an extension to this saga.

 

[Blitzen]

I'm surprised the NFL owners haven't got together and set some kind of price range for "ok" Quarterbacks

They priced Running backs out, I can't see why the owners couldn't do the same here.

All it takes is 1 owner with guts to say "yeah I'll pay you 60$M when you prove to me you can at least make it to a SB"

How about to a conference championship game within the first 6 years in the league? Just that at least?

 

[Blitzen]

Lol sure kid...Im for drafting a qb..im not sold on the GM doing it..Ive seen his work..Draft away but this list pretty much shows that its Mahomes or Brady..not Herbert, Lawrence, Hurts, and so on and so on..will se if Purdy can break the chain but if he spots Mahomes 17 points I wouldn't hold my breathe...it will also debunk your "Its gotta be a top pick" kinda like Brady and Mahomes have..but carry on..

Most of the best QB’s come in the first round, but there are exceptions to the rule. Got to take risks if the ceiling of a player is the divisional round. Dak has been given ample time to show his ability. It’s past time to move on-though Jerry is about to double down to general applause from some fans.

 

[BoysForLife]

You're not understanding me. Dak wants to take a cut-I'm all for it. I'm saying he won't. Not because he's greedy but because if he did that * puts pressure on other guys to do it also. And that would be messing with their money. No quarterback or any player would do this. Well. Brady did. Brady had a wife or "HAD" a wife at home making more than him.

A lot of false narratives in this argument

You say that Dak can't sign for less than "market value" because it would "put pressure on other guys to do the same" but then one sentence later you acknowledge that Brady did it. So forgive the obvious question but if the unquestioned GOAT took less than he could have gotten, how did "market value" continue to rise for others? And if Brady taking less than he can get didn't affect others ability to "get theirs" then how is a mid tier QB like Dak going to drive the market down? Makes no sense. If anyone could have set the market it would have been TB12. Yet he took a hometown discount and everyone else still made bank. It's a false narrative and another bogus excuse. Nothing more

Also this Dak advanced narrative that TB12 was some kept man who could "afford" to take less because his wife made bank is ridiculous. TB 12 made WAY more off the field than he did on it. Just like all famous athletes these days. Dak included.

Dak is cashing in off the field way more than he is for his game checks. Especially because he's the QB of the Dallas cowboys. And this is where Jerry needs to play a little poker and call his bluff.

Suppose Dak goes and signs for $60 million in Washington or some other such franchise. Instead of taking $30-40 million in Dallas. He'll be taking a pay cut in the big picture and he knows it. Because being QB1 in Dallas affords a lot of endorsement money that he isn't getting most other places. He knows this

And because of that he doesn't hold all the cards despite the popular narrative that says otherwise

They need to stare him down and dare him to test the waters. And if he blinks, hide strap his butt to a pine rail and send him up the Monon line.

Good riddance. Greed and ego combined with marginal talent are dispensable. Therefore Dak is dispensable

 

[Flamma]

I respect your opinion also. I hope you're wrong and I'm right.... I want that trophey...Well... at least for the team

Throw in a good run game, and I think you're right. There's no better example than 2013. Russel Wilson wasn't that good then. Hell, the 49ers would have beaten Denver too. Because of the D. Getting a D like that is problematic.

 

[dupree89]

It's a young man's game and Dak is getting up there where you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

It's like you can lead a horse to water, but you just cannot make it swim.

correct. we've spent how many years with Romo and Dak? Meanwhile, the niners are firing QBs left and right and are in the Super Bowl.

 

[IceStar-D7]

correct. we've spent how many years with Romo and Dak? Meanwhile, the niners are firing QBs left and right and are in the Super Bowl.

Niners are in the Super Bowl due mainly to their defense and one receiver. Purdy loses Deebo he looks below average. Luck as always play into the games. Greenbay drops Dak pick 7 maybe that changes the game. Packers dropped two int's going the other way versus Purdy. They make those plays Purday is at home with Niner fans complaining how bad he sucks.

 

[dupree89]

Niners are in the Super Bowl due mainly to their defense and one receiver. Purdy loses Deebo he looks below average. Luck as always play into the games. Greenbay drops Dak pick 7 maybe that changes the game. Packers dropped two int's going the other way versus Purdy. They make those plays Purday is at home with Niner fans complaining how bad he sucks.

yep, but none of it happened. Purdy is where Dak probably will never be. Eli Manning got lucky with a 2 throws and got 2 rings and he's going to the HOF.

I like the saying...dont tell me about the pain, just show me the baby. I don't care about misfortunes, get a ring.

 

[Strol]

49ers can afford a good defense because their QB makes no money.

 

[IceStar-D7]

A lot of false narratives in this argument

You say that Dak can't sign for less than "market value" because it would "put pressure on other guys to do the same" but then one sentence later you acknowledge that Brady did it. So forgive the obvious question but if the unquestioned GOAT took less than he could have gotten, how did "market value" continue to rise for others? And if Brady taking less than he can get didn't affect others ability to "get theirs" then how is a mid tier QB like Dak going to drive the market down? Makes no sense. If anyone could have set the market it would have been TB12. Yet he took a hometown discount and everyone else still made bank. It's a false narrative and another bogus excuse. Nothing more

Also this Dak advanced narrative that TB12 was some kept man who could "afford" to take less because his wife made bank is ridiculous. TB 12 made WAY more off the field than he did on it. Just like all famous athletes these days. Dak included.

Dak is cashing in off the field way more than he is for his game checks. Especially because he's the QB of the Dallas cowboys. And this is where Jerry needs to play a little poker and call his bluff.

Suppose Dak goes and signs for $60 million in Washington or some other such franchise. Instead of taking $30-40 million in Dallas. He'll be taking a pay cut in the big picture and he knows it. Because being QB1 in Dallas affords a lot of endorsement money that he isn't getting most other places. He knows this

And because of that he doesn't hold all the cards despite the popular narrative that says otherwise

They need to stare him down and dare him to test the waters. And if he blinks, hide strap his butt to a pine rail and send him up the Monon line.

Good riddance. Greed and ego combined with marginal talent are dispensable. Therefore Dak is dispensable

You better save this sermon for Micah also. You think he's going to take a pay cut CeeDee going to take a pay cut

 

[IceStar-D7]

49ers can afford a good defense because their QB makes no money.

Yep.. you're right. Jerry should of gone all in on defense during Dak's first contract. And that's the difference between Dallas and the Niners. They're GM knows football. Our's only know merchandise and ticket sells.

 

[nalam]

Dak hasn’t shown he can bring back the cowboys after 2 or more scores down early in the game against good teams and D is playing like crap. He goes into his own panic mode and starts making mistakes which compounds and just like that we are even behind.